Busted with Class A

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C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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DWS said:
OP, IMHO you are a knob! As for the others on here who condone taking this drug you are also Knobs.

If it were up to me anyone obtaining/using Class A drugs should be prosecuted. You are all losers!

I have never taken any Illegal drugs in my life and don't intend to do so, only because I know I would like them.

Yes, I drink (probably too much) but illegal drugs, Never, not even a spliff. There is much more in life to give you a high than Drugs.

Naïve? Probably. Just MHO.
What a sad little man. Run along.

Gareth79

7,692 posts

247 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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jdw100 said:
I’m still amazed the bouncer called the Police for such a tiny amount anyway - what a crap club! At the very most I’d have expected being asked to leave. I suspect it’s because of it being in separate little capsules - very odd way of going about things.....
I don't frequent nightclubs, but a couple of friends work the doors at London clubs and I believe they always call the police if they find "class A's". I don't think they physically restrain the person though, so if the person doesn't stick around they'll just turn over the drugs to the officers.

NGee

2,399 posts

165 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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C70R said:
DWS said:
OP, IMHO you are a knob! As for the others on here who condone taking this drug you are also Knobs.

If it were up to me anyone obtaining/using Class A drugs should be prosecuted. You are all losers!

I have never taken any Illegal drugs in my life and don't intend to do so, only because I know I would like them.

Yes, I drink (probably too much) but illegal drugs, Never, not even a spliff. There is much more in life to give you a high than Drugs.

Naïve? Probably. Just MHO.
What a sad little man. Run along.
Why? What is sad about that?

There is another thread running on here at the moment where several posters are getting castigated for having an extra bolt or the wrong spacing on their number plate. Apparently one of the most henious crimes in the world.
However, here we have someone who volutarily wishes to get involved in a disgusting and dangerous industry that causes death and misery for millions across the world, and they are treated as some kind of hero because 'they only had a little bit'.

That 'little' bit' has cost ALL of us money, yes even you C70R.
Why do you think car/house insurance is so high? Because druggies will nick anything for their next fix.
Why do think local/national taxes are so high? Because it costs a lot of money to educate, punish and care for druggies.
Why do you think the roads are full of potholes? Because the money is being spent by the NHS.
Why do you think the NHS is falling to pieces? Because far too many resourses are being spent on looking after druggies.

I do realise that this is a fairly simplistic view and that their are obviously various other reasons why nothing seems to work nowadays and everything costs so much. But in my opinion the illegal drug trade is one of the main reasons and the world would be a better place if illegal drugs were eradicated. Although I also realise this is fantasy land and it isn't going to happen!

So next time you read about, or see, someone with 'just a little bit' of illegal drugs then just remember, unless you are the one driving around in the black BMW with tinted windows, it is costing YOU money. Don't feel sorry for them, just shoot them, solve a lot of problems!

I'm with DWS on this one.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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C70R said:
DWS said:
OP, IMHO you are a knob! As for the others on here who condone taking this drug you are also Knobs.

If it were up to me anyone obtaining/using Class A drugs should be prosecuted. You are all losers!

I have never taken any Illegal drugs in my life and don't intend to do so, only because I know I would like them.

Yes, I drink (probably too much) but illegal drugs, Never, not even a spliff. There is much more in life to give you a high than Drugs.

Naïve? Probably. Just MHO.
What a sad little man. Run along.
Are you a drug dealer, or just ignorant of the damage the drugs trade causes then?

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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So everyone is in agreement that prohibition is bad?

guindilias

5,245 posts

121 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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DWS said:
OP, IMHO you are a knob! As for the others on here who condone taking this drug you are also Knobs.

If it were up to me anyone obtaining/using Class A drugs should be prosecuted. You are all losers!

I have never taken any Illegal drugs in my life and don't intend to do so, only because I know I would like them.

Yes, I drink (probably too much) but illegal drugs, Never, not even a spliff. There is much more in life to give you a high than Drugs.

