Are the police having laugh.
Discussion
La Liga said:
I somewhat doubt that it makes or breaks a criminal's decision to offend if the police behave how you describe towards them.
Much better to have them 'onside' as they're more likely to admit / TIC etc if the relationship is good between themselves and the police.
Smiling assassin etc.
Well maybe, but it perhaps more likely depicts a desensitised position of you're average copper and acceptance that this is the way it is, whereas it just shouldn't be. Much better to have them 'onside' as they're more likely to admit / TIC etc if the relationship is good between themselves and the police.
Smiling assassin etc.
Perhaps after years in the job, an average copper should try to see things how your average joe in the street does. We don't want to see them being best mates with the scumbags they have to deal with, whether it be genuine, forced or just a way of making their life easier.
I always think the acid test is would they behave like this toward the perpetrators if they themselves, (or a loved one) were the subject of the crime committed. And of course, the answer is no, or hypothetical as they would not be allowed to be in that position. However, they should ask themselves how they would feel if they witnessed other coppers doing it, and then they may get it!
Again, no need to be nasty, rude or unprofessional. Just not so f
king matey with them poo at Paul's said:
I sort of see where the OP's is coming from, and it is not just here at this event.
Even in serious cases on that program 24 hours in custody thing. It really boils the piss of the average watcher to see how the cops seem to fawn and play along with some of the offenders, calling them "mate" and referring to other times they've been in there when arresting them and booking them in etc joking away.
In nearly all cases, these are fking scumbags, drug dealers, thieves and the like, and I cant help but think "why are you being so fking matey with them, just because you bring them in twice a month?". Now some will say, well what does being nasty to them achieve, but I don't advocate that they should be "nasty" or rude to them, not alt all. But such people and their behaviour is contemptuous to the vast majority of the population, and I don't see why the cops need to be so freindly to them. It's not a binary thing, you can deal with someone professionally and with respect, but make it very clear to them that you disapprove of what they've bene doing.
I don't get it, It is either that they are scared of these people, or so desensitised to the criminal scumbag acts they perpetrate, that they see them as just loveable rogues and the best way to deal with them is to pretend to be their best mate.
I'd much prefer to see them be professional, to the point, and by the book, but behave in a way that makes it clear to these wkers at all time, that their behaviour is unacceptable and abhorrent normal citizens, and to show a certain contempt for it as any decent citizen would.
IMHO all being nicey nicey to them achieves is to somehow legitimise the behaviour to the scumbags and make them think that it cant be that bad, as the 6 coppers the rest of us have just paid for to carry them in, are laughing and joking along with them, being overtly pleasant to them so "it must all be ok".
These scumbags seem to live by different rules and don't get how conformist most society is. And unless everyone, cops too, show their contempt of such, they will never realise how unacceptable it all is.
I see your point, but at the same time if being a bit matey maintains control, rather than winding up the scumbag to commit extra offences, isn't that better all around? Even in serious cases on that program 24 hours in custody thing. It really boils the piss of the average watcher to see how the cops seem to fawn and play along with some of the offenders, calling them "mate" and referring to other times they've been in there when arresting them and booking them in etc joking away.
In nearly all cases, these are f
king scumbags, drug dealers, thieves and the like, and I cant help but think "why are you being so fking matey with them, just because you bring them in twice a month?". Now some will say, well what does being nasty to them achieve, but I don't advocate that they should be "nasty" or rude to them, not alt all. But such people and their behaviour is contemptuous to the vast majority of the population, and I don't see why the cops need to be so freindly to them. It's not a binary thing, you can deal with someone professionally and with respect, but make it very clear to them that you disapprove of what they've bene doing. I don't get it, It is either that they are scared of these people, or so desensitised to the criminal scumbag acts they perpetrate, that they see them as just loveable rogues and the best way to deal with them is to pretend to be their best mate.
I'd much prefer to see them be professional, to the point, and by the book, but behave in a way that makes it clear to these w
kers at all time, that their behaviour is unacceptable and abhorrent normal citizens, and to show a certain contempt for it as any decent citizen would.IMHO all being nicey nicey to them achieves is to somehow legitimise the behaviour to the scumbags and make them think that it cant be that bad, as the 6 coppers the rest of us have just paid for to carry them in, are laughing and joking along with them, being overtly pleasant to them so "it must all be ok".
