Overhead gantries on smart motorways

Overhead gantries on smart motorways

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Glenn63

3,146 posts

92 months

Thursday 7th March
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Pica-Pica said:
Glenn63 said:
Iv just done a course on smart motorways. Two consecutive blank gantries and it returns to NSL.
Wrong. A sign is needed for an official and legal change to previous speed.
In practice, you will only be flashed for what the gantry shows + set tolerance. (70+ tolerance if nothing showing).

Ask for your money back!
Ok then well you best ring up whoever is in charge of these courses and let them know the information they are giving out is incorrect.
It was a corse I chose to take instead of points after being caught doing 47mph when the limit was reduced to 40 for a ‘queue’ on a deserted M5 at 23:30.

MustangGT

12,334 posts

288 months

Friday 8th March
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Glenn63 said:
Ok then well you best ring up whoever is in charge of these courses and let them know the information they are giving out is incorrect.
It was a corse I chose to take instead of points after being caught doing 47mph when the limit was reduced to 40 for a ‘queue’ on a deserted M5 at 23:30.
I have only ever seen an advisory limit for queues, never a punishable reduction.

BertBert

19,762 posts

219 months

Friday 8th March
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Glenn63 said:
Ok then well you best ring up whoever is in charge of these courses and let them know the information they are giving out is incorrect.
It was a corse I chose to take instead of points after being caught doing 47mph when the limit was reduced to 40 for a ‘queue’ on a deserted M5 at 23:30.
I'm not sure that's earth shattering news - normally a goldmine of misinformation and nonsense!

Glenn63

3,146 posts

92 months

Friday 8th March
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MustangGT said:
Glenn63 said:
Ok then well you best ring up whoever is in charge of these courses and let them know the information they are giving out is incorrect.
It was a corse I chose to take instead of points after being caught doing 47mph when the limit was reduced to 40 for a ‘queue’ on a deserted M5 at 23:30.
I have only ever seen an advisory limit for queues, never a punishable reduction.
Not on smart motorways, ‘caution queue ahead’ with red circle reduced limit.

MustangGT

12,334 posts

288 months

Friday 8th March
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Glenn63 said:
MustangGT said:
Glenn63 said:
Ok then well you best ring up whoever is in charge of these courses and let them know the information they are giving out is incorrect.
It was a corse I chose to take instead of points after being caught doing 47mph when the limit was reduced to 40 for a ‘queue’ on a deserted M5 at 23:30.
I have only ever seen an advisory limit for queues, never a punishable reduction.
Not on smart motorways, ‘caution queue ahead’ with red circle reduced limit.
Thanks, I have to go a long way south to get to a smart motorway.

Glenn63

3,146 posts

92 months

Friday 8th March
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MustangGT said:
Glenn63 said:
MustangGT said:
Glenn63 said:
Ok then well you best ring up whoever is in charge of these courses and let them know the information they are giving out is incorrect.
It was a corse I chose to take instead of points after being caught doing 47mph when the limit was reduced to 40 for a ‘queue’ on a deserted M5 at 23:30.
I have only ever seen an advisory limit for queues, never a punishable reduction.
Not on smart motorways, ‘caution queue ahead’ with red circle reduced limit.
Thanks, I have to go a long way south to get to a smart motorway.
Where do you live the highlands? laugh M6 to j19 soon to be to j26 and M62 lots of smart motorway sections now.

BossHogg

6,220 posts

186 months

Friday 8th March
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Glenn63 said:
Where do you live the highlands? laugh M6 to j19 soon to be to j26 and M62 lots of smart motorway sections now.
My normal patch is Shap to Gretna, if I end up on a smart motorway on duty, something has gone spectacularly wrong! yikes

Glenn63

3,146 posts

92 months

Saturday 9th March
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BossHogg said:
Glenn63 said:
Where do you live the highlands? laugh M6 to j19 soon to be to j26 and M62 lots of smart motorway sections now.
My normal patch is Shap to Gretna, if I end up on a smart motorway on duty, something has gone spectacularly wrong! yikes
Your very fortunate in your motorway driving if that’s your main area, never go to Birmingham if you want to stay happy on the mways laugh

