Elden Ring

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Steven_RW

1,491 posts

179 months

Friday 13th May
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Aces_High said:
Steven_RW said:
Fire giant is relatively easy. I completed it after a few goes (maybe 10?) on my first play through and now on my faith strength build I managed on my third shot.

RW
Not easy at all for me. Must have tried 50 times. Have respecc’d character 4 times. Tried to pump arcane and use Rivers of Blood, tried original strength build…every time he just decimates my with that bl**dy shield. Have got to phase 2 only once but still he took me out. It’s annoying - I beat Radahn first time, but this big lug is risking me coming so far only to give up close to the end of the game. Enjoyment is being replaced by rising frustration and that’s a bad sign for me. Will try at the weekend again, maybe I need to be quicker in and out on Torrent and maybe I’m too greedy with my attacks and overstay my welcome. Aargh etc.
Understood. Once I am below the giant hacking at his one damaged ankle (not the one with the big bangle on it) I just stay there. You see the fire locations on the ground as he builds them up so I just shift a small amount onto a blank space and wait till the fire dies down. Right back at the ankle again. As SOON as he goes into the roll away mode, immediately get on torrent and rush back towards him again. Having a good spirit ashes such as Tiche or Dung eater means they are so aggressive that they distract the giant into attacking them.

I'm 100% not a souls gaming god. So it is possible to do this. All my attacks are at his ankle and in phase 2 he is miore robust but just keep going. Find a way to not end up in front of him. You want to get behind him, stay on torrent and bash the st out of that ankle. You may find that getting the Tiche ashes is a bigger pain in the ass than you want as well as the final Gaol fight to get the ashes can be very hard until you get the hang of it. Don't give up! :-)

toastyhamster

1,433 posts

73 months

Friday 13th May
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I think I'm hours away from anything like that, am starting to wonder how many hours (40 so far) I'm going to pump into this, I've killed Godrick and now Rennala (stupid two stages, I barely made it past the first one initially), and foolishly thought I was making some progress, then I spotted my 8% completed stat and later on unlocked the maps for Altus and Leyndell and realised how much there is still to do/explore. I've been doing quite a lot of the non-main stuff as well, although those f*cking fingers at Carion Manor, grrrrrr.

Need Golden Scarab, that's for the weekend.

Ruskie

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3,473 posts

177 months

Friday 13th May
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toastyhamster said:
I think I'm hours away from anything like that, am starting to wonder how many hours (40 so far) I'm going to pump into this, I've killed Godrick and now Rennala (stupid two stages, I barely made it past the first one initially), and foolishly thought I was making some progress, then I spotted my 8% completed stat and later on unlocked the maps for Altus and Leyndell and realised how much there is still to do/explore. I've been doing quite a lot of the non-main stuff as well, although those f*cking fingers at Carion Manor, grrrrrr.

Need Golden Scarab, that's for the weekend.
This is me, 35 hours in. No looking up anything online but getting murdered by most things.

Steven_RW

1,491 posts

179 months

Saturday 14th May
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My first play through was just over 120 hours. Finished with level 155. I am on my second character at level 125 and 50 hours in. I felt I had caught most of the game on the first play through only to find lots of areas I have not uncovered the first time. I am walking around each area just generally exploring where on the first play through I tried to get through safely and at times quickly so that I didn't lose grace or die unnecessarily.

Stick at it. There is tonnes to go.

thetoxicnerve

25,685 posts

154 months

Saturday 14th May
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My first run was something like 190hrs. But that was me taking my time and trying to find everything possible. Farmed a bit and finished at level 200 or so.

Farmed some more to stock up on smithing stones before starting NG+.

I still missed some things but nothing major I don’t think.

Aces_High

42 posts

24 months

Saturday 14th May
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Steven_RW said:
Understood. Once I am below the giant hacking at his one damaged ankle (not the one with the big bangle on it) I just stay there. You see the fire locations on the ground as he builds them up so I just shift a small amount onto a blank space and wait till the fire dies down. Right back at the ankle again. As SOON as he goes into the roll away mode, immediately get on torrent and rush back towards him again. Having a good spirit ashes such as Tiche or Dung eater means they are so aggressive that they distract the giant into attacking them.