These scumbags seem to live by different rules and don't get how conformist most society is. And unless everyone, cops too, show their contempt of such, they will never realise how unacceptable it all is.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Thursday 18th April 17:04
I'll give you an example- a few months back I spent 5 hours in a cubicle at my local A & E. In the next cubicle, handcuffed to a bed, was some drunken lowlife who couldn't be delivered to the custody sergeant on assault charges before he had been examined to determine that the bump on his head wasn't serious.
Point being, that a copper spent all that time with him. Copper was brilliant- lowlife clearly on the edge of going bananas, asking the same stupid questions time and again. Copper treated him with (undeserved but still appropriate) respect and endless patience. As a result, there was no need for 5 other coppers to be brought in to restrain him, or for everyone else in A & E to be disrupted.
You could say it was 'mateyness'- but I'd call it professionalism.
mac96 said:
poo at Paul's said:
I sort of see where the OP's is coming from, and it is not just here at this event.
Even in serious cases on that program 24 hours in custody thing. It really boils the piss of the average watcher to see how the cops seem to fawn and play along with some of the offenders, calling them "mate" and referring to other times they've been in there when arresting them and booking them in etc joking away.
In nearly all cases, these are scumbags, drug dealers, thieves and the like, and I cant help but think "why are you being so matey with them, just because you bring them in twice a month?". Now some will say, well what does being nasty to them achieve, but I don't advocate that they should be "nasty" or rude to them, not alt all. But such people and their behaviour is contemptuous to the vast majority of the population, and I don't see why the cops need to be so freindly to them. It's not a binary thing, you can deal with someone professionally and with respect, but make it very clear to them that you disapprove of what they've bene doing.
I don't get it, It is either that they are scared of these people, or so desensitised to the criminal scumbag acts they perpetrate, that they see them as just loveable rogues and the best way to deal with them is to pretend to be their best mate.
I'd much prefer to see them be professional, to the point, and by the book, but behave in a way that makes it clear to these wkers at all time, that their behaviour is unacceptable and abhorrent normal citizens, and to show a certain contempt for it as any decent citizen would.
IMHO all being nicey nicey to them achieves is to somehow legitimise the behaviour to the scumbags and make them think that it cant be that bad, as the 6 coppers the rest of us have just paid for to carry them in, are laughing and joking along with them, being overtly pleasant to them so "it must all be ok".
These scumbags seem to live by different rules and don't get how conformist most society is. And unless everyone, cops too, show their contempt of such, they will never realise how unacceptable it all is.
I see your point, but at the same time if being a bit matey maintains control, rather than winding up the scumbag to commit extra offences, isn't that better all around? Even in serious cases on that program 24 hours in custody thing. It really boils the piss of the average watcher to see how the cops seem to fawn and play along with some of the offenders, calling them "mate" and referring to other times they've been in there when arresting them and booking them in etc joking away.
In nearly all cases, these are scumbags, drug dealers, thieves and the like, and I cant help but think "why are you being so matey with them, just because you bring them in twice a month?". Now some will say, well what does being nasty to them achieve, but I don't advocate that they should be "nasty" or rude to them, not alt all. But such people and their behaviour is contemptuous to the vast majority of the population, and I don't see why the cops need to be so freindly to them. It's not a binary thing, you can deal with someone professionally and with respect, but make it very clear to them that you disapprove of what they've bene doing.
I don't get it, It is either that they are scared of these people, or so desensitised to the criminal scumbag acts they perpetrate, that they see them as just loveable rogues and the best way to deal with them is to pretend to be their best mate.
I'd much prefer to see them be professional, to the point, and by the book, but behave in a way that makes it clear to these w
kers at all time, that their behaviour is unacceptable and abhorrent normal citizens, and to show a certain contempt for it as any decent citizen would.IMHO all being nicey nicey to them achieves is to somehow legitimise the behaviour to the scumbags and make them think that it cant be that bad, as the 6 coppers the rest of us have just paid for to carry them in, are laughing and joking along with them, being overtly pleasant to them so "it must all be ok".
