Snowrunner released today
Discussion
parabolica said:
Took one look at the new Russia map, de-fogged the 1st Map and now I've decided to take a short break from the game and come back to it in a week or so. Deep snow and impassable trails - I though Imandra was challenging - looks like this one is going to be worse!
I took the new Scout vehicle out on the new map, had to get winched out within 10 yards of the garage. I promptly went back in for a bigger truck!mmm-five said:
With the wrong tyres you will find your vehicle uncontrollable if you lose it down some tarmac inclines!
All part of the fun.
There are mods (don't know if they're available on consoles) that make the tyre/suspension performance more realistic so that low pressure, wide tyres for off-road & snow will deform cosmetically and grip better than a higher pressure, narrower road tyre.
Of course there are plenty more 'immersion' mods...such as locking the view to internal or real fuel rate usage, etc.
I'm on the Xbox Series X so no mods for me. I uninstalled the game after being unimpressed by the tarmac handling but decided I hadn't given it a fair go, so I played again it hit me how good it is. After a few hours of driving to watch towers and exploring, I cleared a landslide and then retrieved a curtain side trailer from a muddy, steep hell hole and it clicked for me. I just downloaded Mud Runner and all of the DLC to play after I finish this, but Snow Runner is huge!All part of the fun.
There are mods (don't know if they're available on consoles) that make the tyre/suspension performance more realistic so that low pressure, wide tyres for off-road & snow will deform cosmetically and grip better than a higher pressure, narrower road tyre.
Of course there are plenty more 'immersion' mods...such as locking the view to internal or real fuel rate usage, etc.
Jader1973 said:
Another Game Pass downloader here.
I was struggling until I repaired the International and found it has AWD and diff locks. It is unstoppable
The only problem is I put it back in the garage and now it isn’t in my truck list
Store still says I own it though.
Are you sure you're in the correct garage, as each garage in each location has it's own slots (you move left & right to select other slots), in addition to the 'global' Truck Storage menu.I was struggling until I repaired the International and found it has AWD and diff locks. It is unstoppable
The only problem is I put it back in the garage and now it isn’t in my truck list
Store still says I own it though.
Yeah truck management took me ages to figure out to begin with.
As Five mentions there are garages on most of the maps and each have 5 slots - make sure to cycle through all the slots to see if you have any trucks sitting there. You can store trucks either in individual garages (so if you leave it in Black River garage in Michigan for example, it'll always be at that garage for you to access it) or you can 'put into truck storage' which means whichever garage you go to on any map, your truck will be available for you to access and deploy. That's how you can get American trucks into Russia maps and vice-versa.
Also, on the global map page, the tile for each map in each location will tell you if you have any trucks deployed there; it's a quick way to see if you have lost any trucks on a map that you've forgotten about or left behind. There is a little truck icon at the bottom left of the tile if there is a truck on the map. Go to the map, and on the tasks/content tab, it should list any trucks currently deployed on the map. Click on the truck name to show it's location; double click to teleport into that truck.
As Five mentions there are garages on most of the maps and each have 5 slots - make sure to cycle through all the slots to see if you have any trucks sitting there. You can store trucks either in individual garages (so if you leave it in Black River garage in Michigan for example, it'll always be at that garage for you to access it) or you can 'put into truck storage' which means whichever garage you go to on any map, your truck will be available for you to access and deploy. That's how you can get American trucks into Russia maps and vice-versa.
Also, on the global map page, the tile for each map in each location will tell you if you have any trucks deployed there; it's a quick way to see if you have lost any trucks on a map that you've forgotten about or left behind. There is a little truck icon at the bottom left of the tile if there is a truck on the map. Go to the map, and on the tasks/content tab, it should list any trucks currently deployed on the map. Click on the truck name to show it's location; double click to teleport into that truck.
This morning I unlocked the White Western Star on the dam map of Michigan. I didn't realise I was going to need to refuel and repair it to tow it free - nor did I anticipate that my service and fuel trailer would need to be replenished in order to provide enough repair to the WWS to shift it. The WWS is on a small island and to free it, you need to tow it across a shallow rocky river, up a steep, muddy bank around trees and rocks, no wonder it was abandoned.
Truck in, tow WWS without engine power, realise it won't climb bank, truck back to base, get service trailer, drive to WWS, repair, refuel, tow trailer back to base, replenish, back to WWS, finish repair, tow WWS free and back to depot, then use WWS to retrieve the service trailer. Phew, that was well over 90 minutes of work!
