Got ticket for 75 - 80 on M25

Got ticket for 75 - 80 on M25

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gallen (bph)

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2,162 posts

256 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Hi chaps,

My freind at work has got a ticket after being stopped on the M25, whilst driving at approx 75-80mph. It was an un-marked car. He was also not the fastest person on the road at the time, as numerous cars were over-taking him.

On the ticket, it says "excess speed -70mph". There is no speed recorded on the ticket to indicate what he is being prosecuted at, or caught driving at.

Does anybody know if this is right, or if this is an oversight that would render the ticket void?
(seems a bit harsh at the speed he was going, any how)

cheers,

Gallen.

tonyhetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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As much as anyone would want to say "what a disgrace" etc, was he doing other things other than exceeding the limit? Tailgating? Rapidly changing lanes? etc. etc.

If he was driving like a plank (this is not an accusation, I stress) then it's understandable. If he wasn't, then while I am surprised - he was still exceeding the limit (though something is a bit fishy as to why him!?).

You say "exceeding 70"...which makes me assume, of course, it was not on the variable limit bit of the M25 (which would explain why 75-80 was pulled!)

puggit

48,483 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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How many coppers in the car? If it's only one and there's no other evidence in it won't stand up...

FastShow

386 posts

253 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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puggit said:
How many coppers in the car? If it's only one and there's no other evidence in it won't stand up...

Unless he has VASCAR or a calibrated speedo, of course.

puggit

48,483 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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FastShow said:

puggit said:
How many coppers in the car? If it's only one and there's no other evidence in it won't stand up...


Unless he has VASCAR or a calibrated speedo, of course.
Well that's evidence, isn't it

m-five

11,249 posts

285 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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[quote=gallen (bph)]Hi chaps,

My freind at work has got a ticket after being stopped on the M25, whilst driving at approx 75-80mph. It was an un-marked car. He was also not the fastest person on the road at the time, as numerous cars were over-taking him.

On the ticket, it says "excess speed -70mph". There is no speed recorded on the ticket to indicate what he is being prosecuted at, or caught driving at.

Does anybody know if this is right, or if this is an oversight that would render the ticket void?
(seems a bit harsh at the speed he was going, any how)

cheers,

Gallen.[/quote]

There is no requirement to put a speed on the ticket as the offence is exceeding the 70mph - there is no specific offence for driving at 75-80mph in a 70mph limit.

I would be very surprised if your friend got a ticket for doing 75mph (is this his estimate?), but rather he was seen going faster elsewhere, but the BIB didn't get a recording of him until he had slowed down and thus the evidence could only be used to prosecute as a fixed penalty.

mcflurry

9,099 posts

254 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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I doubt a BiB would bother to stop anyone for 75-80 kleptons. It wouldn't be worth the hassle.

As above, I would guess he was either driving faster before the blue lights were illuminated, or as per TonyH said above, "driving like a plank"

I got stopped on the M25 at and got a talking to and a producer... www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=10&h=&t=139779


Vipers

32,900 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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FastShow, surely if plod is on his own operating the Vascar, isnt he committing an offence similar to using a mobile phone, ie driving with out due care and attention...................

Whoopps silly me, the law doesnt apply to plods, go out road test your new super unmarked blazing cop car, park on pavements, zap speeding motorists.......

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Vipers said:
FastShow, surely if plod is on his own operating the Vascar, isnt he committing an offence similar to using a mobile phone, ie driving with out due care and attention...................

Whoopps silly me, the law doesnt apply to plods, go out road test your new super unmarked blazing cop car, park on pavements, zap speeding motorists.......


Thats right, if plod sees a car being driven dangerously with 4 men hanging out the windows firing shotguns at oncoming traffic, he must pull over to the side of the road, turn his engine off, apply his handbrake, and only then use his radio.

gh0st

4,693 posts

259 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Vascar and calibrated speedo are b******s anyway.

You are still relying on one man stating that he used it, and used it correctly. It does not remove the human element therefore is totally fallable.