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Jungles hasn't been a CC for a long time, though he did resign/step down (as he disagreed with a lot of what Wargaming.net were doing at the time) so they still work with him on events - though with his number of subscribers I think they so not have much of a choice. Not sure about Flambass - thought he was kicked then re-invited post a community fuss but refused to go back (or am I thinking of someone else).
Watching the various youtube streams - Jingles, Flamu, Flambass,etc - used to be enjoyable and even educational, however there's little fun in them now because the 'state of the game' always comes up.
Flamu has been getting really toxic and sarcastic recently. Losing the CC status is entirely predictable given they are supposed to work with WG to promote and develop the game. Maybe they have tried and their views and concerns have been ignored? I do like his sarcastic delivery. I saw a quote that claimed the other cc's and testers had been banned from discussing the Flamu removal.
I look at it that this could be the natural end for a certain generation of players as WG now look to make money from the new generation that have joined the game during the covid lockdown. At the end of the day it's supposed to be a game, to be enjoyed but there doesn't seem to be much joy in the game right now.
Since the captain rework my secondary spec Bismarck has been parked up. Günther Lütjens must be in a bar somewhere.
Playing something like Fiji or Edinburgh just means you get 'dead-eye'd' from 22km away as your team also sit at the back offering zero support.
I've been mainly playing dd's, no interest in playing the bb sniping game.
I even played a couple of co-op games looking for a good yolo gun battle and the bb's were even hiding at the back in co-op!
Fortunately I've never spent any money on the game.
Flamu has been getting really toxic and sarcastic recently. Losing the CC status is entirely predictable given they are supposed to work with WG to promote and develop the game. Maybe they have tried and their views and concerns have been ignored? I do like his sarcastic delivery. I saw a quote that claimed the other cc's and testers had been banned from discussing the Flamu removal.
I look at it that this could be the natural end for a certain generation of players as WG now look to make money from the new generation that have joined the game during the covid lockdown. At the end of the day it's supposed to be a game, to be enjoyed but there doesn't seem to be much joy in the game right now.
Since the captain rework my secondary spec Bismarck has been parked up. Günther Lütjens must be in a bar somewhere.
Playing something like Fiji or Edinburgh just means you get 'dead-eye'd' from 22km away as your team also sit at the back offering zero support.
I've been mainly playing dd's, no interest in playing the bb sniping game.
I even played a couple of co-op games looking for a good yolo gun battle and the bb's were even hiding at the back in co-op!
Fortunately I've never spent any money on the game.
I'd not played that much for the last year or two. I've since come back and played a LOT more co-op and found it to be a much more fun game. The tension and toxicity just doesn't exist there. Sure, the grind is slow as hell but you can have a lot of fun just piling in and brawling. Fortunately I'd not seen people hanging back too much.
I've stopped since the captain rework though I've been tempted to bring a DD out and hope there's no CVs - the awareness skill now being a 2 pointer and location finder now being dropped is rather a big issue though.
On Wargamming and the CCs working together - Wargamming.net were meant to have been getting feedback on both the carrier rework, the further adjustments, and new German DDs, the new Soviet cruisers, and the captain skills rework and decided to ignore the lot and go with what they had originally planned to do. Give it 6 months and Soviet CVs will be announced with Slava type armour, German style secondaries, AP bombs, HEAP rockets and self guided torps - oh and they will also have hydro and depth charges (for when the subs are added to the game) - oh and there will be a preioum tier 10 available from the start...
On Wargamming and the CCs working together - Wargamming.net were meant to have been getting feedback on both the carrier rework, the further adjustments, and new German DDs, the new Soviet cruisers, and the captain skills rework and decided to ignore the lot and go with what they had originally planned to do. Give it 6 months and Soviet CVs will be announced with Slava type armour, German style secondaries, AP bombs, HEAP rockets and self guided torps - oh and they will also have hydro and depth charges (for when the subs are added to the game) - oh and there will be a preioum tier 10 available from the start...
I am still playing my secondary Massa an awful lot and actually it's still a lot of fun; due to a lot of deadeye BBs hanging back, you end up brawling with DDs and cruisers which is quite entertaining. I play support for my DDs a lot which gives enemy DDs a shock when the secs open up from over 11km.
BrettMRC said:
I generally only play T3-7 in randoms now, means you don't have to worry about the T10 try hards etc - most people are just enjoying themselves.
Current ranked season seems very laid back too.
Perhaps I should try the same - suspect DD is a more suicidal option now as you won't know when you're spotted.Current ranked season seems very laid back too.
One thing Flamu mentioned that people should be aware of - there's been a developers blog in Russian where they say they are going to rework the Dead Eye skill - suspect there will not be free respecs if/when it is done.
dapprman said:
Perhaps I should try the same - suspect DD is a more suicidal option now as you won't know when you're spotted.
One thing Flamu mentioned that people should be aware of - there's been a developers blog in Russian where they say they are going to rework the Dead Eye skill - suspect there will not be free respecs if/when it is done.
Take that devblog rumour with a pinch of salt as I believe MrConway has recently stated that if its enough of a change there will be a free re-spec.One thing Flamu mentioned that people should be aware of - there's been a developers blog in Russian where they say they are going to rework the Dead Eye skill - suspect there will not be free respecs if/when it is done.
Not sure what you mean for DD's? It's tougher out there for them. Just be more aware than ever of radar-cruiser positioning & react accordingly. Yes, easier said than done!
Digger said:
Take that devblog rumour with a pinch of salt as I believe MrConway has recently stated that if its enough of a change there will be a free re-spec.
Not sure what you mean for DD's? It's tougher out there for them. Just be more aware than ever of radar-cruiser positioning & react accordingly. Yes, easier said than done!
