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paolow said:
Dont get me wrong, the 'native' quest games are great - but compared to Alyx - to be honest the gulf is huge. It is SUCH a good game. I was talking to a friend at work recently and reasoned that the 'native' games were good - but i had REALLY got my moneys worth with Alyx.
TL/DR Effectively I spent £200 for a game experience in 2012 (or whatever) and didnt regret it. I spent double that (plus) to play alyx. No regrets there also. It really is a great experience. If you are 'in the middle' for $60 - well - you can see where I am going.
Yep, when you first play something like HL:Alyx on the Quest 2 headset, it's just jaw-droppingly superior to what the built-in hardware can do.TL/DR Effectively I spent £200 for a game experience in 2012 (or whatever) and didnt regret it. I spent double that (plus) to play alyx. No regrets there also. It really is a great experience. If you are 'in the middle' for $60 - well - you can see where I am going.
That said, the built-in hardware is absolutely fine for a lot of simpler games and makes for a really excellent 'pick up and play' experience. It's roughly on par with PSVR for games ... but with much better graphical fidelity (higher res panel, generally better refresh rates).
The great thing about Quest though is the ability to use it either standalone or on a PC. Best of both Worlds IMO.
Even using it wirelessly I don't have an issue with VR streaming from PC ... and there are not a whole lot of wireless headset solutions for PC. I didn't have many problems getting the wireless to work either ... PC was already cabled to my router and I just had to 'lock' my headset to the main disc of my BT whole home mesh setup. Virtual Desktop is way easier to use than the wired Oculus Link IMO, it's a superb system.
Quest 2 is by far the best value headset. I have a Vive pro, Pimax Artisan & a 5K+. The Quest gets used the most as it's standalone although software can be a bit pricey (there's daily deals and cheap/free games on sidequest though). Plenty of free stuff and experiences in the oculus store. Virtual desktop will soon be redundant as the latest update has it built in.
If your PC is powerful enough then VR software can be had quite cheaply in bundles from Fanatical & Humble bundle plus there's free stuff on steam. Serious Sam in VR is a hoot.
The only drawback is it's only possible with a facebook account. Plenty of hardly used Quest 2's on facebook marketplace where they have been bought and nausea has been experienced. Highly recommend getting a vive DAS with clips although if you're handy a headset from a duff PSVR can be adapted, even straps from welders helmets have been used. It takes a while to get used to VR but there's some breathtaking videos - check out the Attenborough ones on bugs (oculus TV).
If your PC is powerful enough then VR software can be had quite cheaply in bundles from Fanatical & Humble bundle plus there's free stuff on steam. Serious Sam in VR is a hoot.
The only drawback is it's only possible with a facebook account. Plenty of hardly used Quest 2's on facebook marketplace where they have been bought and nausea has been experienced. Highly recommend getting a vive DAS with clips although if you're handy a headset from a duff PSVR can be adapted, even straps from welders helmets have been used. It takes a while to get used to VR but there's some breathtaking videos - check out the Attenborough ones on bugs (oculus TV).
Edited by inkafone on Saturday 24th April 16:25
inkafone said:
Quest 2 is by far the best value headset. I have a Vive pro, Pimax Artisan & a 5K+. The Quest gets used the most as it's standalone although software can be a bit pricey (there's daily deals and cheap/free games on sidequest though). Plenty of free stuff and experiences in the oculus store. Virtual desktop will soon be redundant as the latest update has it built in.
If your PC is powerful enough then VR software can be had quite cheaply in bundles from Fanatical & Humble bundle plus there's free stuff on steam. Serious Sam in VR is a hoot.
The only drawback is it's only possible with a facebook account. Plenty of hardly used Quest 2's on facebook marketplace where they have been bought and nausea has been experienced. Highly recommend getting a vive DAS with clips although if you're handy a headset from a duff PSVR can be adapted, even straps from welders helmets have been used. It takes a while to get used to VR but there's some breathtaking videos - check out the Attenborough ones on bugs (oculus TV).
