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DonkeyApple

54,923 posts

168 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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V8 GRF said:
I wasn't suggesting they will or should build it 9I'm not a fan either) I was answering the question about where the moulds are likely to be.

As regards to what they build I hope they move on and build something totally new, the Sagaris while impactful is outdated now.
It would be silly not to be something new but so long as it is smelly, loud and unrefined.

Rookeryfarmer

3 posts

129 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Rookeryfarmer said:
I know where the 'old red' is..... the website on the picture of the Dewalt car will give you a clue
The Dewalt car is now down at TVR101 for a refurb and will hope fully be put on the road!! www.tvr101.co.uk

MH Dneg

152 posts

133 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Really don't want to be upsetting anybody here, but surely the Dewalt car should be put back on the track and not changed into a road car!

Sorry!

Matt

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

209 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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MH Dneg said:
Really don't want to be upsetting anybody here, but surely the Dewalt car should be put back on the track and not changed into a road car!

Sorry!

Matt
That Dewalt car was never a race car. It was the Cherry red development car painted to look like a racer for promotional purposes.

MH Dneg

152 posts

133 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Phew...thank goodness for that!

I can calm down now...

alphaone

1,019 posts

172 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Charlie Michael

2,750 posts

183 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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alphaone said:
My my my that is a pretty stunning car. cloud9

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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No longer for sale, the owner has taken it home I believe.

DonkeyApple

54,923 posts

168 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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DonkeyApple said:
DonkeyApple said:
Some additional info I've dug out now I'm in the office:

Build Number Original Colour Original Engine CC Original Number Plate Number Plate Changed To: Colour Changed To: Current Number Plate: Current Colour Current Engine CC notes
0a Red N/A PN 02 ZNG N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A Red show car/prototype with the smaller centre console pod. This was converted to the De Walt promo car, number 91.
0b Fleetwood Bronze 4.0 PL 03 BXY N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A This car also had the small centre dash pod, synonomous with the prototype cars. It was driven by Brundle for his supercar video. Possibly a 2 seater as well.
1 Grey 4.2 N/A LNT 3 Grey L5 DYJ Unchanged Unchanged First road going prototype T440, essentially no different from the later cars.
2 Reflex Charcoal 4.0 PN 06 EHT T14 HON Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged This was the first customer spec'd car but it was taken by NS to be his own and later sold. Since sold and in new hands.
3 Orange (Lamborghini?) 4.0 SC AF 04 BYZ Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged 4.0 Racing Green FFF2 NA Again, a customer car which was ordered to Typhon spec (SC and Sequential box). Was never delivered as TVR could not get the package to work before folding. Car was recently sold and is undergoing full restoration to T440 spec (non SC, non sequential)
4 Reflex Charcoal 4.0 PN 06 EHX TYP 110N Unchanged Unchanged Unchanged 4.5 TVR Power SuperSports Only car actually delivered to a client by TVR and was the replacement for the original customer car taken by NS for personal use



The two prototype cars were essentially the same but the red one was originally badged T400R and the Fleetwood one T440R. From memory this was once explained as being done so that the T400 race cars could be homologated for Le Mans, or similar. Both were on show at the 2002 Motor Show. It is believed that the Red one was a 4 seater while the Fleetwood one was a 2 seater with the long range fuel tank. These were the two proposed customer offerings.

Later, TVR claimed these cars would have either 440BHP NA and the red car was later rebadged as a T440R accordingly. They also announced that there would be a supercharged option with a sequential gearbox called the Typhon.

During PW's stewardship the cars for customers settled on this nomenclature. However the only ever car ordered by a customer to Typhon spec (the orange one) was never delivered due to problems in getting the supercharger to not overheat and the sequential box to not lock up at speed!!!.

When NS took control of the company, the supercharger and sequential box project was ultimately halted and the T440R name dropped and the model simply became the Typhon.

It was thought that the Fleetwood car eventually became the grey T440 but this now does not appear to be the case. There are stories of it being cut up and another recent story that it is in Austria, although that car is believed to actually be the Sagaris II. We hope to be able to find the ultimate answer shortly after speaking again with some of the ex factory and race guys as all of these cars were built by a small group, many of whom are still working at or near the site.