These scumbags seem to live by different rules and don't get how conformist most society is. And unless everyone, cops too, show their contempt of such, they will never realise how unacceptable it all is.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Thursday 18th April 17:04
I'll give you an example- a few months back I spent 5 hours in a cubicle at my local A & E. In the next cubicle, handcuffed to a bed, was some drunken lowlife who couldn't be delivered to the custody sergeant on assault charges before he had been examined to determine that the bump on his head wasn't serious.
Point being, that a copper spent all that time with him. Copper was brilliant- lowlife clearly on the edge of going bananas, asking the same stupid questions time and again. Copper treated him with (undeserved but still appropriate) respect and endless patience. As a result, there was no need for 5 other coppers to be brought in to restrain him, or for everyone else in A & E to be disrupted.
You could say it was 'mateyness'- but I'd call it professionalism.
If the police respond in a heavy-handed manner, it would generate more demonstrators. It has been organised cleverly, certainly by timing. It’s Easter and many people will be on holiday looking for something that combines fun with the justification of being doing something positive with regards to the response to climate change.
If the police had been heavy-handed it would have generated a bigger response, particularly from anarchists and their ilk.
As for calling prisoners ‘mate’ and being friendly, I saw a detective sergeant put his arm around a bloke who’d been buggering his (the offender's) nephew for years. We found the lad, in a dress, sobbing in an alleyway. The DS made the offender a cup of tea. He got a full and frank, with details that he could, no doubt, have obtained via the victim, but the lad was, at least, spared that.
A prisoner of mine, whom’d I fought with during the arrest, was a witness to a complaint against me. Not only is there any point in upsetting anyone, it can lead to cooperation, not only in cases of complaints, but in the future conduct of the offenders.
A poster suggested that the police are not as respected as they used to be. I’m not sure that’s true. The police are understaffed. They are struggling to cope with day-to-day demands. That’s got to be the main concern. I doubt many open-minded people will fail to understand that, as I said, police are limited to their response. I doubt the battle of the bean field generated much respect for the police, even amongst those who resented the damage to Stonehenge it was meant to protect.
Are cyclists going to have their throne toppled?
Are the police going to become the top enemy of the bearded PH company director, in lieu of bike riders ?
OP : step away from the daily mail , they are click bait worthless st stirrers....
The people who are complaining about the the police not being heavy handed enough are probably the same people who wouldn't like a security guard stopping them on their way out of Tesco...
Are the police going to become the top enemy of the bearded PH company director, in lieu of bike riders ?
OP : step away from the daily mail , they are click bait worthless s
t stirrers....The people who are complaining about the the police not being heavy handed enough are probably the same people who wouldn't like a security guard stopping them on their way out of Tesco...
Derek Smith said:
mac96 said:
poo at Paul's said:
I sort of see where the OP's is coming from, and it is not just here at this event.
Even in serious cases on that program 24 hours in custody thing. It really boils the piss of the average watcher to see how the cops seem to fawn and play along with some of the offenders, calling them "mate" and referring to other times they've been in there when arresting them and booking them in etc joking away.
In nearly all cases, these are scumbags, drug dealers, thieves and the like, and I cant help but think "why are you being so matey with them, just because you bring them in twice a month?". Now some will say, well what does being nasty to them achieve, but I don't advocate that they should be "nasty" or rude to them, not alt all. But such people and their behaviour is contemptuous to the vast majority of the population, and I don't see why the cops need to be so freindly to them. It's not a binary thing, you can deal with someone professionally and with respect, but make it very clear to them that you disapprove of what they've bene doing.
I don't get it, It is either that they are scared of these people, or so desensitised to the criminal scumbag acts they perpetrate, that they see them as just loveable rogues and the best way to deal with them is to pretend to be their best mate.
I'd much prefer to see them be professional, to the point, and by the book, but behave in a way that makes it clear to these wkers at all time, that their behaviour is unacceptable and abhorrent normal citizens, and to show a certain contempt for it as any decent citizen would.
IMHO all being nicey nicey to them achieves is to somehow legitimise the behaviour to the scumbags and make them think that it cant be that bad, as the 6 coppers the rest of us have just paid for to carry them in, are laughing and joking along with them, being overtly pleasant to them so "it must all be ok".