I'm 100% not a souls gaming god. So it is possible to do this. All my attacks are at his ankle and in phase 2 he is miore robust but just keep going. Find a way to not end up in front of him. You want to get behind him, stay on torrent and bash the st out of that ankle. You may find that getting the Tiche ashes is a bigger pain in the ass than you want as well as the final Gaol fight to get the ashes can be very hard until you get the hang of it. Don't give up! :-)
This is really helpful, thank you. I’ll go back in today over lunch and give it another go. I already have the Tiche ashes though I’ve not been able to level them up much as I used the stones/glovewort (I forget which applies) on my Mimic Tear and Wolves. I suspect I’m just overstaying my welcome in the ankle and need to be fleeter of foot. That shield though frown

Aces_High

42 posts

24 months

Saturday 14th May
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toastyhamster said:
I think I'm hours away from anything like that, am starting to wonder how many hours (40 so far) I'm going to pump into this, I've killed Godrick and now Rennala (stupid two stages, I barely made it past the first one initially), and foolishly thought I was making some progress, then I spotted my 8% completed stat and later on unlocked the maps for Altus and Leyndell and realised how much there is still to do/explore. I've been doing quite a lot of the non-main stuff as well, although those f*cking fingers at Carion Manor, grrrrrr.

Need Golden Scarab, that's for the weekend.
I’d totally recommend prioritising that scarab - it makes a big difference to rune collection and hence levelling up. Utter pain to get it though - I’d recommend getting bloodhound’s step first, so you can scoot through the scarlet rot swamp in the abandoned cave - it’s a killer. You’ll want to have max endurance and flasks still leftover, post-swampy bit, as the boss fight has 2 knights attacking you. It really is worth it though - get that scarab talisman.

One great thing I find about the game is the planning needed - to fight boss X I should really have talisman Y, but to get that it’s helpful first to have Armour Z etc. The game is more of a time sink than Tenet, but it’s incredible.

Trustmeimadoctor

8,086 posts

132 months

Saturday 14th May
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Malenia done and now with this Respec she was dam easy infact no hits untill I got excited at the last second and she got one in frown

Steven_RW

1,491 posts

179 months

Saturday 14th May
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Aces_High said:
Steven_RW said:
Understood. Once I am below the giant hacking at his one damaged ankle (not the one with the big bangle on it) I just stay there. You see the fire locations on the ground as he builds them up so I just shift a small amount onto a blank space and wait till the fire dies down. Right back at the ankle again. As SOON as he goes into the roll away mode, immediately get on torrent and rush back towards him again. Having a good spirit ashes such as Tiche or Dung eater means they are so aggressive that they distract the giant into attacking them.

I'm 100% not a souls gaming god. So it is possible to do this. All my attacks are at his ankle and in phase 2 he is miore robust but just keep going. Find a way to not end up in front of him. You want to get behind him, stay on torrent and bash the st out of that ankle. You may find that getting the Tiche ashes is a bigger pain in the ass than you want as well as the final Gaol fight to get the ashes can be very hard until you get the hang of it. Don't give up! :-)
This is really helpful, thank you. I’ll go back in today over lunch and give it another go. I already have the Tiche ashes though I’ve not been able to level them up much as I used the stones/glovewort (I forget which applies) on my Mimic Tear and Wolves. I suspect I’m just overstaying my welcome in the ankle and need to be fleeter of foot. That shield though frown
On reflection and re-read I feel I need to be more clear that I stay on Torrent all of the time if possible. Where I said you need to get on torrent after the giant rolls, all going well you are still on torrent anyway, so even faster to run after him and press circle to throttle on! Good luck and look fwd to update on VICTORY.

Steven_RW

1,491 posts

179 months

Saturday 14th May
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Aces_High said:
The game is more of a time sink than Tenet, but it’s incredible.
What is tenet?

Aces_High

42 posts

24 months

Saturday 14th May
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Steven_RW said:
What is tenet?
Just my bad joke - the Christopher Nolan film that majored on timey-wimey stuff! I won’t give up the day job….

ps noted on Torrent, cheers. Going back in soon.

