Van Stolen… but how?

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Coley88

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2,950 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th November
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We had our van stolen in the week from a premier inn car park
In Doncaster.

They had others away too.

There was CCTV (not bothered). Window smashed and van gone within 30-seconds. Naively, I thought that stealing vans with without keys was a thing of the past.

How are they doing this??

Really frustrating as the van is worth peanuts, but we ordered it new as it was a bespoke build with a tail lift, only has 50k miles.

A new one will likely be the only option.


Racing Newt

1,235 posts

213 months

Saturday 30th November
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Coley88 said:
We had our van stolen in the week from a premier inn car park
In Doncaster.



Why would you do that?

Cats_pyjamas

1,616 posts

156 months

Saturday 30th November
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Likely via obd2 port.

I have an obd relocation loom in my van, it has a dummy located in the standard place, which provides power but no data transfer. IE it will waste their time and hopefully they'd foxtrot Oscar when they can't get the machine to connect after a while.


cptsideways

13,653 posts

260 months

Saturday 30th November
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Likely several stolen every week from there too!

martinbiz

3,381 posts

153 months

Saturday 30th November
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Racing Newt said:
Coley88 said:
We had our van stolen in the week from a premier inn car park
In Doncaster.



Why would you do that?
Why not, he's had it stolen, distnctive signing may help it get spotted

Cfnteabag

1,201 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th November
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Cats_pyjamas said:
Likely via obd2 port.

I have an obd relocation loom in my van, it has a dummy located in the standard place, which provides power but no data transfer. IE it will waste their time and hopefully they'd foxtrot Oscar when they can't get the machine to connect after a while.
I wish I knew how they managed to connect so quickly! The few of these that I look after for our fleet, half the time it won't let me connect because it needs wifi, or there is a security process. All I normally want to do is find out why the stupid things have gone into limp home mode or put the EML on!

Jack ketch

36 posts

86 months

Saturday 30th November
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Sorry, I cannot help with how they had the vans away so easily but how did they know your van and other were there? A mate booked into a Premier Inn under a group booking for a motorbike club. He was the first to arrive and during booking in (10 minutes) his bike was nicked. The scum obviously knew about the booking and were waiting, got it into the back of a van. The manager was a hero and allowed all the other bikes, about a dozen, to park in the ‘events room’. Mate got his bike back; someone saw said scum push a bike into a lockup and contacted the police.
Rick

Racing Newt

1,235 posts

213 months

Sunday 1st December
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martinbiz said:
Why not, he's had it stolen, distnctive signing may help it get spotted
Why did he have it stolen?

Hugo Stiglitz v2

355 posts

2 months

Sunday 1st December
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Isn't the OBD a weak spot on the (Fiat) Abarth595 as well? You need a plate/blocker on those (from memory).

Why would they steal it though? Who would it be attractive to?

charltjr

291 posts

17 months

Sunday 1st December
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Racing Newt said:
Why did he have it stolen?
Don’t be an arse, it’s not big or clever.

vaud

52,513 posts

163 months

Sunday 1st December
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Hugo Stiglitz v2 said:
Why would they steal it though? Who would it be attractive to?
Just for parts? When my cars were stolen they only found the parts in a chop shop in Birmingham…

CoolHands

19,516 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st December
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vaud said:
Hugo Stiglitz v2 said:
Why would they steal it though? Who would it be attractive to?
Just for parts? When my cars were stolen they only found the parts in a chop shop in Birmingham…
Maybe to used in another crime eg nicking motorbikes or transferring stolen diggers or whatever

Rough101

2,308 posts

83 months

Sunday 1st December
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Low floor, low mileage, high roof.

On a farm somewhere being converted to a horse box.

untakenname

5,057 posts

200 months

Sunday 1st December
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Not very helpful after the fact but maybe for the future or for others reading, a cheap battery isolator/kill switch with keyfob arming would likely have prevented this and costs around £30.


MustangGT

12,334 posts

288 months

Monday 2nd December
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untakenname said:
Not very helpful after the fact but maybe for the future or for others reading, a cheap battery isolator/kill switch with keyfob arming would likely have prevented this and costs around £30.

How many modern vehicles support the use of battery disarming as a regular feature, most have alarms that will activate on battery 'removal' as standard.

Durzel

12,480 posts

176 months

Monday 2nd December
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untakenname said:
Not very helpful after the fact but maybe for the future or for others reading, a cheap battery isolator/kill switch with keyfob arming would likely have prevented this and costs around £30.

If they can get into the car, they can get into the engine bay. Granted it would take them longer to faff about with removing this than it would just getting in and driving off, but no one is going to question someone looking like they're trying to fix a broken down van I'd have thought.

Fatboy

8,093 posts

280 months

Monday 2nd December
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Cats_pyjamas said:
Likely via obd2 port.

I have an obd relocation loom in my van, it has a dummy located in the standard place, which provides power but no data transfer. IE it will waste their time and hopefully they'd foxtrot Oscar when they can't get the machine to connect after a while.
Would be good if you could set it up for the dummy port to activate a hidden camera and/or call the police when someone tries to connect to the dummy port...

Or just waits for 10 seconds after connection and sends a couple of thousand volts through the dummy connector to fry their equipment...

Cats_pyjamas

1,616 posts

156 months

Monday 2nd December
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Fatboy said:
Cats_pyjamas said:
Likely via obd2 port.

I have an obd relocation loom in my van, it has a dummy located in the standard place, which provides power but no data transfer. IE it will waste their time and hopefully they'd foxtrot Oscar when they can't get the machine to connect after a while.
Would be good if you could set it up for the dummy port to activate a hidden camera and/or call the police when someone tries to connect to the dummy port...

Or just waits for 10 seconds after connection and sends a couple of thousand volts through the dummy connector to fry their equipment...
That would be great until I forget to tell my mot tester/mechanic and it causes them £££ worth of damage. smile.

surveyor

18,155 posts

192 months

Monday 2nd December
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Massive issue with Premier inn car park security and vans although they are normally broken into rather than stolen.

One of The Doncaster one has a particularly bad reputation

garypotter

1,733 posts

158 months

Wednesday
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sadly nealry all modern car security goes throguh the ECU plug in a device into the OBD and over ride 30 secionds later the van is started and driven away. I have seen Range Rover gone inless than 20 seconds recorded on a ring doorbel. but it is OK as the police want to catch motorists that are speeding in a 20 mph zone......