These scumbags seem to live by different rules and don't get how conformist most society is. And unless everyone, cops too, show their contempt of such, they will never realise how unacceptable it all is.
I see your point, but at the same time if being a bit matey maintains control, rather than winding up the scumbag to commit extra offences, isn't that better all around? Even in serious cases on that program 24 hours in custody thing. It really boils the piss of the average watcher to see how the cops seem to fawn and play along with some of the offenders, calling them "mate" and referring to other times they've been in there when arresting them and booking them in etc joking away.
In nearly all cases, these are scumbags, drug dealers, thieves and the like, and I cant help but think "why are you being so matey with them, just because you bring them in twice a month?". Now some will say, well what does being nasty to them achieve, but I don't advocate that they should be "nasty" or rude to them, not alt all. But such people and their behaviour is contemptuous to the vast majority of the population, and I don't see why the cops need to be so freindly to them. It's not a binary thing, you can deal with someone professionally and with respect, but make it very clear to them that you disapprove of what they've bene doing.
I don't get it, It is either that they are scared of these people, or so desensitised to the criminal scumbag acts they perpetrate, that they see them as just loveable rogues and the best way to deal with them is to pretend to be their best mate.
I'd much prefer to see them be professional, to the point, and by the book, but behave in a way that makes it clear to these w
kers at all time, that their behaviour is unacceptable and abhorrent normal citizens, and to show a certain contempt for it as any decent citizen would.IMHO all being nicey nicey to them achieves is to somehow legitimise the behaviour to the scumbags and make them think that it cant be that bad, as the 6 coppers the rest of us have just paid for to carry them in, are laughing and joking along with them, being overtly pleasant to them so "it must all be ok".
These scumbags seem to live by different rules and don't get how conformist most society is. And unless everyone, cops too, show their contempt of such, they will never realise how unacceptable it all is.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Thursday 18th April 17:04
I'll give you an example- a few months back I spent 5 hours in a cubicle at my local A & E. In the next cubicle, handcuffed to a bed, was some drunken lowlife who couldn't be delivered to the custody sergeant on assault charges before he had been examined to determine that the bump on his head wasn't serious.
Point being, that a copper spent all that time with him. Copper was brilliant- lowlife clearly on the edge of going bananas, asking the same stupid questions time and again. Copper treated him with (undeserved but still appropriate) respect and endless patience. As a result, there was no need for 5 other coppers to be brought in to restrain him, or for everyone else in A & E to be disrupted.
You could say it was 'mateyness'- but I'd call it professionalism.
If the police respond in a heavy-handed manner, it would generate more demonstrators. It has been organised cleverly, certainly by timing. It’s Easter and many people will be on holiday looking for something that combines fun with the justification of being doing something positive with regards to the response to climate change.
If the police had been heavy-handed it would have generated a bigger response, particularly from anarchists and their ilk.
As for calling prisoners ‘mate’ and being friendly, I saw a detective sergeant put his arm around a bloke who’d been buggering his (the offender's) nephew for years. We found the lad, in a dress, sobbing in an alleyway. The DS made the offender a cup of tea. He got a full and frank, with details that he could, no doubt, have obtained via the victim, but the lad was, at least, spared that.
A prisoner of mine, whom’d I fought with during the arrest, was a witness to a complaint against me. Not only is there any point in upsetting anyone, it can lead to cooperation, not only in cases of complaints, but in the future conduct of the offenders.
A poster suggested that the police are not as respected as they used to be. I’m not sure that’s true. The police are understaffed. They are struggling to cope with day-to-day demands. That’s got to be the main concern. I doubt many open-minded people will fail to understand that, as I said, police are limited to their response. I doubt the battle of the bean field generated much respect for the police, even amongst those who resented the damage to Stonehenge it was meant to protect.
Biker 1 said:
This bks has now gone on for 4 days & Swampy et al want to carry on for another two weeks & allegedly want to close down Heathrow. Perhaps asking them nicely has now run its course?
Drenching them in a fine mist of cold water may change thier tone..ks has now gone on for 4 days & Swampy et al want to carry on for another two weeks & allegedly want to close down Heathrow. Perhaps asking them nicely has now run its course?Enought is more than enought..
End of it needs to be finished... tear gas etc..