MustangGT

12,334 posts

288 months

Saturday 9th March
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Glenn63 said:
MustangGT said:
Glenn63 said:
MustangGT said:
Glenn63 said:
Ok then well you best ring up whoever is in charge of these courses and let them know the information they are giving out is incorrect.
It was a corse I chose to take instead of points after being caught doing 47mph when the limit was reduced to 40 for a ‘queue’ on a deserted M5 at 23:30.
I have only ever seen an advisory limit for queues, never a punishable reduction.
Not on smart motorways, ‘caution queue ahead’ with red circle reduced limit.
Thanks, I have to go a long way south to get to a smart motorway.
Where do you live the highlands? laugh M6 to j19 soon to be to j26 and M62 lots of smart motorway sections now.
North Cumbria, so the same area as BossHog.

freedman

5,914 posts

215 months

Monday 24th June
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So M20 this morning

London bound from J5/6 to the M26

All overhead smart signs indication 60mph

Bit of an issue because that entire section currently has a 50mph average speed check in place......

BlindedByTheLights

Original Poster:

1,486 posts

105 months

Monday 24th June
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freedman said:
So M20 this morning

London bound from J5/6 to the M26

All overhead smart signs indication 60mph

Bit of an issue because that entire section currently has a 50mph average speed check in place......
A right mess this morning, overheads were showing 40mph with a 50mph average in force. There was a sign saying variable speed limit ends, but generally unclear what it was even there for

BertBert

19,762 posts

219 months

Monday 24th June
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freedman said:
So M20 this morning

London bound from J5/6 to the M26

All overhead smart signs indication 60mph

Bit of an issue because that entire section currently has a 50mph average speed check in place......
Presumably the actual limit goes 50-60-50-60... with each sign then!

BlindedByTheLights

Original Poster:

1,486 posts

105 months

Monday 24th June
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BertBert said:
freedman said:
So M20 this morning

London bound from J5/6 to the M26

All overhead smart signs indication 60mph

Bit of an issue because that entire section currently has a 50mph average speed check in place......
Presumably the actual limit goes 50-60-50-60... with each sign then!
I don’t see how they could enforce any of these his section at the moment, but I’m sure it won’t stop them trying

Responder.First

124 posts

11 months

Monday 24th June
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BlindedByTheLights said:
I don’t see how they could enforce any of these his section at the moment, but I’m sure it won’t stop them trying
National Highways don't enforce limits the cameras are controlled by the Police.

The limits are set by NH but they are not always correct a case went through court a few years back were 20mph limit was left on for a long time, a court ruled they didn't care if it was wrong, we can't have the great unwashed motorists ignoring speed limits even when they are wrong due to human error!

So your statement is correct in my book.

Glenn63

3,146 posts

92 months

Tuesday 25th June
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M6 from Birmingham to J19 was 50mph the entire way for seemingly no reason what so ever the other night. This was after 10pm very light traffic.

monkfish1

12,082 posts

232 months

Tuesday 25th June
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BlindedByTheLights said:
freedman said:
So M20 this morning

London bound from J5/6 to the M26

All overhead smart signs indication 60mph

Bit of an issue because that entire section currently has a 50mph average speed check in place......
A right mess this morning, overheads were showing 40mph with a 50mph average in force. There was a sign saying variable speed limit ends, but generally unclear what it was even there for
This seems to be getting quite common. No tie up between gantries and signs on the ground in roadworks.


BlindedByTheLights

Original Poster:

1,486 posts

105 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Glenn63 said:
M6 from Birmingham to J19 was 50mph the entire way for seemingly no reason what so ever the other night. This was after 10pm very light traffic.
Budgets are low.

Patio

659 posts

19 months

Monday 8th July
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Had the pleasure of this one at the weekend

Driving in the rain on M62

From the left, arrow, 50, blank/not working, NSL

All on the same gantry

Motorway would be safer without them

liner33

10,781 posts

210 months

Monday 8th July
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Noticed that a few times on the M25 , some lanes showing NSL and others 50mph , was a new one on me , i did save my dashcam footage just in case

No ideas for a name

2,426 posts

94 months

Monday 8th July
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Patio said:


Had the pleasure of this one at the weekend

Driving in the rain on M62

From the left, arrow, 50, blank/not working, NSL

All on the same gantry

Motorway would be safer without them
Pretty sure that National Highways say this can't happen (of course we didn't believe that). I think the 'word' from them was that the limits shown must be the same.

Personally, I can't see why. Excepting the blank display that could be just broken, what would be wrong with a 'move right' arrow (probably leading to a lane closure in a few gantries time) a lowish limit next to the problem lane, and a higher speed further away.
It seems logical, but I don't think it is supposed to be possible.