The very first iteration of these cars was the purple, 2 seater Tuscan R with the different rear end. This has been confirmed by the people who built them at the factory as being cut up and destroyed as per the law:


The same car but with a colour change for the 2000 motorshow:


The race cars of which we believe there to have been 7 or 8 were a mixture of these two designs, depending on when they were built but the majority were the latter design with at least 2 (the LNT cars) having wider arches than standard. But the race cars a whole different subject!!!!

I don't think any of the owners would mind this info going up as it is all public domain but please feel free to modify any errors or remove details about your cars if you are not happy. Original spec and build order came from the people at the factory who built them and ran the project.

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Edited by DonkeyApple on Saturday 27th August 10:13
A rather interesting snippet of gossip that will hopefully interest the T400/T440/Typhon fans:

The original homologation car PN02, the car that featured in the EVO article run down to Le Mans and also featured by Clarkson is going to be returned to its former glory as per its motor show reveal:



As far as I am aware, TVR101 are going to project manage the restoration in conjunction with key people who were originally involved in the T400R race cars, so if someone has always wanted one of these extremely rare and unique cars and wanted to go through the restoration process as I did with mine then there is a bit of a golden opportunity about to appear for someone.

A little more info on the car here: http://tvrtyphon.info/history/

MikeE

1,826 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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I was talking to Woody about this on Saturday, it's a very tempting opportunity!

I'm a bit confused by your table above, surely the last car was yours but you have it as Reflex Charcoal and no colour change?

DonkeyApple

54,923 posts

168 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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I did the table based on road registration, if I recall.

They were basically all made at the same time but were finished and road registered at different times with Jon’s being the last to get a number plate, or possibly the Smolenski one which was painted and trimmed after Jon’s when Smollenski saw it in the factory and wanted it but as it had already been assigned to the client they took one of the others and redid it to the same spec. It is my belief that that car is the missing Fleetwood Brown T440 bit there are no facts to support that view justs variois bits of a jigsaw puzzle.

As for PN02, I think it’s a tremendous opportunity for an enthusiast.

BarnFind

492 posts

145 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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BarnFind said:
That is simply stunning.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Welshbeef said:
That is simply stunning.
Are you being serious?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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TVRMs said:
Welshbeef said:
That is simply stunning.
Are you being serious?
To me that looks stunning

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Welshbeef said:
TVRMs said:
Welshbeef said:
That is simply stunning.
Are you being serious?
To me that looks stunning
smile Can't argue that one smile

cc8s

4,209 posts

202 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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By any chance does anyone have pictures of PN06 EHW?

DVLA notes as a Tuscan, but it is the same for some Typhons. Interested incase it has not been checked.

DonkeyApple

54,923 posts

168 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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PN06EHT & EHX we're the two reflex charcoal Typhons.





They were the final two cars. The orange one being an 04.

I can't specifically recall my V5 but they weren't logged as Typhons or T440s if I remember correctly. They were Sags or Tuscans on the form I think.


s6boy

1,613 posts

224 months

Friday 12th January
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According to Drivetribe the T440 was capable of 215mph! While I'd eat anyone's choice of hat if that was proven it does look as though some thought's gone into making it more aerodynamic.
Video out recently on YouTube.

DonkeyApple

54,923 posts

168 months

Friday 12th January
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s6boy said:
According to Drivetribe the T440 was capable of 215mph! While I'd eat anyone's choice of hat if that was proven it does look as though some thought's gone into making it more aerodynamic.
Video out recently on YouTube.
It was the only TVR to see a wind tunnel and it was designed to be stable at speed rather than being a wing. When I took mine down to GMD for Murray to look over as they designed the new Griffith he commented that someone had copied his designs and indeed, Chris Runciman who had been the lead engineer on the racing project had previously said to me that he had referenced GM when designing the intakes etc.

Would it do 215? Not with any engine that ever came out of TVR. I got mine close to 200 and it certainly felt safer than my Griff or T350 ever had, both of which began to get twitchy from 120 upwards. I still have fond memories of the Griff lifting the front wheels on a dash to Calais!!!

I suspect that number was a theoretical number from the tunnel testing. I don't think it was ever a number achieved by the factory in reality. But these were Le Mans race cars and the race cars did show that it probably wasn't a pure theoretical number.