Police run over calf - reasonable?
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Greendubber said:
cuprabob said:
Surely they could have got a vet with a tranquilliser gun to take of it.
Devils advocate - How many of them are available at short notice and were able to get to the scene? Do we know that no efforts were made to track one down? Pica-Pica said:
It was not ‘run’ over. Although a calf, it was still a sizeable beast. It was knocked down to contain it. All the other nonsense about herding it or calling a vet, is just that, nonsense. When cattle run amok, they can easily trample people to death.
Errr have you actually seen the video.Edited by Pica-Pica on Saturday 15th June 16:52
They rammed it.
The animal went flying.
They then hit it again and trapped it's head under the engine bay.
Zero need to do any of that, it was hardly the middle of the day or rush hour.
Somewhatfoolish said:
Mammasaid said:
WTAF???
More killed by dogs than cows, and a 6 month calf isn't the same as a field of cows with calves at foot.
Are you sure? That's very surprising. I'd far rather be with 20 random dogs than 20 random cattle. More killed by dogs than cows, and a 6 month calf isn't the same as a field of cows with calves at foot.
But I agree that one calf doesn't seem to justify this. I was trying to be balanced in the OP but may have overdone it...
Nevertheless it seems very odd they couldn't deal with this more humanely.
SmoothCriminal said:
Zero need to do any of that, it was hardly the middle of the day or rush hour.
It's West London mate, not rural Shropshire. There are people milling around, out and about, all the time. I'm a pretty vocal critic of the Met, but they're stuck between a rock and a hard place here. If they hadn't done what did, and 30 seconds later the animal runs into a mum with a kid in a pushchair, it would be "why didn't they mow the bloody thing down when they had a chance".
The policy are there to protect the public. They protected the public. If the RSPCA had run it over, you might have more of a point.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
popeyewhite said:
It's a small calf.
It may be a small calf in reality, in the countryside, but to a Londoner like me, used to seeing cats and dogs, that's a f
king big animal running around loose. I wouldn't want it running into a member of my family. It's a cow - it's going to be killed regardless
If I have the choice of being hit by a cow, whether I'm on foot, bike or car - frankly I'd rather it was killed
If you don't want your cow hurt - keep it in your field
If they hadn't stopped it and it had knocked you off your bike, possibly into the path of a car or you into a pedestrian then you'd all be saying they should have stopped it earlier
If I have the choice of being hit by a cow, whether I'm on foot, bike or car - frankly I'd rather it was killed
If you don't want your cow hurt - keep it in your field
If they hadn't stopped it and it had knocked you off your bike, possibly into the path of a car or you into a pedestrian then you'd all be saying they should have stopped it earlier
popeyewhite said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
popeyewhite said:
It's a small calf.
It may be a small calf in reality, in the countryside, but to a Londoner like me, used to seeing cats and dogs, that's a fking big animal running around loose. I wouldn't want it running into a member of my family. popeyewhite said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
popeyewhite said:
It's a small calf.
It may be a small calf in reality, in the countryside, but to a Londoner like me, used to seeing cats and dogs, that's a fking big animal running around loose. I wouldn't want it running into a member of my family. 
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Because hitting a fully grown horse with a car is possibly going to result in serious injury to the driver. So it's not really an option, is it?
Not convinced about that. Pretty sure I could take one out with a police Range Rover or X5 or whatever without risking injuring myself or members of the public. Basically by sideswiping it in a safe location. CoolHands said:
Love to see how the experts on this thread (can always rely on ph) would have contained it and led it peacefully back to a nearby field. I’m sure it was most cooperative
You don't need to be a 'expert' in anything to get three people to surround a scared animal and let it calm down. What's happened to people that they are so helpless?TwigtheWonderkid said:
Because hitting a fully grown horse with a car is possibly going to result in serious injury to the driver. So it's not really an option, is it?
Dur, they didn't want to injure the horse.The point is that the safety of the horses was the primary concern, so why in this instance did the police get all Rambo?
popeyewhite said:
Dur, they didn't want to injure the horse.
The point is that the safety of the horses was the primary concern, so why in this instance did the police get all Rambo?
Crap. The safety of the public was the primary concern. And the safety of the officers involved. Ffs, it's ludicrous to think otherwise. You think the instruction was "don't hurt the horses, no matter what. If that means people dying, so be it." The point is that the safety of the horses was the primary concern, so why in this instance did the police get all Rambo?
CoolHands said:
popeyewhite said:
You don't need to be a 'expert' in anything to get three people to surround a scared animal and let it calm down. What's happened to people that they are so helpless?
that has to be a wind up"Someone should have done something. Stood in its way, calmed it down. Not me obviously, I'm sitting in my armchair arguing on a forum, but someone else".
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