Fish said:
Biker 1 said:
This bks has now gone on for 4 days & Swampy et al want to carry on for another two weeks & allegedly want to close down Heathrow. Perhaps asking them nicely has now run its course?
Drenching them in a fine mist of cold water may change thier tone..ks has now gone on for 4 days & Swampy et al want to carry on for another two weeks & allegedly want to close down Heathrow. Perhaps asking them nicely has now run its course?Enought is more than enought..
End of it needs to be finished... tear gas etc..
poo at Paul's said:
I sort of see where the OP's is coming from, and it is not just here at this event.
Even in serious cases on that program 24 hours in custody thing. It really boils the piss of the average watcher to see how the cops seem to fawn and play along with some of the offenders, calling them "mate" and referring to other times they've been in there when arresting them and booking them in etc joking away.
In nearly all cases, these are fking scumbags, drug dealers, thieves and the like, and I cant help but think "why are you being so fking matey with them, just because you bring them in twice a month?". Now some will say, well what does being nasty to them achieve, but I don't advocate that they should be "nasty" or rude to them, not alt all. But such people and their behaviour is contemptuous to the vast majority of the population, and I don't see why the cops need to be so freindly to them. It's not a binary thing, you can deal with someone professionally and with respect, but make it very clear to them that you disapprove of what they've bene doing.
I don't get it, It is either that they are scared of these people, or so desensitised to the criminal scumbag acts they perpetrate, that they see them as just loveable rogues and the best way to deal with them is to pretend to be their best mate.
I'd much prefer to see them be professional, to the point, and by the book, but behave in a way that makes it clear to these wkers at all time, that their behaviour is unacceptable and abhorrent normal citizens, and to show a certain contempt for it as any decent citizen would.
IMHO all being nicey nicey to them achieves is to somehow legitimise the behaviour to the scumbags and make them think that it cant be that bad, as the 6 coppers the rest of us have just paid for to carry them in, are laughing and joking along with them, being overtly pleasant to them so "it must all be ok".
These scumbags seem to live by different rules and don't get how conformist most society is. And unless everyone, cops too, show their contempt of such, they will never realise how unacceptable it all is.
to be fair while these people are imo deluded and i think the alarmist narrative they are convinced of is a pile of sEven in serious cases on that program 24 hours in custody thing. It really boils the piss of the average watcher to see how the cops seem to fawn and play along with some of the offenders, calling them "mate" and referring to other times they've been in there when arresting them and booking them in etc joking away.
In nearly all cases, these are f
king scumbags, drug dealers, thieves and the like, and I cant help but think "why are you being so fking matey with them, just because you bring them in twice a month?". Now some will say, well what does being nasty to them achieve, but I don't advocate that they should be "nasty" or rude to them, not alt all. But such people and their behaviour is contemptuous to the vast majority of the population, and I don't see why the cops need to be so freindly to them. It's not a binary thing, you can deal with someone professionally and with respect, but make it very clear to them that you disapprove of what they've bene doing. I don't get it, It is either that they are scared of these people, or so desensitised to the criminal scumbag acts they perpetrate, that they see them as just loveable rogues and the best way to deal with them is to pretend to be their best mate.
I'd much prefer to see them be professional, to the point, and by the book, but behave in a way that makes it clear to these w
kers at all time, that their behaviour is unacceptable and abhorrent normal citizens, and to show a certain contempt for it as any decent citizen would.IMHO all being nicey nicey to them achieves is to somehow legitimise the behaviour to the scumbags and make them think that it cant be that bad, as the 6 coppers the rest of us have just paid for to carry them in, are laughing and joking along with them, being overtly pleasant to them so "it must all be ok".
These scumbags seem to live by different rules and don't get how conformist most society is. And unless everyone, cops too, show their contempt of such, they will never realise how unacceptable it all is.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Thursday 18th April 17:04
te, they certainly don't seem to be very high up on the scale of nasty criminal scum. outside of obstruction they appear to fairly well behaved, not stabby or thievy ,so i imagine it is a nice break for the police from the constant stream of real scum they seem to have to deal with these days.it might be a right pain in the arse for those trying to go about their daily business and i do sympathise but i wouldn't like to think people would expect the police to be wading in with batons , horses etc. that will only make the situation worse and cause even greater disruption for a lot of people already affected by what is a peaceful and relatively minor protest by a bunch of deluded eco loons.