Yeah, the FB thing bugs me and I already had a FB account (but didn't use it much). Clearly Facebook are massively subsidising the hardware to give it a huge competitive advantage and they are making stuff that is Quest/Rift Only, depriving users of other PCVR headsets from playing the games. If your PC is powerful enough then VR software can be had quite cheaply in bundles from Fanatical & Humble bundle plus there's free stuff on steam. Serious Sam in VR is a hoot.
The only drawback is it's only possible with a facebook account. Plenty of hardly used Quest 2's on facebook marketplace where they have been bought and nausea has been experienced. Highly recommend getting a vive DAS with clips although if you're handy a headset from a duff PSVR can be adapted, even straps from welders helmets have been used. It takes a while to get used to VR but there's some breathtaking videos - check out the Attenborough ones on bugs (oculus TV).
Edited by inkafone on Saturday 24th April 16:25
But - for the price and specs it was just too good to ignore.
Late to the party I know but..
I've just been lent an Occulus Rift and I've got to say it's mega! After some big downloads and fun and games with which USB bus it liked on my machine I've got to say I'm impressed. I appreciate it's old tech these days but just the whole VR "thing" has me hooked. No sign of any motion sickness and only have a small "play" area which is a bit restrictive but I can see how immersive it could become.
I've just been lent an Occulus Rift and I've got to say it's mega! After some big downloads and fun and games with which USB bus it liked on my machine I've got to say I'm impressed. I appreciate it's old tech these days but just the whole VR "thing" has me hooked. No sign of any motion sickness and only have a small "play" area which is a bit restrictive but I can see how immersive it could become.
So my Reverb G2 has just been returned to HP for refund. It had hardware issues, latest was they wanted to replace the cable but the ETA was December 21st! Even when it had been working I found the Windows Mixed Reality stuff extremely cumbersome, obtrusive and unnecessary so I'm glad I'm not stuck with it now.
For the amount of time I get to play VR games it seems silly spending ~£1k on an Index or Vive setup so I'm thinking about a Quest 2. Mostly this will be for PC VR gaming - DCS, Assetto Corsa Competizione, Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky etc. Anyone use a Quest 2 in this way? Visual quality/clarity and head tracking up to the job? I'm aware of the need for Facebook etc. to use the Q2 standalone, is that still required to use it with a PC?
For the amount of time I get to play VR games it seems silly spending ~£1k on an Index or Vive setup so I'm thinking about a Quest 2. Mostly this will be for PC VR gaming - DCS, Assetto Corsa Competizione, Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky etc. Anyone use a Quest 2 in this way? Visual quality/clarity and head tracking up to the job? I'm aware of the need for Facebook etc. to use the Q2 standalone, is that still required to use it with a PC?
8bit said:
So my Reverb G2 has just been returned to HP for refund. It had hardware issues, latest was they wanted to replace the cable but the ETA was December 21st! Even when it had been working I found the Windows Mixed Reality stuff extremely cumbersome, obtrusive and unnecessary so I'm glad I'm not stuck with it now.
For the amount of time I get to play VR games it seems silly spending ~£1k on an Index or Vive setup so I'm thinking about a Quest 2. Mostly this will be for PC VR gaming - DCS, Assetto Corsa Competizione, Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky etc. Anyone use a Quest 2 in this way? Visual quality/clarity and head tracking up to the job? I'm aware of the need for Facebook etc. to use the Q2 standalone, is that still required to use it with a PC?
Yes, you need to register with Facebook (or use your existing account) to use the thing for PC VR even if you don't want to run native Quest games.For the amount of time I get to play VR games it seems silly spending ~£1k on an Index or Vive setup so I'm thinking about a Quest 2. Mostly this will be for PC VR gaming - DCS, Assetto Corsa Competizione, Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky etc. Anyone use a Quest 2 in this way? Visual quality/clarity and head tracking up to the job? I'm aware of the need for Facebook etc. to use the Q2 standalone, is that still required to use it with a PC?
