PlayStation 5 Thread

PlayStation 5 Thread

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CooperS

4,279 posts

186 months

Monday 17th May
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N0ddie said:
Is the demand for "actual gamers" or is it from scalpers that are still able to buy and take straight, to the likes of, CEX for easy profit?
Interesting - but I guess it still indicates customers buying at a premium. But it is a self fulling circle which has no end unless Sony really ramp up supply.

HorneyMX5

Original Poster:

4,902 posts

117 months

Monday 17th May
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General consensus is that you won’t be able to walk into a shop and pick one off a shelf until 2022.

Crafty_

12,987 posts

167 months

Monday 17th May
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N0ddie said:
Is the demand for "actual gamers" or is it from scalpers that are still able to buy and take straight, to the likes of, CEX for easy profit?
There are plenty of people around on gaming forums etc that they can't get hold of one, that in turn drives demand from scalpers who see £££ signs.
I'd be surprised if any scalpers are dumping them on CEX - why sell for £10 profit when you can get £200+ on ebay ? Remember this isn't just someone getting in first, they are organised groups.

The level of demand is huge, remember its actually outsold PS4 for the same timeframe from launch, so whilst they are thin on the ground I do wonder exactly they would have been able to manufacturer in "normal times" compared to demand.


N0ddie

272 posts

132 months

Monday 17th May
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Crafty_ said:
There are plenty of people around on gaming forums etc that they can't get hold of one, that in turn drives demand from scalpers who see £££ signs.
I'd be surprised if any scalpers are dumping them on CEX - why sell for £10 profit when you can get £200+ on ebay ? Remember this isn't just someone getting in first, they are organised groups.

The level of demand is huge, remember its actually outsold PS4 for the same timeframe from launch, so whilst they are thin on the ground I do wonder exactly they would have been able to manufacturer in "normal times" compared to demand.
I think any "sold" numbers from manufacturers (Sony, MS, Nvidia) are all skewed. Better numbers to judge "success" will be "Number of devices activated".

Also. You can walk into CEX and make £100. Selling online comes with its drawbacks/delays but if you can get a hold of 1 PS5 every time a retailer has stock then there is a significant amount of "easy money" to be made (purely doing the quick and easy CEX route).

The level of demand is skewed also. If they were freely available from retailers and not an easy cash cow then a lot "less" would be sold imo.

Crafty_

12,987 posts

167 months

Monday 17th May
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The figures are like for like, if we want to start counting activated units, then we need figures for activated PS4s.

Sure, £100 is easy money, but the things sell easily - gumtree (or craigslist in the US) are easy, even ebay is going to be pretty simple for a seller.
So if you can make another £100 pretty easily, why wouldn't you ?

Leicester Loyal

3,292 posts

89 months

Monday 17th May
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HorneyMX5 said:
General consensus is that you won’t be able to walk into a shop and pick one off a shelf until 2022.
I think it'll be mid to late 2022 at that, can't see how they'll be just sat on the shelves readily available in 6 months time.

Blib

38,008 posts

164 months

Monday 17th May
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Last week I used the Hotbox app, plus £4.99pcm upgrade (now cancelled) to get hold of an XBox Series X.

I got an alert for stock at Amazon within 12 hours, clicked on the link immediately and bought one.

Shame there's so few games out for it. hehe

Steven_RW

1,348 posts

169 months

Monday 17th May
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Picked up a new PS5 Disc version. Cost £600 from a guy quite local. It is a premium but compared to the premium of a 3080 graphics card, it isn't really that nasty a price in my view, so I went for it.

Lovely piece of kit.

I only have PS4 games at the moment, so I kinda upgraded from my PS4 Pro to a Ps4 Ultra lol. Anyway. Demons Souls on the way.

RW

Flat6er

1,656 posts

177 months

Tuesday 18th May
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John lewis dropped this morning.
Shopto dropped yesterday.
Amazon stocking up for this week and argos next week.

This twitter account seems to be one of the better
Ones.

@PS5StockAlertUK

About 15-20% of followers report bagging one each big drop.

Edited by Flat6er on Tuesday 18th May 07:23

Benmac

1,284 posts

183 months

Tuesday 18th May
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Yep, I only missed a John Lewis one this morning just. Had it in my basket but by the time I'd got my sister in law's address it had gone. It's for my nephew as I've been tasked with getting one for him as I've got two others so far - I offered the service about 2 months ago as they seemed to think they could stroll into Argos and just get one whenever but they only decided it was a yes last week, his birthday is early June, good grief)

Leicester Loyal

3,292 posts

89 months

Wednesday 19th May
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Had one in my basket from Amazon, went to pay and it made me reset my password on my account for some weird reason. By the time I'd done that they'd sold out, I have no luck with these.

