Forza Horizon 4

[Shinysideup]

BadOrangePete said:

That Mx5/tune is mint, took 4 seconds off the Eclipse's time. Left it for dead on the straights, its sketchier under hard braking though!

Wheels look alright if you paint the centres like a classic RR wheel

Nice one, good to hear. It got me from a 2:54 with the Eclipse to a 2:48 so far.

I will try a few more runs with it and probably revise it and share again.

[miniman]

Shinysideup said:

BadOrangePete said:

That Mx5/tune is mint, took 4 seconds off the Eclipse's time. Left it for dead on the straights, its sketchier under hard braking though!

Wheels look alright if you paint the centres like a classic RR wheel

Nice one, good to hear. It got me from a 2:54 with the Eclipse to a 2:48 so far.

I will try a few more runs with it and probably revise it and share again.

Doesn't like turning in though does it?

What's the base configuration? Always feels a shame it's not possible to see the tune details but understand why it works that way. Is it an engine conversion (sounds like supercharger)? Full weight reduction? Which tyres?

[ajprice]

Looks like I've got an MX-5 to build properly and get the hang of tonight. Trueno, you did well til now.

[Shinysideup]

miniman said:

Doesn't like turning in though does it?

What's the base configuration? Always feels a shame it's not possible to see the tune details but understand why it works that way. Is it an engine conversion (sounds like supercharger)? Full weight reduction? Which tyres?

That's not its strong point, you have to forgo luxuries such as steering to go fast

I've been through a couple more revisions now to stabilise it more on the brakes and help initial turn in and rotation.

If you want a base to do your own...

2L VVT, Supercharged, bit of chassis reinforcement, weight reduction, Wanlee ditchfinder remoulds, 4wd/adj diff. Aero kit.

Edit: Whichever setup you go for (ultra light n/a or forced induction etc) you will have to get used to rubbish tyres or it wont be quick enough.

Edited by Shinysideup on Friday 5th March 08:44

[miniman]

Shinysideup said:

That's not its strong point, you have to forgo luxuries such as steering to go fast

I've been through a couple more revisions now to stabilise it more on the brakes and help initial turn in and rotation.

If you want a base to do your own...

2L VVT, Supercharged, bit of chassis reinforcement, weight reduction, Wanlee ditchfinder remoulds, 4wd/adj diff. Aero kit.

Interesting, thanks, I've never really bothered with chassis reinforcement. Might try RWD version.

[Drabbesttunic]

Shinysideup said:

miniman said:

Doesn't like turning in though does it?

What's the base configuration? Always feels a shame it's not possible to see the tune details but understand why it works that way. Is it an engine conversion (sounds like supercharger)? Full weight reduction? Which tyres?

That's not its strong point, you have to forgo luxuries such as steering to go fast

I've been through a couple more revisions now to stabilise it more on the brakes and help initial turn in and rotation.

If you want a base to do your own...

2L VVT, Supercharged, bit of chassis reinforcement, weight reduction, Wanlee ditchfinder remoulds, 4wd/adj diff. Aero kit.

Edit: Whichever setup you go for (ultra light n/a or forced induction etc) you will have to get used to rubbish tyres or it wont be quick enough.

Edited by Shinysideup on Friday 5th March 08:44

Its certainly fast enough, the time I set is with my own mx5 that handles like a dream, I'll try again with yours but really struggled with no grip to actually get it over the line

[Shinysideup]

miniman said:

Interesting, thanks, I've never really bothered with chassis reinforcement. Might try RWD version.

You can sometimes apply a little reinforcement to get more mechanical grip without a big weight penalty but it depends on the overall weight of your build.
It's a massive balancing act. Each tweak you make just keep an eye on the lateral grip level change and how it affects the weight.

You could perhaps achieve more gain elsewhere by fitting wider tyres but at more weight or PI cost or vice versa

[Shinysideup]

Drabbesttunic said:

Its certainly fast enough, the time I set is with my own mx5 that handles like a dream, I'll try again with yours but really struggled with no grip to actually get it over the line

If you get bored or stuck i've added a #2 tune which is a bit more forgiving but can go under 2:50

[miniman]

Drabbesttunic said:

Its certainly fast enough, the time I set is with my own mx5 that handles like a dream, I'll try again with yours but really struggled with no grip to actually get it over the line

I did 3 fast runs back to back (one of them better than my current time) and scraped the wall as crossing the line each time

[Speed1283]

vonuber said:

Season 3
Round 9 of 16
Elmsdon on Sea Sprint, Retro Sports Cars, B665, Any Mods, Any Assists, standing start only

As of 00:00:



Top ten above blue line. 16th to choose next week as shown.

Only managed one go, I am really strapped for time this week.

Yay, I'm still just about in the top 5 with the trusty RX7, haven't had chance these last few days, think this will be a weekend one for me. Going to have to pull something out of the bag to get top three, incredible times by you all.

[CT25]

Shinysideup said:

You can sometimes apply a little reinforcement to get more mechanical grip without a big weight penalty but it depends on the overall weight of your build.
It's a massive balancing act. Each tweak you make just keep an eye on the lateral grip level change and how it affects the weight.