It's a very good headset for PC use - easily one of the best out there and unbeatable for the price.
Only major downside IMO would be the optics - FoV is on the narrow end of things and you have to get the headset seated just right with respect to your eyes or you'll get all sorts of lens effects. If you do get the sweet spot though it looks great.
People have slagged off the included (admittedly cheap feeling) headstrap but I thought it was OK and did the job. I upgraded to an Elite Strap with battery to get a nicer fit and the extra battery life anyway. The price of the whole package was still a bargain compared to most other PCVR headsets.
Onboard computing hardware is actually very decent - more than good enough for PSVR level gaming without the need to connect to anything else and the stand-alone nature is a real revelation. You can pick it up on a whim and be in a VR game inside a minute or two - pretty much unheard of compared to PSVR and PCVR. And since the headset now fully supports wireless connection to a PC you can benefit from untethered PCVR gaming too.
Lucas Ayde said:
Yes, you need to register with Facebook (or use your existing account) to use the thing for PC VR even if you don't want to run native Quest games.
It's a very good headset for PC use - easily one of the best out there and unbeatable for the price.
Only major downside IMO would be the optics - FoV is on the narrow end of things and you have to get the headset seated just right with respect to your eyes or you'll get all sorts of lens effects. If you do get the sweet spot though it looks great.
People have slagged off the included (admittedly cheap feeling) headstrap but I thought it was OK and did the job. I upgraded to an Elite Strap with battery to get a nicer fit and the extra battery life anyway. The price of the whole package was still a bargain compared to most other PCVR headsets.
Onboard computing hardware is actually very decent - more than good enough for PSVR level gaming without the need to connect to anything else and the stand-alone nature is a real revelation. You can pick it up on a whim and be in a VR game inside a minute or two - pretty much unheard of compared to PSVR and PCVR. And since the headset now fully supports wireless connection to a PC you can benefit from untethered PCVR gaming too.
Thanks for that,It's a very good headset for PC use - easily one of the best out there and unbeatable for the price.
Only major downside IMO would be the optics - FoV is on the narrow end of things and you have to get the headset seated just right with respect to your eyes or you'll get all sorts of lens effects. If you do get the sweet spot though it looks great.
People have slagged off the included (admittedly cheap feeling) headstrap but I thought it was OK and did the job. I upgraded to an Elite Strap with battery to get a nicer fit and the extra battery life anyway. The price of the whole package was still a bargain compared to most other PCVR headsets.
Onboard computing hardware is actually very decent - more than good enough for PSVR level gaming without the need to connect to anything else and the stand-alone nature is a real revelation. You can pick it up on a whim and be in a VR game inside a minute or two - pretty much unheard of compared to PSVR and PCVR. And since the headset now fully supports wireless connection to a PC you can benefit from untethered PCVR gaming too.
I took the plunge and picked up a 64GB Quest 2 from Argos last night. I managed to set it up initially with only an Oculus account but I think I linked it to Facebook after I plugged it in to the PC. I didn't get the Elite strap yet, decided to see how it goes with the regular one to start with because so far I only play PC VR games and am seated for those but I may upgrade. I didn't pay the £90 for the Oculus Link cable, got a Belkin USB A to C cable. Seems to work although the Oculus software warns me that it's not plugged in to a USB 3 port even when it is. Pretty sure the cable is USB 3 though but maybe I need a driver update or something.
Regards the optics, I'd say it's actually better than the Reverb G2 I had until this week. The FOV on the Reverb is pretty poor, probably no better than the Quest 2 but the real issue with the Reverb G2 optics is the lenses. They're really only sharp right in the center so if you try and glance around just by moving your eyes it's very blurry. The Quest 2 is much better like that so I think it'll prove to be the better device for stuff like racing and flight sims etc. Obviously the Quest 2 is half the price of the G2 once you add controllers to that and there's the benefit of the standalone games etc.
