Shed burglars

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PrinceRupert

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skyline501 said:
https://www.ant-supplies.uk/bits-and-bobs/blank-fi...

The scrotes will soil themselves with the added bonus of leaving dna behind.
You mean I'll st myself in my own shed as I trip it when hungover on a Sunday morning biglaugh Or it will be tripped by a fox every second night if outside biglaugh

Edited by PrinceRupert on Monday 1st March 09:50

PrinceRupert

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A500leroy said:
id be keeping your most valuable tools under the stairs.
I don't keep anything that is portable and resellable in a shed - just wood, a very heavy old pillar drill, boxes of screws... there's a lot in there but my rule is to only store stuff that I think a thief just wouldn't be arsed with, or if it did get taken then I wouldn't miss.

They're made of wood and I personally believe they're totally insecure - the OPs burglars must have been totally inept. It always surprises me that insurers cover the contents, and don't even get me started on people keeping expensive cycles in them.

I'm with A500leroy on this one - keep your decent gear in a secure garage or in the house.

(Before anyone says it (typical PH response) - no I don't live in a st area, where I live is lovely, but I am absolutely mental on home security.
I don't have any massively expensive tools in there - my impact driver, drill driver, angle grinder are all fairly cheap and cheerful individually - most expensive thing being my Karcher power washer, socket set, trolley jack. For incompetent chancers like the ones that tried my shed, they wouldn't probably be able to carry away too much of value. Bikes are in the house. For competent hardened crims with a van and the ability to actually break into a shed (I agree it isn't secure - if they had a prybar rather than a screwdriver they'd have been in easily - particularly if they targeted the hinges rather than the locks) they could have emptied the lot and I would have been a few grand out of pocket all in.

In good news, because I managed to identify a suspect through the facebook page, it is being progressed by a burglary detective rather than a uniformed officer; they have taken the footage, came round and collected the snapped screw driver blade, and are taking a witness statement. Sounds like the bloke will get lifted but let's hope he gets a bit of punishment rather than a slap on the wrist. Don't want him coming back for revenge ...

RazerSauber

1,101 posts

24 months

Monday 1st March
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My shed currently only has a hole in the roof, a bunch of empty cabinets and old crusty tools in. If a burglar was to break in there then they'd probably be eaten by the seriously frightening number of spiders in there and if they managed to escape then they'd make off with tools that you'd think came from the Titanic. For all of you wondering, the shed is due to be ripped down this year!

PrinceRupert

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Monday 1st March
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RazerSauber said:
My shed currently only has a hole in the roof, a bunch of empty cabinets and old crusty tools in. If a burglar was to break in there then they'd probably be eaten by the seriously frightening number of spiders in there and if they managed to escape then they'd make off with tools that you'd think came from the Titanic. For all of you wondering, the shed is due to be ripped down this year!
I wonder if they broke in because I have an old project car under a cover on the drive, therefore assumption that shed has tools in it. On the other hand, not sure they are that bright ...

Digger

12,029 posts

155 months

Monday 1st March
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RazerSauber said:
My shed currently only has a hole in the roof, a bunch of empty cabinets and old crusty tools in. If a burglar was to break in there then they'd probably be eaten by the seriously frightening number of spiders in there and if they managed to escape then they'd make off with tools that you'd think came from the Titanic. For all of you wondering, the shed is due to be ripped down this year!
There is a thread around here somewhere regarding shed-destruction. . .

Plymo

537 posts

53 months

Monday 1st March
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PrinceRupert said:
skyline501 said:
https://www.ant-supplies.uk/bits-and-bobs/blank-fi...

The scrotes will soil themselves with the added bonus of leaving dna behind.
You mean I'll st myself in my own shed as I trip it when hungover on a Sunday morning biglaugh Or it will be tripped by a fox every second night if outside biglaugh

Edited by PrinceRupert on Monday 1st March 09:50
I've got 2, not for sheds though! Despite knowing they are there I've set one off by mistake before, and it is surprisingly loud with a great puff of black powder smoke smile
If you aren't expecting it you will st yourself

The trouble I've been having is if the primer in the cartridges gets damp they don't go off - I've been tying them in the finger of a disposable glove to keep them waterproof but it's not great, I will make a box to mount it in instead I think

They also do a smaller one for fitting to doors that uses rimfire blanks that are much cheaper, and doesn't need a tripwire.

When I sort my shed though I'll be having a battery in there for light so I'll just rig the door to a car horn so I don't keep blowing myself up to get a spade out laugh

Pixelpeep Z4

6,421 posts

106 months

Monday 1st March
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Rule of thumb for me...


Extra security stops 95% of opportunists, which is the main cause of this type of crime. They want little or no effort return, and don't want to hang around too long in one place.

Extra security will not stop someone determined - these are usually ones that have some kind of knowledge of about what is behind the locked door (nasty neighbour/tramp of a grandson/friend of the family etc)

It's all about slowing them down - opportunists will just move on, and if it's someone determined, hopefully it'll slow them down enough that they are spotted/disturbed before they gain entry.

