PSCOs Anyone had a positive interaction with one?

PSCOs Anyone had a positive interaction with one?

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surveyor_101

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5,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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I am not a massive fan of the blue nobs plastic police, anyone had a decent experience or are mostly cop wana be?


Had a chat with one tonight 50 year old guy in a ford ranger who didn't like me changing lanes on 3 (3 to 1 in one smooth manoeuvre) lane carriageway in the distant empty road from him without a left hand signal seemed to think it was very dangerous, I said look flower in your check drive they don't cover System of car control but in my information phase as no one could benefit and the highway code says move left when possible I moved back to lane 1 when safe, I was alright what offence do you think I committed? He didn't know!

He was moaning about speed as I left the lights fast to the limit but again PSCOs have no blues follow check speed training etc but he really had a cartman vibe. He didn't speed to catch me he caught up with me in traffic.

When I asked to see his designation card he didn't even know what his was so I said maybe you call it a powers booklet to which he said he didn't carry it! I said under the police reform act 2002 I believe you are required to have about your person on duty so you can convey and to a member of public your powers, he seemed lost at this point. I said since your unable to convey I need to get going now so if your not planning to detain me for 30 mins I shall be leaving now but thanks for the advice!

Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 16th March 19:25

Scrump

21,985 posts

158 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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surveyor_101 said:
I am not a massive fan of the blue nobs plastic police, anyone had a decent experience or are mostly cop wana be?


Had a chat with one tonight 50 year old guy in a ford ranger who didn't like me changing lanes on 3 (3 to 1 in one smooth manoeuvre) lane carriageway in the distant empty road from him without a left hand signal seemed to think it was very dangerous, I said look flower in your check drive they don't cover System of car control but in my information phase as no one could benefit and the highway code says move left when possible I moved back to lane 1 when safe, I was alright what offence do you think I committed? He didn't know!

He was moaning about speed as I left the lights fast to the limit but again PSCOs have no blues follow check speed training etc but he really had a cartman vibe. He didn't speed to catch me he caught up with me in traffic.

When I asked to see his designation card he didn't even know what his was so I said maybe you call it a powers booklet to which he said he didn't carry it! I said under the police reform act 2002 I believe you are required to have about your person on duty so you can convey and to a member of public your powers, he seemed lost at this point. I said since your unable to convey I need to get going now so if your not planning to detain me for 30 mins I shall be leaving now but thanks for the advice!

Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 16th March 19:25
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surveyor_101

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179 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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POLICE COMMUNITY SUPPORT OFFICER not a full copper and traffic warden who likes to deal with anti social teenagers and in my area at least wear blue bits of uniform instead of black.

They have very limited powers but they differ from force to force!

Blair Labour invented them to increase police numbers while paying less, it was basically a numbers thing to artificially increase police they/thems power (as your can't say manpower as that's a bit 1997)



Somewhatfoolish

4,360 posts

186 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Well that learned him

surveyor_101

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Thursday 16th March 2023
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Well that learned him
Yeh I am a knob but jesus they must pray on some stupid people! How are they all running about without even knowing their basic powers!


Having said that a full bird sergent stopped me years not RPU, he believes not indicating in a left hand only turn lane is driving without due care! I said good luck with that. I nearly went full alan shore on him " I am ready to take you on and everyone your married to, let the games begin"

I am convince avon and somerset basic training is largely paint pride flags by numbers at this point.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 16th March 19:43

cuprabob

14,603 posts

214 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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surveyor_101 said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Well that learned him
Yeh I am a knob but jesus they must pray on some stupid people! How are they all running about without even knowing their basic powers!
Maybe he was impersonating being a PCSO smile

surveyor_101

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Thursday 16th March 2023
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cuprabob said:
Maybe he was impersonating being a PCSO smile
He has all the gear and a fully marked police ranger not that he used the lights lol as he seemed to know thats a no no for him!


Do you think that PCSOs are a good resource, i think more coppers!




sociopath

3,433 posts

66 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Did you not mention you were a sovereign citizen?

I'm sure that would have helped

surveyor_101

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Thursday 16th March 2023
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sociopath said:
Did you not mention you were a sovereign citizen?

I'm sure that would have helped
Give me some credit I am ex job!