Ruskie

3,196 posts

167 months

Wednesday 19th May
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My mind hasn't changed on this, consoles,tickets, trainers, whatever it is, what a truely miserable way to make money. Literally feeding off peoples greed and exploitation. Sony don't give a toss as demonstrated by the sales figures being stronger than PS4 sales. Is there a solution? No. Will I join in and pay above retail, not a chance.

Hypocrit alert, I did pay above RRP for some Yeezy's for my darling daughter but that doesnt count because they weren't for me, plus teenagers gonna teenage! tongue out

Crafty_

12,987 posts

167 months

Wednesday 19th May
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I don't think anyone is advocating paying over RRP for the thing, I mean its personal choice if you want to but I do not see the need.

Accordng to some research, 5% of consoles end up on auction sites : https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-05-17-...

There was an earlier report from the US that estimated 10-15% of launch units went to scalpers.

They are an aggravation for sure, but I'm inclined to think the bigger problem is demand masively outstripping supply.

bigandclever

11,442 posts

205 months

Wednesday 19th May
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Ruskie said:
Sony don't give a toss as demonstrated by the sales figures being stronger than PS4 sales.
They care a little bit because consoles sat in some scalper’s storage aren’t doing their job of generating revenue.

sebdangerfield

1,284 posts

138 months

Wednesday 19th May
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bigandclever said:
Ruskie said:
Sony don't give a toss as demonstrated by the sales figures being stronger than PS4 sales.
They care a little bit because consoles sat in some scalper’s storage aren’t doing their job of generating revenue.
But the scalpers don't buy them to sit in storage. They buy them to sell on and realise the profit as quickly as possible. At that point they generate revenue for Sony. I can't see a scalper struggling for weeks trying to sell them on to the consumer, if demand was that low then surely it'd be easier to get one.

Leicester Loyal

3,292 posts

89 months

Thursday 20th May
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Leicester Loyal said:
Had one in my basket from Amazon, went to pay and it made me reset my password on my account for some weird reason. By the time I'd done that they'd sold out, I have no luck with these.
Got through to GAME this morning, had it in my basket, went to checkout and pay and the website crashed. Sat there for 10 minutes before giving up. It has the crap cap and t shirt with it though so wasn't too bothered.

Crafty_

12,987 posts

167 months

Thursday 20th May
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game's website is one of the worst imho.

Keep trying, you'll get one eventually smile

Lucas Ayde

2,551 posts

135 months

Thursday 20th May
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HorneyMX5 said:
General consensus is that you won’t be able to walk into a shop and pick one off a shelf until 2022.
I've got a decent GPU for my PC now (put my efforts into getting that over finding a PS5) so quite happy to wait for the inevitable 'slim' model - or whatever they call their hardware refresh. It will be nice to be able to play my existing PS4 library with better loading speed and performance but not worth the trouble and strife of trying to land a scarce unit whenever they drop.

In the meantime my PS4 Pro is just fine. However, I'm finding myself more and more playing PC games streamed to the TV so maybe I won't even bother with a PS5. Currently I'm gettting 'better than PS5' performance from my PC setup and using Gamestream/Steam Link on my Shield connected to my TV adds no noticeable lag for me.

(If the PS5 had been readily available from launch, I would have bought one back then though).




Lucas Ayde

2,551 posts

135 months

Thursday 20th May
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bigandclever said:
They care a little bit because consoles sat in some scalper’s storage aren’t doing their job of generating revenue.
Also, the more someone lays out for the console, the less cash they are likely to have spare to spend on games for it.

.... Sony won't see a penny of that hundreds of quid premium that people are paying for the hardware - but will likely make less back on games sales and they reportedly take a loss on the console in anticipation of making it back on software sales. It's got to be a problem for them.

Doesn't help that the back-compatibility of this new generation of consoles is so good that many users will be happy with a better experience on their existing games library rather than just snap up new software.


Avenicus

47 posts

11 months

Thursday 20th May
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I used the stockinformer website that pings an alert when various online retailers have stock and managed to get one from Amazon yesterday.

Still no games that I really want though but will give the rally ones a go.