Naïve? Probably. Just MHO.
And what if you were in Canada - would you (legally) smoke a spliff, eat a brownie, whatever - is it just the fact that it's illegal that stops you?

otolith

56,243 posts

205 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Chris AR said:
The condition being I attend an interview with a drug awareness professional.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Oakey said:
So everyone is in agreement that prohibition is bad?
Different thread wobble

BertBert

19,079 posts

212 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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NGee said:
That 'little' bit' has cost ALL of us money, yes even you C70R.
Why do you think car/house insurance is so high? Because druggies will nick anything for their next fix.
Why do think local/national taxes are so high? Because it costs a lot of money to educate, punish and care for druggies.
Why do you think the roads are full of potholes? Because the money is being spent by the NHS.
Why do you think the NHS is falling to pieces? Because far too many resourses are being spent on looking after druggies.

I do realise that this is a fairly simplistic view...
Awesome nonsense.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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GC8 said:
In this circumstance, perhaps, although there may have been that little cocaine in the capsules that it was under their prosecution threshold. My point here is that whilst I suspect that you are correct, his acting as he did may not have been the reason.

I dint think that solicitors and police officers will ever agree on what you should do and I would tend to take a solicitors advice on this subject.
Possession for personal use (without any previous convictions) is always going to have the options for for non-court disposal available.

The only way he opens up the options to avoid court is to admit it.

If taking advise from police / solicitors I’d agree with the latter, but here they’d both agree. Best outcome for the offender and the police (less time and paperwork).


Never you mind

1,507 posts

113 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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NGee said:
That 'little' bit' has cost ALL of us money, yes even you C70R.
Why do you think car/house insurance is so high? Because druggies will nick anything for their next fix.
Why do think local/national taxes are so high? Because it costs a lot of money to educate, punish and care for druggies.
Why do you think the roads are full of potholes? Because the money is being spent by the NHS.
Why do you think the NHS is falling to pieces? Because far too many resourses are being spent on looking after druggies.

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I've read some crap in my time but this takes the biscuit ( and not the disco variety)

NGee

2,399 posts

165 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Never you mind said:
NGee said:
That 'little' bit' has cost ALL of us money, yes even you C70R.
Why do you think car/house insurance is so high? Because druggies will nick anything for their next fix.
Why do think local/national taxes are so high? Because it costs a lot of money to educate, punish and care for druggies.
Why do you think the roads are full of potholes? Because the money is being spent by the NHS.
Why do you think the NHS is falling to pieces? Because far too many resourses are being spent on looking after druggies.

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I've read some crap in my time but this takes the biscuit ( and not the disco variety)
Maybe you'd like to explain why this is so crap then.

Or are you a drug dealer? Or do you just not understand the terrific amount of money (your taxes) that is spent sorting out the problems caused by druggies?

I notice you've carefully edited out the bit where I said "I do realise that this is a fairly simplistic view and that their are obviously various other reasons......."


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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NGee said:
Never you mind said:
NGee said:
That 'little' bit' has cost ALL of us money, yes even you C70R.
Why do you think car/house insurance is so high? Because druggies will nick anything for their next fix.
Why do think local/national taxes are so high? Because it costs a lot of money to educate, punish and care for druggies.
Why do you think the roads are full of potholes? Because the money is being spent by the NHS.
Why do you think the NHS is falling to pieces? Because far too many resourses are being spent on looking after druggies.
I've read some crap in my time but this takes the biscuit ( and not the disco variety)
Maybe you'd like to explain why this is so crap then.

Or are you a drug dealer? Or do you just not understand the terrific amount of money (your taxes) that is spent sorting out the problems caused by druggies?

I notice you've carefully edited out the bit where I said "I do realise that this is a fairly simplistic view and that their are obviously various other reasons......."
It also has a positive benefit for the economy, which is why it's included in our GDP figure.

I'll also bet that all of those things are higher because of people misusing alcohol, rather than 'druggies' - assuming by 'druggies' you mean people using prohibitive substances. The difference is that the net economic benefit of alcohol offsets the cost because it's legal and regulated.

The cocaine business is run by horrible people. Whether that's the brutal cartels who manufacturer it skinning people alive, or the Organised Crime Groups over here who distribute it and force children to deal for them.

That's because it's illegal, so only criminals get involved.

And since it is illegal we have a 'war on drugs'. This war isn't going too successfully, you may have noticed. What has been consistent is the demand for cocaine and other substances. Telling someone drugs are bad (m'kay), only has a limited effect and obviously many people aren't really interested in that message.