The WWS is great though, on paper it looks to have worse stats than the default truck you get at the first garage, but something about it, perhaps the super-wide wheelbase, makes it really good at towing off road. I immediately took it back to the first map and freed a construction cabin trailer that I got wedged on a bank of earth there, it pulled it free without breaking a sweat, when my default truck, on the same tyres and with an apparently better power to weight ratio, couldn't budge it.
This game is fantastic but it is brutal and doesn't hold your hand. I will post some quick beginner tips I've learned the hard way:
1. If you wedge or tip a trailer for a mission, you need to free it or right it using winches, multiple trucks etc. If you use the "restart" function on the mission, it will take you right back to the start, including undoing any progress you've already made towards completing the mission. Last resort only!
2. Buy off road tyres as soon as you can for your scout and main truck.
3. Explore the map. Use the scout to find the towers, then drive to a collect upgrades. Apply these to whatever vehicle you are using. Finding an upgrade in the field gives you one of those items in inventory and you can freely switch it between vehicles.
4. You must complete mission steps in order, as they appear in the task or contract text, from start to bottom. If a task calls for delivery of bricks, then metal beams to a site, don't turn up with the beams first or you won't be able to unload the cargo.
5. Unlock main routes as a priority, which are often blocked by landslides, destroyed bridges etc. These tasks are often relatively quick and easy and open new routes across the maps, which are generally much, much quicker and easier to traverse.
6. Don't apply raised suspension to the scout vehicle just because you can. My Chevrolet truck looks like a moon lander with raised suspension and while I'd use it for traversing deep mud, it will roll on uneven routes at the drop of a hat. If you're scouting into the unknown or going along precarious terrain, leave it on standard suspension.
7. Don't use AWD by default. Once you have access to switchable AWD, it's easy to leave it on all the time. This burns fuel, particularly when you are driving on paved road where you could switch it off for no performance penalty. Likewise, If you find yourself with your front wheels off the ground, as often happens when towing large trailers, switch it off as you're just wasting power by spinning them. Once your front wheels touch down again, switch it back on. Likewise if your back wheels get stuck behind a mound of earth.
8. Winch, winch, winch. Instead of only using the quick winch button, open your function menu then look at the winch points, you will see that you can winch from many different points on your vehicle and trailer. If your front wheels pass an object you were using to winch against, attach the rear of your truck to the same point and keep the winch power on for even more pull. You can also use the winch to stop yourself tipping if you're caught at a dodgy angle.
9. The handling in this game is bad at speed, no matter what vehicle you use. Generally, going to fast will just get you wrecked anyway, so take it easy.
10. Towing heavy trailers will push you wide on corners if you take them too fast. Slow down well in advance and use the low gear setting on steep downhill sections to avoid building up too much speed.
Truck in, tow WWS without engine power, realise it won't climb bank, truck back to base, get service trailer, drive to WWS, repair, refuel, tow trailer back to base, replenish, back to WWS, finish repair, tow WWS free and back to depot, then use WWS to retrieve the service trailer. Phew, that was well over 90 minutes of work!
The WWS is great though, on paper it looks to have worse stats than the default truck you get at the first garage, but something about it, perhaps the super-wide wheelbase, makes it really good at towing off road. I immediately took it back to the first map and freed a construction cabin trailer that I got wedged on a bank of earth there, it pulled it free without breaking a sweat, when my default truck, on the same tyres and with an apparently better power to weight ratio, couldn't budge it.
This game is fantastic but it is brutal and doesn't hold your hand. I will post some quick beginner tips I've learned the hard way:
1. If you wedge or tip a trailer for a mission, you need to free it or right it using winches, multiple trucks etc. If you use the "restart" function on the mission, it will take you right back to the start, including undoing any progress you've already made towards completing the mission. Last resort only!
2. Buy off road tyres as soon as you can for your scout and main truck.
3. Explore the map. Use the scout to find the towers, then drive to a collect upgrades. Apply these to whatever vehicle you are using. Finding an upgrade in the field gives you one of those items in inventory and you can freely switch it between vehicles.
4. You must complete mission steps in order, as they appear in the task or contract text, from start to bottom. If a task calls for delivery of bricks, then metal beams to a site, don't turn up with the beams first or you won't be able to unload the cargo.
5. Unlock main routes as a priority, which are often blocked by landslides, destroyed bridges etc. These tasks are often relatively quick and easy and open new routes across the maps, which are generally much, much quicker and easier to traverse.