Fish said:
Biker 1 said:
This bks has now gone on for 4 days & Swampy et al want to carry on for another two weeks & allegedly want to close down Heathrow. Perhaps asking them nicely has now run its course?
Drenching them in a fine mist of cold water may change thier tone..ks has now gone on for 4 days & Swampy et al want to carry on for another two weeks & allegedly want to close down Heathrow. Perhaps asking them nicely has now run its course?Enought is more than enought..
End of it needs to be finished... tear gas etc..
Shame the weather is warming up for the weekend.
Giving them a good soaking would save the cost of the police.
To further my point earlier, What you're seeing, as noted by others is a very good example of non / de escalation; As has been seen all to often in the past -
Peaceful protest -> "Strong" police reaction -> Violent reaction
Gilets Jaunes; London 2010 riots; Ukraine (Extreme example!)
Whilst I've not been to the scenes, I'd say the temprement of protest is, as evidenced by the media, both published and social, very calm and peaceful. Neither party will win hearts and minds by escalating with batons and molotovs.
Peaceful protest -> "Strong" police reaction -> Violent reaction
Gilets Jaunes; London 2010 riots; Ukraine (Extreme example!)
Whilst I've not been to the scenes, I'd say the temprement of protest is, as evidenced by the media, both published and social, very calm and peaceful. Neither party will win hearts and minds by escalating with batons and molotovs.
"Slammed"
"Outraged"
"Shocked"
"Appalled"
All stock newspaper lines that don't actually happen.
We have the best police force in the world.
Recently I stopped someone committing an illegal act and that person was in a genuine crisis. I stopped with them, talked and listened. I didn't have to spend as long as I did. I could have punished, pointed him in the right direction and moved on. I used discretion.
We moan about the job and the media loves to find fault but I'd love to know of any force in the world that employs human beings who can care?
"Outraged"
"Shocked"
"Appalled"
All stock newspaper lines that don't actually happen.
We have the best police force in the world.
Recently I stopped someone committing an illegal act and that person was in a genuine crisis. I stopped with them, talked and listened. I didn't have to spend as long as I did. I could have punished, pointed him in the right direction and moved on. I used discretion.
We moan about the job and the media loves to find fault but I'd love to know of any force in the world that employs human beings who can care?
Haltamer said:
To further my point earlier, What you're seeing, as noted by others is a very good example of non / de escalation; As has been seen all to often in the past -
Peaceful protest -> "Strong" police reaction -> Violent reaction.
That’s how I see it. I imagine the skateboarding policeman would be wanting to wrap the board round the nearest treehuggers head if the cameras all went off and everyone looked the other way as he will also have been stuffed for getting into work.Peaceful protest -> "Strong" police reaction -> Violent reaction.
Black_S3 said:
Haltamer said:
To further my point earlier, What you're seeing, as noted by others is a very good example of non / de escalation; As has been seen all to often in the past -
Peaceful protest -> "Strong" police reaction -> Violent reaction.
That’s how I see it. I imagine the skateboarding policeman would be wanting to wrap the board round the nearest treehuggers head if the cameras all went off and everyone looked the other way as he will also have been stuffed for getting into work.Peaceful protest -> "Strong" police reaction -> Violent reaction.
It's a typical 'I am fummin' Mail headline. Lets not look at the bigger picture and just moan about the police, yawn.
Sa Calobra said:
People moaning about the protestors but when you walk into a supermarket and upto 50% is fridges on all year round, every item on every shelf covered in plastic and diesel nox etc fumes in our lungs when will anything change?
Retailers won't do anything.
A wider choice of cheaper food than any previous generation, cleaner urban air than for centuries, things are changing in the right direction as far as I'm concerned.Retailers won't do anything.
There are some supermarkets that seem to be taking steps in the 'right' direction. I would suspect that the only reason they are doing so is because it might have a positive effect on their ROI. Much of the pressure they are feeling comes from agitators such as the sjw. However, the recent concentration on pollution of the seas on Sky and Sky news has a lot to do with it as well. Politicians want to appear responsible, as indeed many are, so there's a buildup in pressure. There is also the threat of legislation.