On that subject, any recommendations for family games to use standalone? Our kids are maybe a bit young still at 7 and 5 but they might find some of the VR video stuff like dinosaurs quite fun.
8bit said:
Regards the optics, I'd say it's actually better than the Reverb G2 I had until this week. The FOV on the Reverb is pretty poor, probably no better than the Quest 2 but the real issue with the Reverb G2 optics is the lenses. They're really only sharp right in the center so if you try and glance around just by moving your eyes it's very blurry.
It's funny you mention that. I recently bought a Reverb G2 after Having an Oculus Rift about 3 or 4 years ago. I thought it was a huge upgrade but found the lenses disappointingly blurry when moving my eyes around. However, I wiped them carefully with a lens cleaning cloth just in case there was dust or something random and the difference was staggering! Much, much better! I wonder if there is some residue on lenses from manufacture that gets left on there?Camelot1971 said:
It's funny you mention that. I recently bought a Reverb G2 after Having an Oculus Rift about 3 or 4 years ago. I thought it was a huge upgrade but found the lenses disappointingly blurry when moving my eyes around. However, I wiped them carefully with a lens cleaning cloth just in case there was dust or something random and the difference was staggering! Much, much better! I wonder if there is some residue on lenses from manufacture that gets left on there?
Possibly, although I did clean mine a few times and it didn't make that sort of difference in my case. Even if it had, the poor support from HP and the infuriating Windows Mixed Reality software stack just killed any enjoyment from the HP device for me.halo34 said:
Anyone using the quest 2 for DCS and any thoughts on it - apart from a decent HOTAS its next on my shopping spree.
I just got a Quest 2 last week and had my first proper chance to test it on DCS last night. So far so good - visual clarity I'd say is adequate for DCS, certainly I could read the MFD display text in the F/A-18C Hornet. Head tracking is excellent. Sound is a little bit tinny through the headset but that could be remedied with use of a proper set of headphones or just using the PC speakers for sound.The one thing that bugs me is the Oculus Guardian feature. It displays a grid surrounding an area you can pre-set to define your play area for room-scale play when you get too close to the edge. You can set the play area to be "Stationary" if you're playing seated but unless I have the hand controllers right under my seat it always shows a section of red grid around where the controllers are sitting. I haven't found a way to disable that yet.
Also, when you put the headset on, even with the link cable connected you still have to use the controllers to enable Oculus Link mode. Not the end of the world but it is annoying if, like me, you bought it to use pretty much permanently with PC VR.
8bit said:
I just got a Quest 2 last week and had my first proper chance to test it on DCS last night. So far so good - visual clarity I'd say is adequate for DCS, certainly I could read the MFD display text in the F/A-18C Hornet. Head tracking is excellent. Sound is a little bit tinny through the headset but that could be remedied with use of a proper set of headphones or just using the PC speakers for sound.
The one thing that bugs me is the Oculus Guardian feature. It displays a grid surrounding an area you can pre-set to define your play area for room-scale play when you get too close to the edge. You can set the play area to be "Stationary" if you're playing seated but unless I have the hand controllers right under my seat it always shows a section of red grid around where the controllers are sitting. I haven't found a way to disable that yet.
Also, when you put the headset on, even with the link cable connected you still have to use the controllers to enable Oculus Link mode. Not the end of the world but it is annoying if, like me, you bought it to use pretty much permanently with PC VR.
Thanks for the feedback. I used to have the original quest (but not PC to run it) and I used to cheat and set a massive room boundary so it didn't interfere when sitting down. Probs better ways to do it now mind you!The one thing that bugs me is the Oculus Guardian feature. It displays a grid surrounding an area you can pre-set to define your play area for room-scale play when you get too close to the edge. You can set the play area to be "Stationary" if you're playing seated but unless I have the hand controllers right under my seat it always shows a section of red grid around where the controllers are sitting. I haven't found a way to disable that yet.
Also, when you put the headset on, even with the link cable connected you still have to use the controllers to enable Oculus Link mode. Not the end of the world but it is annoying if, like me, you bought it to use pretty much permanently with PC VR.