So in terms of problem-solving there are other options to consider. Whether that ultimately means we should make cocaine legal isn't a given, but we need to have a look at how we prohibit substances and the cost / harm / benefit of each one.

Some states in the US have been rather progressive with cannabis and they're benefiting from legalisation.



Drumroll

3,774 posts

121 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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BertBert said:
NGee said:
That 'little' bit' has cost ALL of us money, yes even you C70R.
Why do you think car/house insurance is so high? Because druggies will nick anything for their next fix.
Why do think local/national taxes are so high? Because it costs a lot of money to educate, punish and care for druggies.
Why do you think the roads are full of potholes? Because the money is being spent by the NHS.
Why do you think the NHS is falling to pieces? Because far too many resourses are being spent on looking after druggies.

I do realise that this is a fairly simplistic view...
Awesome nonsense.
Are you saying misuse of drugs in the UK doesn't cost us all money?
Whether it costs as more than the misuse of alcohol could be debated, But it does cost us money

Biker 1

7,746 posts

120 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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La Liga said:
And since it is illegal we have a 'war on drugs'. This war isn't going too successfully, you may have noticed.
I won't quote the post in it's entirety, but exactly this.
The demand is there, so someone will supply. Not my cup of tea, but aren't we better off legalising the whole sorry lot?

Never you mind

1,507 posts

113 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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NGee said:
Never you mind said:
NGee said:
That 'little' bit' has cost ALL of us money, yes even you C70R.
Why do you think car/house insurance is so high? Because druggies will nick anything for their next fix.
Why do think local/national taxes are so high? Because it costs a lot of money to educate, punish and care for druggies.
Why do you think the roads are full of potholes? Because the money is being spent by the NHS.
Why do you think the NHS is falling to pieces? Because far too many resourses are being spent on looking after druggies.

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I've read some crap in my time but this takes the biscuit ( and not the disco variety)
Maybe you'd like to explain why this is so crap then.

Or are you a drug dealer? Or do you just not understand the terrific amount of money (your taxes) that is spent sorting out the problems caused by druggies?

I notice you've carefully edited out the bit where I said "I do realise that this is a fairly simplistic view and that their are obviously various other reasons......."
I bet more money is wasted on people who like booze a bit too much rather than people like the OP who was caught with nothing more than a light dusting of columbian marching powder. It's .3g not a pile that you could ski down.



anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Biker 1 said:
La Liga said:
And since it is illegal we have a 'war on drugs'. This war isn't going too successfully, you may have noticed.
I won't quote the post in it's entirety, but exactly this.
The demand is there, so someone will supply. Not my cup of tea, but aren't we better off legalising the whole sorry lot?
I think we start with cannabis and go from there.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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g3org3y said:
DWS said:
OP, IMHO you are a knob! As for the others on here who condone taking this drug you are also Knobs.

If it were up to me anyone obtaining/using Class A drugs should be prosecuted. You are all losers!

I have never taken any Illegal drugs in my life and don't intend to do so, only because I know I would like them.

Yes, I drink (probably too much) but illegal drugs, Never, not even a spliff. There is much more in life to give you a high than Drugs.

Naïve? Probably. Just MHO.
Like alcohol? Is this post intentionally ironic? (Genuinely not sure if serious).
Just because alcohol is a drug is doesn't mean it's a drug because *he* does it rofl

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Never you mind said:
I bet more money is wasted on people who like booze a bit too much rather than people like the OP who was caught with nothing more than a light dusting of columbian marching powder. It's .3g not a pile that you could ski down.
Source please.

(I’ve had a quick scout and it seems that total cost to society of alcohol and prohibited drugs are of broadly similar magnitude eg £10bn-££20bn).

The Selfish Gene

5,516 posts

211 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Osinjak said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
If you accept the caution, you'll struggle with CTC level and above security clearance in future
I love posts like these, 'Only I know what I'm talking about therefore I will look jolly clever and all the cool kids will love me.' The fact that the content is a load of testicles is irrelevant I suppose.
I had SC afterwards too - as someone else said - you just have to declare obviously. It's why I asked if all cautions are made equal or are some worse than others