Where to report an obviously clocked car that's for sale?
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I went to look at an M3 today, allegedly it only had 60k miles on the clock but it very clearly had closer to 160k. I struggle to believe a car that had spent 60k miles on a track to be as much of a mess.
Is there somewhere you can report this sort of thing, I'd desperately like the authorities to take the car off sale before someone is badly ripped off.
The diff sounded like it was about to fall off, I've never encountered a gear box as beaten. I'd booked a test drive and then car had been runnimg to warm the engine up for my arrival, the heater was on and fan on full, presumably to draw water through.
Oddly as well it was plated as '04 but had a build date of August '02... is that normal?!
Is there somewhere you can report this sort of thing, I'd desperately like the authorities to take the car off sale before someone is badly ripped off.
The diff sounded like it was about to fall off, I've never encountered a gear box as beaten. I'd booked a test drive and then car had been runnimg to warm the engine up for my arrival, the heater was on and fan on full, presumably to draw water through.
Oddly as well it was plated as '04 but had a build date of August '02... is that normal?!
I’d like to know too, having found quite a few clocked Pumas (or around the clock, on the old 5 digit mileometers). The latest is a guy who’s refusing to give me the V5 doc ref number, because he was told it was unwise to.
If a potential buyer wants to check mileage, you can here: https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history-vehicle
If a potential buyer wants to check mileage, you can here: https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history-vehicle
I guess unless you can prove it has been clocked the police wouldnt be interested.
If it was a dealer you coud try trading standards.
If it has been clicked surely the mot check online would be throwing up a mileage discrepancy.
I have seen cars with 50,000 miles that checked out as ok, but looked like they had been inthe paris dakar rally, some people just dont look after cars.
If it was a dealer you coud try trading standards.
If it has been clicked surely the mot check online would be throwing up a mileage discrepancy.
I have seen cars with 50,000 miles that checked out as ok, but looked like they had been inthe paris dakar rally, some people just dont look after cars.
Deisel Weisel said:
I’d like to know too, having found quite a few clocked Pumas (or around the clock, on the old 5 digit mileometers). The latest is a guy who’s refusing to give me the V5 doc ref number, because he was told it was unwise to.
If a potential buyer wants to check mileage, you can here: https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history-vehicle
In the summer I was interested sale on eBay. The vendor gave me the V5C on the 5th time of asking. He used that excuse saying he'd been defrauded of some huge sum a car, and later on that he was out and away from the computer after I pointed out that the V5C and MoT certificate reference numbers were visible in one of the photos. If a potential buyer wants to check mileage, you can here: https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history-vehicle
Once I got the V5C ref. and could check the MoT history and it showed some mention of rust and then a subsequent advisory mentioning that underseal had been thickly applied everywhere. It got bid too high and I was happy that someone else got it.
Let someone else buy it. It's a govt. facilitated scheme, I am not sure what use a V5C ref. is to someone intent on criminal activity.
Trading Standards are the correct dept to report it to - example - http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10001090.Jailed_ca...
But you might find they dont have the resources to deal with it.
Also they can prosecute for misleading advertising/description but they cannot stop the person selling it.
But you might find they dont have the resources to deal with it.
Also they can prosecute for misleading advertising/description but they cannot stop the person selling it.
I had a neighbour years back who couldnt sell his e36 318is it had 130k on it, full service history, was immaculate, i happened to be car hunting and had been buying the paper copy auto traders, lo and behold there was a gap of an issue and there it was advertised now with 50k with no service history, sold immediately.
The point was that car easily passed for 50k, i could have challenged him, but he was a lot bigger than me, and i wasnt a goatee wearing company director.
The point was that car easily passed for 50k, i could have challenged him, but he was a lot bigger than me, and i wasnt a goatee wearing company director.
http://www.hiltopmotors.com/used-cars/bmw-m3-m3-2d...
Went to see a car myself today. Obviously completely unconnected to the car above. Was a f
king wreck, surprised it managed to drag itself out of the garage tbh.
Either way would be interested to know how to report clocked cars.
Went to see a car myself today. Obviously completely unconnected to the car above. Was a f
king wreck, surprised it managed to drag itself out of the garage tbh. Either way would be interested to know how to report clocked cars.
SpeedIsProgress said:
It was trade. If it was private I'd definitely be more caveat emptor but these guys were professional and should be screwing people over like they're clearly planning on doing.
So, you have no proof there is anything wrong with the car, or that it's been clocked, other than you personally think it might be, and you want to report it?How do you expect this to go?
Don't buy it, and don't lose any sleep over it.
SMcP114 said:
So, you have no proof there is anything wrong with the car, or that it's been clocked, other than you personally think it might be, and you want to report it?
How do you expect this to go?
Don't buy it, and don't lose any sleep over it.
If a lot of complaints have been recieved about the business for looking dodgy then that might lead to further action. Its only a hunch but that doesnt mean its wrong.How do you expect this to go?
Don't buy it, and don't lose any sleep over it.
But as you suggest - if its the ONLY complaint then nothing will probably happen.
SpeedIsProgress said:
The diff sounded like it was about to fall off, I've never encountered a gear box as beaten. I'd booked a test drive and then car had been runnimg to warm the engine up for my arrival, the heater was on and fan on full, presumably to draw water through.
So you have no evidence at all that the car has been clocked.Poorly maintained maybe, but clocked, no.
SMcP114 said:
So, you have no proof there is anything wrong with the car, or that it's been clocked, other than you personally think it might be, and you want to report it?
How do you expect this to go?
Don't buy it, and don't lose any sleep over it.
Granted I have no genuine proof, perhaps he went rallying in it and it is legit; just seems too unlikely. How do you expect this to go?
Don't buy it, and don't lose any sleep over it.
Based on some of the responses I'll probably send Trading Standards an email, if everyone were to turn a blind eye they'd never build up a reason to investigate the place and they'll get away with it for years.... bit like (albeit in a far more horrific way) 'old Jimmy' did.
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