I had the same issue with seated guardian. A massive pain.
You can disable guardian in experimental settings /beta in the oculus headset settings .
You WILL punch your desk at some point . In roomscale with guardian on I still managed to punch a clock on top of a speaker half way across the room playing boneworks , hacking at a null man with a hammer :-)
You can disable guardian in experimental settings /beta in the oculus headset settings .
You WILL punch your desk at some point . In roomscale with guardian on I still managed to punch a clock on top of a speaker half way across the room playing boneworks , hacking at a null man with a hammer :-)
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give those a try. Feels like there should just be an option for "I'm sitting down and not using the controllers, disable Guardian view please" without having to resort to beta/experimental features but I guess that would imply that it's coming in due course.
I don't currently have any games for the Quest 2 itself, just using the HOTAS with DCS and Elite Dangerous just now so my knuckles and the desk should be safe for the moment. Interested in any fun, family-friendly game recommendations for the Quest 2 standalone though if anyone's got some?
I don't currently have any games for the Quest 2 itself, just using the HOTAS with DCS and Elite Dangerous just now so my knuckles and the desk should be safe for the moment. Interested in any fun, family-friendly game recommendations for the Quest 2 standalone though if anyone's got some?
halo34 said:
8bit said:
I just got a Quest 2 last week and had my first proper chance to test it on DCS last night. So far so good - visual clarity I'd say is adequate for DCS, certainly I could read the MFD display text in the F/A-18C Hornet. Head tracking is excellent. Sound is a little bit tinny through the headset but that could be remedied with use of a proper set of headphones or just using the PC speakers for sound.
The one thing that bugs me is the Oculus Guardian feature. It displays a grid surrounding an area you can pre-set to define your play area for room-scale play when you get too close to the edge. You can set the play area to be "Stationary" if you're playing seated but unless I have the hand controllers right under my seat it always shows a section of red grid around where the controllers are sitting. I haven't found a way to disable that yet.
Also, when you put the headset on, even with the link cable connected you still have to use the controllers to enable Oculus Link mode. Not the end of the world but it is annoying if, like me, you bought it to use pretty much permanently with PC VR.
Thanks for the feedback. I used to have the original quest (but not PC to run it) and I used to cheat and set a massive room boundary so it didn't interfere when sitting down. Probs better ways to do it now mind you!The one thing that bugs me is the Oculus Guardian feature. It displays a grid surrounding an area you can pre-set to define your play area for room-scale play when you get too close to the edge. You can set the play area to be "Stationary" if you're playing seated but unless I have the hand controllers right under my seat it always shows a section of red grid around where the controllers are sitting. I haven't found a way to disable that yet.
Also, when you put the headset on, even with the link cable connected you still have to use the controllers to enable Oculus Link mode. Not the end of the world but it is annoying if, like me, you bought it to use pretty much permanently with PC VR.
8bit said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give those a try. Feels like there should just be an option for "I'm sitting down and not using the controllers, disable Guardian view please" without having to resort to beta/experimental features but I guess that would imply that it's coming in due course.
I don't currently have any games for the Quest 2 itself, just using the HOTAS with DCS and Elite Dangerous just now so my knuckles and the desk should be safe for the moment. Interested in any fun, family-friendly game recommendations for the Quest 2 standalone though if anyone's got some?
Beat sabre, is the obvious one. Pretty much everyone likes that, and good for a bit of family competition. Gun Club VR is excellent for a bit of shooting action, all target based so it's more family friendly than something where you're shooting people. The only other native one I've got is the Climb 2, which is well done, to the point of giving people actual vertigo, though didn't hold my interest for that long tbh. I don't currently have any games for the Quest 2 itself, just using the HOTAS with DCS and Elite Dangerous just now so my knuckles and the desk should be safe for the moment. Interested in any fun, family-friendly game recommendations for the Quest 2 standalone though if anyone's got some?
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