One last point - if you have something really valuable in there, and secure it to the hilt, be prepared for someone taking a shortcut to get in there - getting the keys from you by any means necessary.

Plymo

537 posts

53 months

Monday 1st March
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Yep, security only works on opportunists but they are the main kind of thief really - just after their next dose of heroin.
One thing that security does little to stop though is vandalism, I hate it. I can understand (though don't agree with!) theft of various kinds, but vandalism is something that security doesn't really touch.
I'm lucky that so far I've only had about £20 of tools and a £50 pushbike nicked, but I've suffered over £1000 worth of vandalism (plus the cost and hassle of prevention) and the people doing it have literally nothing to gain from it

Hugo Stiglitz

30,738 posts

175 months

Monday 1st March
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A500leroy said:
id be keeping your most valuable tools under the stairs.
Some people keep thousands of pounds in their sheds and Garages secured by 'guaranteed' locks that don't stand a chance against portable devices. They also think it'll slow them down. It doesn't.

Why people do that with bicycles and then complain afterwards when they are lifted?

PrinceRupert

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10,187 posts

49 months

Monday 1st March
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Plymo said:
Yep, security only works on opportunists but they are the main kind of thief really - just after their next dose of heroin.
One thing that security does little to stop though is vandalism, I hate it. I can understand (though don't agree with!) theft of various kinds, but vandalism is something that security doesn't really touch.
I'm lucky that so far I've only had about £20 of tools and a £50 pushbike nicked, but I've suffered over £1000 worth of vandalism (plus the cost and hassle of prevention) and the people doing it have literally nothing to gain from it
I've got my TVR Tuscan arriving this weekend and my biggest concern is the scrote tries to burgle my shed and on the way back down my drive scrapes the claw hammer down the Tuscan just to be a dick ...

InitialDave

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83 months

Monday 1st March
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I've had stuff stolen from my attached, brick garage. The deadbolts at the edges of the door didn't help, they just folded the door until it popped entirely out the frame. Door replaced with an electric roller shutter since.

As above, you can discourage opportunists, but if someone wants in, they'll get in.

All you can hope for is they'll eventually choose the wrong time and place and get beaten to death for it.

Hugo Stiglitz

30,738 posts

175 months

Monday 1st March
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InitialDave said:
All you can hope for is they'll eventually choose the wrong time and place and get beaten to death for it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/30509558

Psycho Warren

1,684 posts

77 months

Monday 1st March
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Why people do that with bicycles and then complain afterwards when they are lifted?
Because they should be able to own nice things without some lowlife scumclass waster stealing them.

InitialDave

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83 months

Monday 1st March
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Yes, this is why you don't confront them yourself.

You just have to hope someone else will, and do a proper job of it.

Psycho Warren

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77 months

Monday 1st March
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Psycho Warren said:
some lowlife scumclass waster stealing them.
Oh sorry i forget, its a disadvantaged member of society who had no other choice because we made him do it and ruined his life.

Hugo Stiglitz

30,738 posts

175 months

Monday 1st March
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Psycho Warren said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Why people do that with bicycles and then complain afterwards when they are lifted?
Because they should be able to own nice things without some lowlife scumclass waster stealing them.
1000% I own a brick-built shed and a wooden shed. My new ti road bike, when it comes is going straight inside the house.

If they are coming in the house they are already coming in for what they can get.

MC Bodge

15,472 posts

139 months

Monday 1st March
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InitialDave said:
I've had stuff stolen from my attached, brick garage. The deadbolts at the edges of the door didn't help, they just folded the door until it popped entirely out the frame. Door replaced with an electric roller shutter since.

As above, you can discourage opportunists, but if someone wants in, they'll get in.
Up and over doors are typically very weak.


InitialDave said:
All you can hope for is they'll eventually choose the wrong time and place and get beaten to death for it.
Well, yes.

MC Bodge

15,472 posts

139 months

Monday 1st March
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InitialDave said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Yes, this is why you don't confront them yourself.

You just have to hope someone else will, and do a proper job of it.
Yes, a proper nutter:
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12158603.dunca...

Some people don't learn
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-30...

PrinceRupert

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So, some good news - the suspect will be getting lifted this week. Police reasonably confident in their case as well. Hopefully gets an appropriate punishment.

Edited by PrinceRupert on Monday 1st March 13:50

jondude

2,028 posts

181 months

Monday 1st March
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Can you leave your car in the drive so it blocks easy access to the shed (or a gate?) If it is a pain getting to and from the shed, that will deter some.

Also, a shed full of rubbish and crap which is burying your more expensive items can help as the thieves now need more time and will make more noise so may give up.

Another trick I read was to use the Russian doll method. That is, the shed is locked then when opened you have another door which is locked. Your tools are also in a locked box which is locked to the floor too. If they get through the first lock on the box to your tools, they find they are inside another box, locked to the box which is locked to the floor.

Sounds a decent enough idea but I have always found having a shed that looks like a tip when you open the door has served me well.