Gaming PCs Thread...time for a sticky / running thread?

Gaming PCs Thread...time for a sticky / running thread?

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HM-2

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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130R said:
u6dw4 said:
which is what i;'m trying to decide (see above). Buying new though, not upgrading.
Buying new I would definitely go with AMD 7000 series. That gives you an upgrade path whereas anything else doesn't.
100% buying new I would look at 7000 series, for my own use case a 7900X. The 10940X build posted was horrendously mismatched, it didn't even have quad channel RAM specced. The 7700X one is much better.

scjgreen

577 posts

134 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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130R said:
u6dw4 said:
which is what i;'m trying to decide (see above). Buying new though, not upgrading.
Buying new I would definitely go with AMD 7000 series. That gives you an upgrade path whereas anything else doesn't.
A 5800X3D yields around 12K as a CPU Score in 3D Mark
The 7900X (Non 3D) scores 17.5-18K so quite a difference tbh.

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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scjgreen said:
A 5800X3D yields around 12K as a CPU Score in 3D Mark
The 7900X (Non 3D) scores 17.5-18K so quite a difference tbh.
That's the multi-core performance. Most games just use single-core



Edited by 130R on Sunday 2nd April 17:07

HM-2

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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130R said:
hat's the multi-core performance. Most games just use single-core



Edited by 130R on Sunday 2nd April 17:07
Not quite correct, most games use ~4-6 cores. Why h is why the X3D performs as well as it does.

scjgreen

577 posts

134 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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130R said:
scjgreen said:
A 5800X3D yields around 12K as a CPU Score in 3D Mark
The 7900X (Non 3D) scores 17.5-18K so quite a difference tbh.
That's the multi-core performance. Most games just use single-core



Edited by 130R on Sunday 2nd April 17:07
Try playing TLOU... 100% CPU usage with every core pegged and yet the GPU is sat at 80%

HM-2

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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scjgreen said:
Try playing TLOU... 100% CPU usage with every core pegged and yet the GPU is sat at 80%
TLOU is well known as a completely atrocious port. More processing power won't significantly help you.

u6dw4

59 posts

24 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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within budget, looking at:

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz-5.6GHz/76MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard ASUS® PRIME B650-PLUS (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM) 32GB PCS PRO DDR5 4800MHz (1 x 32GB)
Graphics Card 12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR

scjgreen

577 posts

134 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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u6dw4 said:
within budget, looking at:

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 12 Core CPU (4.7GHz-5.6GHz/76MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard ASUS® PRIME B650-PLUS (DDR5, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM) 32GB PCS PRO DDR5 4800MHz (1 x 32GB)
Graphics Card 12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
My friend is running the exact same setup apart from hes got a 7900X3D.

Seems to do very well

trashbat

6,006 posts

153 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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Probably a minor detail but you might be better off with 2x16GB sticks. Unlike older memory, DDR5 is dual channel even on a single stick but it still seems like two sticks perform best.

u6dw4

59 posts

24 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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the reason to get 1 x 32gb was to upgrade to 64gb later.



MissChief

7,106 posts

168 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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u6dw4 said:
the reason to get 1 x 32gb was to upgrade to 64gb later.
64Gb I don’t see being necessary for a gaming PC before 2030 and even then you’ll have changed everything at least once, maybe even twice by then.

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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I would not buy 1 stick now and 1 stick later even if they are exactly the same serial code sold by the same retailer, the silicon can be different. For example the first could be Micron silicon the other Nanya or Samsung and they may not work well together. Always buy RAM as a pack.

I'd focus on faster RAM 4800Mhz is the base RAM. If you look at faster RAM check the memory compatibility page on the motherboards website. Turning on EXPO for faster RAM speeds is hit and miss if it's not officially supported by the board. Also don't assume the board can run 4 sticks of RAM at EXPO speeds if it can run 2 (for later upgrades).

u6dw4

59 posts

24 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Ordered.

It's replacing a old PC which is not really working anymore, when it's running I can sort out the details later, if it means replacing all the memory I will do that, I will have more budget later this year (mostly house renovations which limit what I can spend), it was all cost compromise but getting the CPU right was most important.

Thanks for everyone's help / advice.

Edited by u6dw4 on Wednesday 5th April 18:44

scjgreen

577 posts

134 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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Just ordered Upgrade to go with my 4080 Today smile

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D
ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F Motherboard
2 x 16G Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000 C36

Should keep me going for the next couple of years.

If anyone is looking for an MSI AM4 Board, 5900X and 32GB RAM i'll be selling shortly

MissChief

7,106 posts

168 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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scjgreen said:
Just ordered Upgrade to go with my 4080 Today smile

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D
ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F Motherboard
2 x 16G Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000 C36

Should keep me going for the next couple of years.

If anyone is looking for an MSI AM4 Board, 5900X and 32GB RAM i'll be selling shortly
Which MSI board? And how much will you be looking for?

scjgreen

577 posts

134 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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It's an X570 Gaming Edge Wifi.

Drop me a PM if you're interested smile

MissChief

7,106 posts

168 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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scjgreen said:
It's an X570 Gaming Edge Wifi.

Drop me a PM if you're interested smile
Email sent

robbiekhan

1,466 posts

177 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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HM-2 said:
TLOU is well known as a completely atrocious port. More processing power won't significantly help you.
It's MUCH better since patch 1.0.4.1 - It is actually completely playable on a 3080 Ti where I was getting frame drops before, of of said patch though it's always 85fps or above using DLSS Quality or FSR Quality. Even with DLSS/FSR disabled it's still in the 80+ range purely because the engine isn't fully CPU optimised yet, but the GPU use has improved now so the framerates are consistent where they were not in the past. I'm playing at 3440x1440 ultra settings for reference with a 12700KF.

I now have a 4090 and the game runs at the same fps.(a bit higher in most places) which indicates a lack of optimisation on the whole. You can disable DLSS/FSR and then enable the resolution scaling to say 120% and still get the same framerates whilst making use of the scaling AA afforded by using the feature in game whne on a higher end GPU. Just make sure enough VRAM is available...

u6dw4

59 posts

24 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Have new pc but got no sound; I've tried everything, nothing works.

EDIT: WIN 11.


FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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u6dw4 said:
Have new pc but got no sound; I've tried everything, nothing works.

EDIT: WIN 11.
Right click the volume icon in the tool tray bottom right, select sound settings, check that your selected sound output device is selected, speakers, or headphones whatever you use.

If it is and you still have no sound, do a PC restart and check again.


Do you have an Asus motherboard?