6. Don't apply raised suspension to the scout vehicle just because you can. My Chevrolet truck looks like a moon lander with raised suspension and while I'd use it for traversing deep mud, it will roll on uneven routes at the drop of a hat. If you're scouting into the unknown or going along precarious terrain, leave it on standard suspension.
7. Don't use AWD by default. Once you have access to switchable AWD, it's easy to leave it on all the time. This burns fuel, particularly when you are driving on paved road where you could switch it off for no performance penalty. Likewise, If you find yourself with your front wheels off the ground, as often happens when towing large trailers, switch it off as you're just wasting power by spinning them. Once your front wheels touch down again, switch it back on. Likewise if your back wheels get stuck behind a mound of earth.
8. Winch, winch, winch. Instead of only using the quick winch button, open your function menu then look at the winch points, you will see that you can winch from many different points on your vehicle and trailer. If your front wheels pass an object you were using to winch against, attach the rear of your truck to the same point and keep the winch power on for even more pull. You can also use the winch to stop yourself tipping if you're caught at a dodgy angle.
9. The handling in this game is bad at speed, no matter what vehicle you use. Generally, going to fast will just get you wrecked anyway, so take it easy.
10. Towing heavy trailers will push you wide on corners if you take them too fast. Slow down well in advance and use the low gear setting on steep downhill sections to avoid building up too much speed.
Some good points there dude. It can be a tricky game and even tedious at times, but it's defintiely rewarding when you put in the time and plan correctly.
A couple other things to note..
Money can be tight earlier on, so remember to sell trailers you aren't using. They don't depreciate, so you can just buy / sell as required for missions rather than keeping a load sat around.
Sell old parts when you buy upgrades. You can also sell trucks you recover and won't use, and buy back later if required.
And if you're playing on PC remember there's loads of useful mods available. Mod.io is the main site tog et them but there are others. There's lots of vehicles to download but also some quality of life mods. The main one I use removes the XP requirement for purchasing parts. It feels more balanced to have them readily available as long as you've got the funds.
There's also a mod called 'realistic steering' that removes the steering deadzones and increases responsiveness when using a controller, feels much better that way.
Edit: Grabbed some screenshots while playing tonight. It's a great looking game at times.. This was a big boy to get around some parts of the map..
Rather precarious at times..
But the end was in sight..
A couple other things to note..
Money can be tight earlier on, so remember to sell trailers you aren't using. They don't depreciate, so you can just buy / sell as required for missions rather than keeping a load sat around.
Sell old parts when you buy upgrades. You can also sell trucks you recover and won't use, and buy back later if required.
And if you're playing on PC remember there's loads of useful mods available. Mod.io is the main site tog et them but there are others. There's lots of vehicles to download but also some quality of life mods. The main one I use removes the XP requirement for purchasing parts. It feels more balanced to have them readily available as long as you've got the funds.
There's also a mod called 'realistic steering' that removes the steering deadzones and increases responsiveness when using a controller, feels much better that way.
Edit: Grabbed some screenshots while playing tonight. It's a great looking game at times.. This was a big boy to get around some parts of the map..
Rather precarious at times..
But the end was in sight..
Edited by smithyithy on Monday 24th May 22:23
I'd add a couple of points to the list:
- Don't be greedy. If you attempt to take a massive trailer across the map to save trips (there is a huge trailer available as a mod, 10 cargo slots), you will get stuck a lot and it will have been quicker to take a smaller trailer and do more trips. Also, shortcuts are great until you need to reverse an artic. down a steep set of hairpins. Make sure you know where you're going!
- You can't unload cargo automatically unless it's "packed". You may be able to get the cargo there, but unless you can unload it manually into the red zone it will need to be "packed". That caught me out when I tried to be clever and use a truck too small for the job because it was nearby.
smithyithy said:
I've been getting around in the 8 wheeler "Bandit" truck from the DLC. I am enjoying the game so immensely that I bought the 2 season pass DLCs for the extra vehicles and maps, which allows for the Bandit to be claimed from the retained list in the garage. It is cool because it comes with a crane and sideboard flatbed as standard but it was comically unstable until I unlocked the super-wide mud tyres. It is still a bit dodgy, especially with the crane and sideboard equipped, but with them removed I find it to be a fantastic vehicle for traversing flatter muddy areas. The cabin linkage to the rear chassis rails is extremely flexible and on really harsh rocky and steep terrain it can end up twisting itself into knots and rolling into oblivion. The special winch that works when the engine is off might be a choice upgrade for it. I don't have any of the engine upgrades unlocked for it, but even on the standard engine, the wheel layout, permanent AWD and always-on diff lock seems to be able to drag just about anything across the deepest mud I've yet found.
