Elden Ring

[FourWheelDrift]

"Elden Ring Has Secretly Made Some of its Bosses Less Challenging"

https://wccftech.com/elden-ring-bosses-less-challe...

[Steven_RW]

Ruskie said:

I’m at a bit of a crossroads. 40 hours in, not used google or any guides but I think that I am missing out now in terms of I don’t know what my setup should be or the best items. Feels like cheating a bit but I’m a bit stuck.

Nothing wrong with reaching out to the Elden Ring community and finding out what to do next. The game is designed around that concept. Nearly no one will entirely luck there way to finding the correct next steps throughout 100% of the game.

[deckster]

Steven_RW said:

Ruskie said:

I’m at a bit of a crossroads. 40 hours in, not used google or any guides but I think that I am missing out now in terms of I don’t know what my setup should be or the best items. Feels like cheating a bit but I’m a bit stuck.

Nothing wrong with reaching out to the Elden Ring community and finding out what to do next. The game is designed around that concept. Nearly no one will entirely luck there way to finding the correct next steps throughout 100% of the game.

Completely. I also generally play games without looking for help, but Elden Ring is specifically designed to be opaque and by not using the community brain to help you out you're playing with one hand tied behind your back. And you'll probably miss half the game as well.

[Ruskie]

deckster said:

Steven_RW said:

Ruskie said:

I’m at a bit of a crossroads. 40 hours in, not used google or any guides but I think that I am missing out now in terms of I don’t know what my setup should be or the best items. Feels like cheating a bit but I’m a bit stuck.

Nothing wrong with reaching out to the Elden Ring community and finding out what to do next. The game is designed around that concept. Nearly no one will entirely luck there way to finding the correct next steps throughout 100% of the game.

Completely. I also generally play games without looking for help, but Elden Ring is specifically designed to be opaque and by not using the community brain to help you out you're playing with one hand tied behind your back. And you'll probably miss half the game as well.

Duly noted!

[Ruskie]

Ruskie said:

deckster said:

Steven_RW said:

Ruskie said:

I’m at a bit of a crossroads. 40 hours in, not used google or any guides but I think that I am missing out now in terms of I don’t know what my setup should be or the best items. Feels like cheating a bit but I’m a bit stuck.

Nothing wrong with reaching out to the Elden Ring community and finding out what to do next. The game is designed around that concept. Nearly no one will entirely luck there way to finding the correct next steps throughout 100% of the game.

Completely. I also generally play games without looking for help, but Elden Ring is specifically designed to be opaque and by not using the community brain to help you out you're playing with one hand tied behind your back. And you'll probably miss half the game as well.

Duly noted!

Googled Grand Decimus lift. I would if never found the two parts it got the Radogan Soreseal without doing that.

[Aces_High]

Finally - Elden Lord! After banging my head against a virtual wall for days, trying every possible weapon and strategy against Radagon and the Beast…I set off to find the Shabriri’s Woe talisman, which attracts enemies. Got it, equipped it, entered the arena, summoned Mimic Tear (who also has the Woe) and he got stuck and attracted most (not all…) attention. Unequipped my own Woe and set to work, viciously taking down Boss 1….then I have the Number of the Beast (see wot I did there) and with some practised rolls and jumps, laid into it while the mimic took more damage. He couldn’t last long and down he went, but I was close. Didn’t get greedy - run behind it, get 2 or 3 hits in…then it jumps away so swig a potion to restore health, dodge the swipes and lasers/stars and repeat, repeat etc…then it’s done!

Phew.

I don’t think I can do a Journey 2 but I’ll lap up the inevitable DLC. Awesome game. The variety, the gameplay mechanics, the strategies - just magnificent.

[Steven_RW]

Aces_High said:

Finally - Elden Lord! After banging my head against a virtual wall for days, trying every possible weapon and strategy against Radagon and the Beast…I set off to find the Shabriri’s Woe talisman, which attracts enemies. Got it, equipped it, entered the arena, summoned Mimic Tear (who also has the Woe) and he got stuck and attracted most (not all…) attention. Unequipped my own Woe and set to work, viciously taking down Boss 1….then I have the Number of the Beast (see wot I did there) and with some practised rolls and jumps, laid into it while the mimic took more damage. He couldn’t last long and down he went, but I was close. Didn’t get greedy - run behind it, get 2 or 3 hits in…then it jumps away so swig a potion to restore health, dodge the swipes and lasers/stars and repeat, repeat etc…then it’s done!

Phew.