ZedLeg

3,860 posts

85 months

Saturday 14th May
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Steven_RW said:
Aces_High said:
The game is more of a time sink than Tenet, but it’s incredible.
What is tenet?
You need to look at some media outside of fromsoft mate wink

Trustmeimadoctor

8,086 posts

132 months

Saturday 14th May
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Even I have to admit it's more fun than tenent

toastyhamster

1,433 posts

73 months

Saturday 14th May
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Aces_High said:
toastyhamster said:
I think I'm hours away from anything like that, am starting to wonder how many hours (40 so far) I'm going to pump into this, I've killed Godrick and now Rennala (stupid two stages, I barely made it past the first one initially), and foolishly thought I was making some progress, then I spotted my 8% completed stat and later on unlocked the maps for Altus and Leyndell and realised how much there is still to do/explore. I've been doing quite a lot of the non-main stuff as well, although those f*cking fingers at Carion Manor, grrrrrr.

Need Golden Scarab, that's for the weekend.
I’d totally recommend prioritising that scarab - it makes a big difference to rune collection and hence levelling up. Utter pain to get it though - I’d recommend getting bloodhound’s step first, so you can scoot through the scarlet rot swamp in the abandoned cave - it’s a killer. You’ll want to have max endurance and flasks still leftover, post-swampy bit, as the boss fight has 2 knights attacking you. It really is worth it though - get that scarab talisman.

One great thing I find about the game is the planning needed - to fight boss X I should really have talisman Y, but to get that it’s helpful first to have Armour Z etc. The game is more of a time sink than Tenet, but it’s incredible.
Got it, although the Scarlet Rot with a controller with drift was no fun, finally swapped the controller out and once I got past the rot with no damage I did the rest at first go, the two bosses at the end weren't very hard. The next few days is going to include clubbing seals at Palace Ledge.

Steven_RW

1,491 posts

179 months

Sunday 15th May
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ZedLeg said:
Steven_RW said:
Aces_High said:
The game is more of a time sink than Tenet, but it’s incredible.
What is tenet?
You need to look at some media outside of fromsoft mate wink
Haha - I'll take that.

I don't do facebook, twitter or instagram. Youtube a plenty and that's my lot.

Cheers

RW

Aces_High

42 posts

24 months

Steven_RW said:
On reflection and re-read I feel I need to be more clear that I stay on Torrent all of the time if possible. Where I said you need to get on torrent after the giant rolls, all going well you are still on torrent anyway, so even faster to run after him and press circle to throttle on! Good luck and look fwd to update on VICTORY.
YEEEEEESSSS! After a week of trying…. Fire Giant is now toast. Took your advice and stayed on Torrent, after first spending ages in a dungeon to find a summoning bell to get glovewort to level up Black Night Tiche to +10 to be more of a help, also used a Great Rune, then brought it all together to just get in close and behind (…..) and hacked away at that ankle. And down he went smile

Many thanks for all advice - onward I travel….

Steven_RW

1,491 posts

179 months

Tuesday
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Aces_High said:
Steven_RW said:
On reflection and re-read I feel I need to be more clear that I stay on Torrent all of the time if possible. Where I said you need to get on torrent after the giant rolls, all going well you are still on torrent anyway, so even faster to run after him and press circle to throttle on! Good luck and look fwd to update on VICTORY.
YEEEEEESSSS! After a week of trying…. Fire Giant is now toast. Took your advice and stayed on Torrent, after first spending ages in a dungeon to find a summoning bell to get glovewort to level up Black Night Tiche to +10 to be more of a help, also used a Great Rune, then brought it all together to just get in close and behind (…..) and hacked away at that ankle. And down he went smile

Many thanks for all advice - onward I travel….
Revel in your glory :-). I just pointed you in the right direction. Keep the updates coming.

+10 Tiche is just a fantastic spirit ashes. +10 Dung Eater (though a pain in the butt to get) is also fantastic.

toastyhamster

1,433 posts

73 months

Yesterday (21:14)
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Creamed Radahn a couple of days ago. Today came up against Valiant Gargoyle, WTAF!!! Resorted to YouTube to help, to my dismay found a second one joins in! Jeez.

Currently wandering round some unexplored areas around Altus Plateau, and will return. Plenty to go at yet.

Not looking forward to the Fire Giant battle, but that's miles off for me. 52 hours and counting.

Trustmeimadoctor

8,086 posts

132 months

Yesterday (23:15)
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Just got to the final boss first bit very easy second bit yeah didn't last long