I also think it looks absolutely gorgeous, in a sort of blocky and utilitarian way.
Mastodon2 said:
I recognise that road and that trailer because that is the construction trailer that I beached on a hump on that very same road. It remained there until I unlocked the White Western Star and managed to pull it free. I like that Azov you have there, how do you unlock it? Is it one you have to rescue from the wild or is it something you can buy from the Russian garage once you hit a certain level?
I've been getting around in the 8 wheeler "Bandit" truck from the DLC. I am enjoying the game so immensely that I bought the 2 season pass DLCs for the extra vehicles and maps, which allows for the Bandit to be claimed from the retained list in the garage. It is cool because it comes with a crane and sideboard flatbed as standard but it was comically unstable until I unlocked the super-wide mud tyres. It is still a bit dodgy, especially with the crane and sideboard equipped, but with them removed I find it to be a fantastic vehicle for traversing flatter muddy areas. The cabin linkage to the rear chassis rails is extremely flexible and on really harsh rocky and steep terrain it can end up twisting itself into knots and rolling into oblivion. The special winch that works when the engine is off might be a choice upgrade for it. I don't have any of the engine upgrades unlocked for it, but even on the standard engine, the wheel layout, permanent AWD and always-on diff lock seems to be able to drag just about anything across the deepest mud I've yet found.
I also think it looks absolutely gorgeous, in a sort of blocky and utilitarian way.
One thing has to be said about this game, the progression in the level of difficulty is spot on. I found things difficult at the beginning, and some things are still difficult now on the maps I'm playing, but whenever I go back to the first Michigan map with my current trucks I just drive over everything as if it was paved. I've been getting around in the 8 wheeler "Bandit" truck from the DLC. I am enjoying the game so immensely that I bought the 2 season pass DLCs for the extra vehicles and maps, which allows for the Bandit to be claimed from the retained list in the garage. It is cool because it comes with a crane and sideboard flatbed as standard but it was comically unstable until I unlocked the super-wide mud tyres. It is still a bit dodgy, especially with the crane and sideboard equipped, but with them removed I find it to be a fantastic vehicle for traversing flatter muddy areas. The cabin linkage to the rear chassis rails is extremely flexible and on really harsh rocky and steep terrain it can end up twisting itself into knots and rolling into oblivion. The special winch that works when the engine is off might be a choice upgrade for it. I don't have any of the engine upgrades unlocked for it, but even on the standard engine, the wheel layout, permanent AWD and always-on diff lock seems to be able to drag just about anything across the deepest mud I've yet found.
I also think it looks absolutely gorgeous, in a sort of blocky and utilitarian way.
Don't be tempted to skip steps would be my advice, the game is more enjoyable for it. That said, if you really get stuck, that truck is one of the basic ones in Russia I think.
Was using the Hummer as my scout for ages, very good off road and in mud but I fancied a changed, the on-road handling was laughably bad and it liked to roll over a lot..
Sold it and bought the Var(?) 6-wheel thing. Really like it so far. Awful turning circle but amazing in all but proper deep mud. Also looks way cooler.
Sold it and bought the Var(?) 6-wheel thing. Really like it so far. Awful turning circle but amazing in all but proper deep mud. Also looks way cooler.
Mastodon2 said:
I like that Azov you have there, how do you unlock it? Is it one you have to rescue from the wild or is it something you can buy from the Russian garage once you hit a certain level?
Yeah it's the Azov 64131, great truck, not very quick but very capable and versatile. I can't remember exactly but I think it's purchasable, should be on the Russian maps (then obviously you can store and deploy it anywhere). I think I just rescued and sold a few trucks to save up for it, but I use it for almost everything now.Just installed this on PS4 the other day after reading this thread. In an actual, brick and mortar shop nonetheless!
All was going well, I'd driven into a pond and winched myself out, discovered that maximum throttle does not necessarily equal maximum speed, found the GMC lorry, and spent some time destroying street furniture for fun. That is until my truck somehow ran over the bloody guard rail on a paved road at 15mph and subsequently fell over 200 yards from the old bridge.
Then I found out it was 11:30pm and I'd been playing nearly two hours.
\Looks like this might rival Sim City 4 in the "waste hours doing incredibly mundane yet addicting activities" genre of gaming.