On the plus side at a higher level less radar cruisers, also just read that situational awareness is now a freebie, on the down side, priority target is now a 2 point skill and hard to fit in to a build and as a whole DDs were nerfed with the reworking. I think lower down actually could be tougher.Not sure what you mean for DD's? It's tougher out there for them. Just be more aware than ever of radar-cruiser positioning & react accordingly. Yes, easier said than done!
Perhaps time to bring my Kamikaze out - can't remember how many points the my captain has(12 I think).
dapprman said:
Digger said:
Take that devblog rumour with a pinch of salt as I believe MrConway has recently stated that if its enough of a change there will be a free re-spec.
Not sure what you mean for DD's? It's tougher out there for them. Just be more aware than ever of radar-cruiser positioning & react accordingly. Yes, easier said than done!
On the plus side at a higher level less radar cruisers, also just read that situational awareness is now a freebie, on the down side, priority target is now a 2 point skill and hard to fit in to a build and as a whole DDs were nerfed with the reworking. I think lower down actually could be tougher.Not sure what you mean for DD's? It's tougher out there for them. Just be more aware than ever of radar-cruiser positioning & react accordingly. Yes, easier said than done!
Perhaps time to bring my Kamikaze out - can't remember how many points the my captain has(12 I think).
I'm finding it increasingly more frustrating to play as time goes on . . .
Digger said:
Take that devblog rumour with a pinch of salt as I believe MrConway has recently stated that if its enough of a change there will be a free
I suspect that, having had yet another grubby scheme exposed, they may change tack rather than prove Flamu right. The Makarov Satan crates at Christmas really underscored how little respect WG have for their customers now. I would not put anything past WG these days.
Digger said:
I'm guessing that you haven't played much recently, including high tiers? Situational Awareness has been baked in to the game client for more than a few years. There are also several 12km radar-equipped cruisers to contend with at high tiers unfortunately.
I'm finding it increasingly more frustrating to play as time goes on . . .
More I just started using Priority Target on all my ships that i never noticed the change (aside from on my Shima which I rarely played)I'm finding it increasingly more frustrating to play as time goes on . . .
Drive Blind said:
Flamu has been getting really toxic and sarcastic recently. Losing the CC status is entirely predictable given they are supposed to work with WG to promote and develop the game. Maybe they have tried and their views and concerns have been ignored? I do like his sarcastic delivery. I saw a quote that claimed the other cc's and testers had been banned from discussing the Flamu removal.
Flamu's "quittng" video discussed this, he said the WG just do not listen to CC's, at all. The example he gave was that he would watch a new CC arrive, all hopeful that WG would listen as they created long posts on the CC forums about how to improve the game and then, after a few months of being ignored, the new CC's just stopped posting any more as they realised WG didn't give a crap.I'd been playing for 5 years but taken a break after CV-Rework fiasco only to restart about 6 months later but, whilst I'm not sick of the core game exactly, I'm really am sick to death of WG and their constant attempts at harming the game in an attempt to cull more experienced players (who typically have already spent their money) and replace them with new players who are only seen as cash-cows ready to milked.
I get that WG are a business but there's got to be a balance between creating a fun game and milking fans so that everyone benefits and, for the first 2-3 years WG had an "OK" balance, only now they've gone full bat-poop crazy and it's going to kill the game.
Tankrizzo said:
I've been watching some of the Yuro videos to alleviate some of the frustrations with the game, I'd forgotten how funny that guy is. Was cracking up watching his video about how to play the Smolensk 
That a new video ? Might have to check - I used to be subscribed to Yuro but decided I was not enjoying his non 'How To' videos - even the torpedo beats ones and as I was seeing too many videos to watch per day he was dropped as my cut back on channels.dapprman said:
That a new video ? Might have to check - I used to be subscribed to Yuro but decided I was not enjoying his non 'How To' videos - even the torpedo beats ones and as I was seeing too many videos to watch per day he was dropped as my cut back on channels.
Nah it's an older one, still gets me though!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGyl1ORj3J0
Tankrizzo said:
dapprman said:
That a new video ? Might have to check - I used to be subscribed to Yuro but decided I was not enjoying his non 'How To' videos - even the torpedo beats ones and as I was seeing too many videos to watch per day he was dropped as my cut back on channels.
Nah it's an older one, still gets me though!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGyl1ORj3J0
Harder than people realise to get used to as BBs and CAs lunch on you from range, added to which the shell velocity is on the flatter side - great close up against heavier ships (as seen in Yuro's video) but means island hugging is a lot harder.
Once you're used to it, or if you are ignored ..... - your real damage is from fire unless another ship gives you a close in broadside, but you're unlucky if you do not start a fire on your target within ~10 seconds of blatting. Also smoke can be very effective for you if there's no risk of torps. My first time out in my Thunderer I was targeted by two Smolensk and a Minotaur, all in the same smoke with them taking turns to renewing it - 1 DD per side and they had already seen each other on the other side of the map. I was shredded and burnt down in next to no time (though the fact I came 5th for my team in the final battle stats while being the first to be sunk also says more than a little of how well my side worked together...)
Once you're used to it, or if you are ignored ..... - your real damage is from fire unless another ship gives you a close in broadside, but you're unlucky if you do not start a fire on your target within ~10 seconds of blatting. Also smoke can be very effective for you if there's no risk of torps. My first time out in my Thunderer I was targeted by two Smolensk and a Minotaur, all in the same smoke with them taking turns to renewing it - 1 DD per side and they had already seen each other on the other side of the map. I was shredded and burnt down in next to no time (though the fact I came 5th for my team in the final battle stats while being the first to be sunk also says more than a little of how well my side worked together...)
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