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McAndy said:
V8 GRF: you wouldn't happen to recall their original prices would you please? I have £75k, £80k and £85k in my mind for the three different options (4.0, 4.2, 4.2 s/c). Thanks. Also, any power/torque/performance stats for the 4.0? Most places quote for the proposed s/c mode @215 mph, 585 bhp etc.
Martin Brundle seems to think they're worth 75k. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAl-w6IxY5Y&fea...
ktm301p said:
Yup £75k for the T440. Given up asking for my deposit back 
When you think that Brundle's only main issue was a so so engine that's pretty good. Especially as the engine issue is fully resolved these days.
When you talk to the people who built them the amount of labour can't have meant there was much, or any, profit in these cars.
Top end price 10 years ago but a bargain today.
Excellent info, but one slight modification.
DonkeyApple said:
Some additional info I've dug out now I'm in the office:
Infact, that may not have been the original engine but, after seeing it today, I can confirm it is the engine in it now (4185cc).| Build Number | Original Colour | Original Engine CC | Original Number Plate | Number Plate Changed To: | Colour Changed To: | Current Number Plate: | Current Colour | Current Engine CC | notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0a | Red | N/A | PN 02 ZNG | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Red show car/prototype with the smaller centre console pod. This was converted to the De Walt promo car, number 91. |
| 0b | Fleetwood Bronze | 4.0 | PL 03 BXY | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | This car also had the small centre dash pod, synonomous with the prototype cars. It was driven by Brundle for his supercar video. Possibly a 2 seater as well. |
| 1 | Grey | 4.2 | N/A | LNT 3 | Grey | L5 DYJ | Unchanged | Unchanged | First road going prototype T440, essentially no different from the later cars. |
| 2 | Reflex Charcoal | 4.0 | PN 06 EHT | T14 HON | Unchanged | Unchanged | Unchanged | Unchanged | This was the first customer spec'd car but it was taken by NS to be his own and later sold. Since sold and in new hands. |
| 3 | Orange (Lamborghini?) | 4.2 SC | AF 04 BYZ | Unchanged | Unchanged | Unchanged | Unchanged | 4.0 Racing Green FFF2 NA | Again, a customer car which was ordered to Typhon spec (SC and Sequential box). Was never delivered as TVR could not get the package to work before folding. Car was recently sold and is undergoing full restoration to T440 spec (non SC, non sequential) |
| 4 | Reflex Charcoal | 4.0 | PN 06 EHX | TYP 110N | Unchanged | Unchanged | Unchanged | 4.5 TVR Power SuperSports | Only car actually delivered to a client by TVR and was the replacement for the original customer car taken by NS for personal use |
Edited by cc8s on Saturday 19th May 16:59
McAndy said:
Aha! I was about to point you to this thread but you're already here! 
Great spot by the way. I've nearly seen the lot now! Just 'old red' to go now.
Well you'll never see 'old red' as it was as it's now the non running De Walt car. Great spot by the way. I've nearly seen the lot now! Just 'old red' to go now.The original TuscanR prototype is missing from that list as well and that car no longer exists.
Much was made by PW of S6 engines more powerful than the norm ( hence the early name change from T400 to T440) and a proposed top speed of 215.
Although all the cars were built under PW's ownership by the time they left the factory it was under NS' stewardship after halting the project and they left with standard 4.0 S6 engines. And the orange one did have the SC and allegedly was recorded at over 600bhp but over heated so really wasn't useable.
Today, one has a RG FFF 4.0, another a Power 4.5 SS and the third the original engine. So normal performance is going to be inline with those units.
Where the arguable difference lies is probably firstly the aero and secondly the carbon fibre bonded chassis. With the car being designed to take PW to Le Mans it was always designed with the Mulsanne Straight in the forefront of thinking so it was designed from the outset to be stable at high speed with tested aero. What this means is that it doesn't have the Sag issue of a rear spoiler acting like an air brake or the rear diffuser like a parachute. So there is less holding it back when looking for top speed.
The chassis is far stiffer than any conventional TVR chassis so should assist in higher cornering speeds. Plus, they have the wider front track which was eventually used on the Sagaris.
So, in short, if tey are faster than other Tivs it is down to the design criteria of racing at Le Mans rather than any engine/power specifics.
Although all the cars were built under PW's ownership by the time they left the factory it was under NS' stewardship after halting the project and they left with standard 4.0 S6 engines. And the orange one did have the SC and allegedly was recorded at over 600bhp but over heated so really wasn't useable.
Today, one has a RG FFF 4.0, another a Power 4.5 SS and the third the original engine. So normal performance is going to be inline with those units.
Where the arguable difference lies is probably firstly the aero and secondly the carbon fibre bonded chassis. With the car being designed to take PW to Le Mans it was always designed with the Mulsanne Straight in the forefront of thinking so it was designed from the outset to be stable at high speed with tested aero. What this means is that it doesn't have the Sag issue of a rear spoiler acting like an air brake or the rear diffuser like a parachute. So there is less holding it back when looking for top speed.
The chassis is far stiffer than any conventional TVR chassis so should assist in higher cornering speeds. Plus, they have the wider front track which was eventually used on the Sagaris.
So, in short, if tey are faster than other Tivs it is down to the design criteria of racing at Le Mans rather than any engine/power specifics.
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