All was going well, I'd driven into a pond and winched myself out, discovered that maximum throttle does not necessarily equal maximum speed, found the GMC lorry, and spent some time destroying street furniture for fun. That is until my truck somehow ran over the bloody guard rail on a paved road at 15mph and subsequently fell over 200 yards from the old bridge.
Then I found out it was 11:30pm and I'd been playing nearly two hours.
\Looks like this might rival Sim City 4 in the "waste hours doing incredibly mundane yet addicting activities" genre of gaming.
smithyithy said:
Sold it and bought the Var(?) 6-wheel thing. Really like it so far. Awful turning circle but amazing in all but proper deep mud. Also looks way cooler
I've been using that too, I don't have any engine upgrades for it yet as I bought it in Russia and then returned to Michigan with it, but it is superb with the massive balloon mud tyres. I also find it carries enough spare wheel, repair and fuel points to be useful as a support vehicle, plus it can pull that mini fuel trailer, it's great.When you park it next to a Chevrolet pickup truck, only then do you realise what an absolute unit it is!
Alex@POD said:
I'd add a couple of points to the list:
Just a couple of addendums - you've got to use the right truck for the trailer, the Pacific P16 with the largest trailer is no problem - I'm currently lugging 4x Metal beams through Yukon without issue. But I'm sure I'd come a cropper if I tried using one of the smaller (off road) trucks to do the same journey. - Don't be greedy. If you attempt to take a massive trailer across the map to save trips (there is a huge trailer available as a mod, 10 cargo slots), you will get stuck a lot and it will have been quicker to take a smaller trailer and do more trips. Also, shortcuts are great until you need to reverse an artic. down a steep set of hairpins. Make sure you know where you're going!
- You can't unload cargo automatically unless it's "packed". You may be able to get the cargo there, but unless you can unload it manually into the red zone it will need to be "packed". That caught me out when I tried to be clever and use a truck too small for the job because it was nearby.
An interesting (possible) glitch I found was that when you unpack cargo then the collision model changes/disappears - can be useful taking some of the largest cargo's through smaller routes like I found on one of the snowy maps cutting off a huge corner lol.
TommoAE86 said:
Just a couple of addendums - you've got to use the right truck for the trailer, the Pacific P16 with the largest trailer is no problem - I'm currently lugging 4x Metal beams through Yukon without issue. But I'm sure I'd come a cropper if I tried using one of the smaller (off road) trucks to do the same journey.
An interesting (possible) glitch I found was that when you unpack cargo then the collision model changes/disappears - can be useful taking some of the largest cargo's through smaller routes like I found on one of the snowy maps cutting off a huge corner lol.
Interesting, it is the sheer size of that trailer that's the issue for me, either through tight turns or over crests. I stupidly thought I could go over this one crest in Winsconsin (to avoid getting stuck trying to go around), ended up with the truck fully in the air, just held up by the hitch... An interesting (possible) glitch I found was that when you unpack cargo then the collision model changes/disappears - can be useful taking some of the largest cargo's through smaller routes like I found on one of the snowy maps cutting off a huge corner lol.
On PS4 at least I've found switching the steering mode to steering wheel makes driving at speed with a gamepad a great deal easier by introducing autocenter, as seen in every other driving game ever.
No more swerving across the road like a drunk with a predilection for ditches and guardrails
No more swerving across the road like a drunk with a predilection for ditches and guardrails
Alex@POD said:
Interesting, it is the sheer size of that trailer that's the issue for me, either through tight turns or over crests. I stupidly thought I could go over this one crest in Winsconsin (to avoid getting stuck trying to go around), ended up with the truck fully in the air, just held up by the hitch...
That's a good effort there, I salute you I've not done Wisconsin yet so maybe it's map specific as where I've used them I've not had to deal with tight turns - but I've got that stupid long log trailer stuck when using the Paystar plenty on all maps
With Imandra getting all 3 plane parts using the unpack thing and Yukon I've been using the massive trailer fine when taking stuff from near your base to that big red plant, have to go all the way round the edge though (spoilers in case you don't want to know about mission specifics) I'm well into the game now, have completed all of the first maps and most of the dlc.
Who'd have thought driving slowly could be so much fun? I found the dlc much harder that the main maps and almost got fed up with some of the repetitive missions but overall its a great game if you have a few hours to waste.
Who'd have thought driving slowly could be so much fun? I found the dlc much harder that the main maps and almost got fed up with some of the repetitive missions but overall its a great game if you have a few hours to waste.
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