That's a yank thing, do your homework we have not constitutional law here, Its In the United Kingdom its freeman of the land and start referring the Magna Carta and Common Law is not the law of the land as 1891!

No see I don't roll like that, I am not I am above the law, I am just if you don't know how to do your job I am not going to do it for you and it helps if you aren't talking feelings.

How to really hack a copper off and see how much time he has on his hands is say this all sounds very serious! Then say I think you should caution me, (They caution you) then they ask questions I did it to one and I replied " you just told me I do not need to say anything, so are you going to arrest me or am I free to leave"!

The look on his face!




Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 16th March 20:01

martinbiz

3,070 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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They probably don't always interact in a positive way because they get sick and tired of know it all idiots disrespecting them all the time

martinbiz

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145 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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surveyor_101 said:
sociopath said:
Did you not mention you were a sovereign citizen?

I'm sure that would have helped
Give me some credit I am ex job!
Of course you are

surveyor_101

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Thursday 16th March 2023
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martinbiz said:
Of course you are
Here we go....I bet your a police eggspert I really don't believe in freeman of the land! There are coppers in my local force with serious criminal records so I don't trust any I don't know!

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2023-03-13/po...

I have no convictions and various government clearances!

surveyor_101

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Thursday 16th March 2023
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martinbiz said:
They probably don't always interact in a positive way because they get sick and tired of know it all idiots disrespecting them all the time
If they don't know their powers or carry the correct documents how can they garner respect! It used to be automatic for the police but I have met so many do as I say not as I do coppers that most are full of it.

A current sgt he moaned about me speeding and drives at 70 (in 30 from a school our children attend in his personal car and races off showing he how fast his new merc is!

tex200

438 posts

171 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Whilst your illiterate rambles are great comedy don’t try and pretend you’ve ever been in the police.

Red9zero

6,844 posts

57 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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My neice is/was a PCSO with A&S. Most of her work seemed to be domestic disputes, speed watch and security tagging push bikes. She obviously liked it though, as she has passed the Police entrance exam and is training to be a "real" copper. Interestingly enough, it is a drop in salary to go from PCSO to trainee.

surveyor_101

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Thursday 16th March 2023
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Red9zero said:
My neice is/was a PCSO with A&S. Most of her work seemed to be domestic disputes, speed watch and security tagging push bikes. She obviously liked it though, as she has passed the Police entrance exam and is training to be a "real" copper. Interestingly enough, it is a drop in salary to go from PCSO to trainee.
PCSOs are not supposed to deal with roads policing hence they don't have training, they can issue parking fines. A&S give them what used to be probie work like community policing, so yea domestic, anti social low level stuff out dealing with minor stuff and walking about. Sounds like she is sensible and sticks to what she knows.


Not for long salary goes up 25k without PCDA 26.5k with after probation period you get like 29k , is she based at Bridgwater Police Centre?

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Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 16th March 20:27

Red9zero

6,844 posts

57 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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surveyor_101 said:
Red9zero said:
My neice is/was a PCSO with A&S. Most of her work seemed to be domestic disputes, speed watch and security tagging push bikes. She obviously liked it though, as she has passed the Police entrance exam and is training to be a "real" copper. Interestingly enough, it is a drop in salary to go from PCSO to trainee.
Not for long salary goes up 25k without PCDA 26.5k with after probation period you get like 29k , is she based at Birdgwater Police Centre?
She is north Bristol currently. Looking to change to Lydney though.

surveyor_101

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Thursday 16th March 2023
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Red9zero said:
She is north Bristol currently. Looking to change to Lydney though.
Nice bristol looks a fun patch!

I know the Somerset area ones better at HE I was a bronze incident commander so used to work with them and let them in my depots from time to time to use the site, once had them in the salt barn on a very wet day searching a van under cover the pulled on the M5.

Mikebentley

6,104 posts

140 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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tex200 said:
Whilst your illiterate rambles are great comedy don’t try and pretend you’ve ever been in the police.
I think if he was ever in the Police they are better off without him. OP have you been drinking? Serious question as your posts are difficult to read.

Super Sonic

4,800 posts

54 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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OP, You may want to leave this thread til the morning, you sound drunk or very angry, you're usually a lot more lucid.
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