You could perhaps achieve more gain elsewhere by fitting wider tyres but at more weight or PI cost or vice versa

I went with lots of weight and lots of power (all relative, bearing in mind it’s an MX-5)

Shared my tune if anyone fancies a go. Managed a flagged 2:47.53. Clipped the barrier about a metre before the finish line.

[brad93]

Think this is the highest up the leaderboard I’ve been this new season! Gonna try and put a slightly quicker time in as I’ve got a couple seconds left in my time, need some points on the board!

[Cutters]

CT25 said:

Shinysideup said:

You can sometimes apply a little reinforcement to get more mechanical grip without a big weight penalty but it depends on the overall weight of your build.
It's a massive balancing act. Each tweak you make just keep an eye on the lateral grip level change and how it affects the weight.

You could perhaps achieve more gain elsewhere by fitting wider tyres but at more weight or PI cost or vice versa

I went with lots of weight and lots of power (all relative, bearing in mind it’s an MX-5)

Shared my tune if anyone fancies a go. Managed a flagged 2:47.53. Clipped the barrier about a metre before the finish line.

I’ve hit that plenty of times, crazily frustrating as you can hit the barriers quite hard all the way round and it doesn’t flag. Even dare to glance at that one and it kills your lap!

I’ll share my tune when I get home later on, love the different approach everyone has so I’ll try yours as well, I’ve gone for moderate (about 250ish iirc) power and as light as I could get it

ETA - tune shared

Edited by Cutters on Friday 5th March 16:40

[Shinysideup]

Cutters said:

I’ve hit that plenty of times, crazily frustrating as you can hit the barriers quite hard all the way round and it doesn’t flag. Even dare to glance at that one and it kills your lap!

I’ll share my tune when I get home later on, love the different approach everyone has so I’ll try yours as well, I’ve gone for moderate (about 250ish iirc) power and as light as I could get it

ETA - tune shared

One of the good things about this thread is getting an insight into how others are building their cars.
I think it's probably easy to go down the route that you would always normally go and end up perhaps trying to drive around issues with your own car.

Will be neat to try different approaches. Will report back

Cheers CT & Cutters

[Drabbesttunic]

I've turned it off for today but can share my tune too, I'd like to see what it does with a better driver.

I just can't get on with the mx5 you shared, I tried ct25s too but thats similar, I dont seem to be able to drive around the handling.
I dont think top ten is doable for me, I've got 1.2 secs to bridge to aj.

[vacant-100]

Drabbesttunic said:

Great, the hardest danger sign of all, 7ft short, bd.

This one's always one of the hardest to hit right, couldn't get anywhere close in the Hoonigan RS200 so had to revert to the trusty Ferrari 599XX Evo. Try and hit the jump around 160mph and you should do it, but it takes a lot of rewinding to line it up right.

[Shinysideup]

After a quick 5 laps with each different tune, Cutters - Yours is similar feeling to my #2 version. Balance is good and it feels like you can nail the power quite early mid-turn/exit. CT25 - The inline 6 build is a wild beast that needs a lot of focus to tame. I would need more laps with it to go faster overall.

Excellent laps by both of you.

[Drabbesttunic]

vacant-100 said:

Drabbesttunic said:

Great, the hardest danger sign of all, 7ft short, bd.

This one's always one of the hardest to hit right, couldn't get anywhere close in the Hoonigan RS200 so had to revert to the trusty Ferrari 599XX Evo. Try and hit the jump around 160mph and you should do it, but it takes a lot of rewinding to line it up right.

I managed to completely destroy the target by about 150ft by fluking a jump using the king cobra

[CT25]

Shinysideup said:

After a quick 5 laps with each different tune, Cutters - Yours is similar feeling to my #2 version. Balance is good and it feels like you can nail the power quite early mid-turn/exit. CT25 - The inline 6 build is a wild beast that needs a lot of focus to tame. I would need more laps with it to go faster overall.

Excellent laps by both of you.

Just tried Cutters tune. Like you say, you can be on the power so early!

Cutters - you have really nailed some of the turns in the last half of the lap. Especially the downhill right hand bend after the last long straight-ish bit. If i’m ahead on entry, by the exit you are a couple of car lengths ahead and just pulling away.

[Speed1283]

CT25 said:

Shinysideup said:

After a quick 5 laps with each different tune, Cutters - Yours is similar feeling to my #2 version. Balance is good and it feels like you can nail the power quite early mid-turn/exit. CT25 - The inline 6 build is a wild beast that needs a lot of focus to tame. I would need more laps with it to go faster overall.

Excellent laps by both of you.

Just tried Cutters tune. Like you say, you can be on the power so early!

Cutters - you have really nailed some of the turns in the last half of the lap. Especially the downhill right hand bend after the last long straight-ish bit. If i’m ahead on entry, by the exit you are a couple of car lengths ahead and just pulling away.

I haven't tried others tunes yet but built my first MX5 last night and tried a few different things this morning. For me I think the 6 cylinder engine suits me best, not sure why, on stats it should be slower but in practice (for me anyway) it seems better. That being said, I've not achieved very much consistency, I can easily lose a number of car lengths to my own ghost by the end of the first two corners!