I no longer use single use plastic bags, that is apart from those saved from the days before charging and me being presented with overwhelming evidence that they do harm to the environment.
So some positives.
I no longer use single use plastic bags, that is apart from those saved from the days before charging and me being presented with overwhelming evidence that they do harm to the environment.
So some positives.
Derek Smith said:
There are some supermarkets that seem to be taking steps in the 'right' direction. I would suspect that the only reason they are doing so is because it might have a positive effect on their ROI. Much of the pressure they are feeling comes from agitators such as the sjw. However, the recent concentration on pollution of the seas on Sky and Sky news has a lot to do with it as well. Politicians want to appear responsible, as indeed many are, so there's a buildup in pressure. There is also the threat of legislation.
I no longer use single use plastic bags, that is apart from those saved from the days before charging and me being presented with overwhelming evidence that they do harm to the environment.
So some positives.
Sky seem to be serious about doing their bit to reduce plastic use - they've eliminated single use plastic (and paper cups) in all their catering facilities, for example.I no longer use single use plastic bags, that is apart from those saved from the days before charging and me being presented with overwhelming evidence that they do harm to the environment.
So some positives.
They're also removing plastics from the rest of their business where possible - cables aren't in a plastic bag, but have a paper strip around them instead. Set top boxes are loaded into reusable padded cloth bags at the depot, then put into the vans, meaning they no longer need bags, boxes & polystyrene.
They've even changed the ink used to print the boxes of some products because the old one meant the cardboard couldn't be recycled.
rscott said:
Derek Smith said:
There are some supermarkets that seem to be taking steps in the 'right' direction. I would suspect that the only reason they are doing so is because it might have a positive effect on their ROI. Much of the pressure they are feeling comes from agitators such as the sjw. However, the recent concentration on pollution of the seas on Sky and Sky news has a lot to do with it as well. Politicians want to appear responsible, as indeed many are, so there's a buildup in pressure. There is also the threat of legislation.
I no longer use single use plastic bags, that is apart from those saved from the days before charging and me being presented with overwhelming evidence that they do harm to the environment.
So some positives.
Sky seem to be serious about doing their bit to reduce plastic use - they've eliminated single use plastic (and paper cups) in all their catering facilities, for example.I no longer use single use plastic bags, that is apart from those saved from the days before charging and me being presented with overwhelming evidence that they do harm to the environment.
So some positives.
They're also removing plastics from the rest of their business where possible - cables aren't in a plastic bag, but have a paper strip around them instead. Set top boxes are loaded into reusable padded cloth bags at the depot, then put into the vans, meaning they no longer need bags, boxes & polystyrene.
They've even changed the ink used to print the boxes of some products because the old one meant the cardboard couldn't be recycled.
Regarding the conduct of the police, they look so much better in proper hats instead of the Baseball Caps, though I am not sure they're wearing the correct hats. Wouldn't the tall, pointy one be better for those operations?
Edited by carinaman on Friday 19th April 15:39
rscott said:
Derek Smith said:
There are some supermarkets that seem to be taking steps in the 'right' direction. I would suspect that the only reason they are doing so is because it might have a positive effect on their ROI. Much of the pressure they are feeling comes from agitators such as the sjw. However, the recent concentration on pollution of the seas on Sky and Sky news has a lot to do with it as well. Politicians want to appear responsible, as indeed many are, so there's a buildup in pressure. There is also the threat of legislation.
I no longer use single use plastic bags, that is apart from those saved from the days before charging and me being presented with overwhelming evidence that they do harm to the environment.
So some positives.
Sky seem to be serious about doing their bit to reduce plastic use - they've eliminated single use plastic (and paper cups) in all their catering facilities, for example.I no longer use single use plastic bags, that is apart from those saved from the days before charging and me being presented with overwhelming evidence that they do harm to the environment.
So some positives.
They're also removing plastics from the rest of their business where possible - cables aren't in a plastic bag, but have a paper strip around them instead. Set top boxes are loaded into reusable padded cloth bags at the depot, then put into the vans, meaning they no longer need bags, boxes & polystyrene.
They've even changed the ink used to print the boxes of some products because the old one meant the cardboard couldn't be recycled.
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