I don’t think I can do a Journey 2 but I’ll lap up the inevitable DLC. Awesome game. The variety, the gameplay mechanics, the strategies - just magnificent.

Winner :-)

[toastyhamster]

Finally got to the Fire Giant. Downed him first time!

Still find some lesser parts of the game unbelievably difficult. Sol Castle I really struggled with and I completely fail on the Astel in Yelough Anix Tunnel so I don't fancy my chances against the one in Lake of Rot yet, which I've got to but haven't yet attempted.

[MWM3]

toastyhamster said:

Finally got to the Fire Giant. Downed him first time!

Still find some lesser parts of the game unbelievably difficult. Sol Castle I really struggled with and I completely fail on the Astel in Yelough Anix Tunnel so I don't fancy my chances against the one in Lake of Rot yet, which I've got to but haven't yet attempted.

I found the one in the tunnel harder and I did it when I was quite a bit more levelled up compared to the main one in Lake of Rot.

[Aunty Pasty]

I'm level 125+ and well over 100 hours on this game. Loving it. Some bosses fell to me easily others are a real pain.

Currently stuck on the Fire Giant and Malenia. With Malenia I can get to phase 2 a few times but then she wipes me out pretty quickly afterwards. I'm primarily an Int Astrologer with a katana as backup.

[toastyhamster]

MWM3 said:

toastyhamster said:

Finally got to the Fire Giant. Downed him first time!

Still find some lesser parts of the game unbelievably difficult. Sol Castle I really struggled with and I completely fail on the Astel in Yelough Anix Tunnel so I don't fancy my chances against the one in Lake of Rot yet, which I've got to but haven't yet attempted.

I found the one in the tunnel harder and I did it when I was quite a bit more levelled up compared to the main one in Lake of Rot.

Nice one, that's Ranni's questline pretty much done. Thanks.

[FourWheelDrift]

"Elden Ring Survival Mode Mod Launches Today; Introduces Hunger and Thirst Mechanics and More"

https://wccftech.com/elden-ring-survival-mode-mod/

[deckster]

FourWheelDrift said:

"Elden Ring Survival Mode Mod Launches Today; Introduces Hunger and Thirst Mechanics and More"

https://wccftech.com/elden-ring-survival-mode-mod/

There is no game, ever, where hunger and thirst mechanics have been an enjoyable or game-enhancing addition. Even in GTA:SA, it was only fun to the extent that you could stuff yourself with burgers and turn CJ into a porker.

The rest of it sounds pretty good though. Proper dark nights would be awesome.

[Ruskie]

I had a quick look online for best swords…ended up with a bloodfang curved and some other max curved sword I already had. Upgraded them and now I’m slicing and dicing everything. Taking bosses down and no longer running from anything. Good times!

[Prinny]

Well, it’s been a while, still plugging away when I get time on this, I managed to get used to moving the camera around / locking on & off, (thanks for the tip) so things got a lot better. 120h hit last night, level 115, and I’m on Altus Plateau / Volcano Manor.

I do like to do things to completion, I’ve pretty much covered every inch of the map on the places I can get to, climbed every mountain, checked every dark shadowed nook & if an enemy drops a piece of armour, I keep going back until I’ve got the set. I guess I’m over-leveled due to this, but don’t especially care. - if I’ve covered ‘everything’ this run through, I can breeze through the 2nd and 3rd runs for the different endings (I know that much) without getting sidetracked.

Fair to say I don’t really care at all about the story, but am enjoying the challenge. However…

fking prawn things with the spear. (not the big ones in the water in Liurnia). Seriously, they do my nut in. Fast, agile & the web type thing that shoots out & gets you. Aargh! I managed to do ‘everything’ (AFAIK - I’m not looking at guides) in Liurnia, Caelid, & whatever the starting bit is that I can’t remember the name of without too much trouble until I went to the Selia crystal tunnel. That made me frustrated, but I got past it, met Radhan at the festival & got through that after a bit (I even had a go at just using the summons & not attacking personally. It would have worked too, had I not had a phone call in the middle of it - but I digress). Yeah. Prawns, fking prawns. (Hmm, I need to rewatch District 9) I slog through the lake of rot, dying a lot, finally get in a building & rest, then drop down into a temple (?) area, and the fking things are back. Bugger. There’s 3 of them just where I need to drop down. So I die, a lot. And then some more. And more. After much luck & chugging of flasks, I defeat the three of them, then move forward, and there’s about 8 of the dammed things all solo dancing away in front of a door. Nope. Nope nope nope. Not going there. Not even trying. Will come back when I’m level 6000 or something.

So I go up to the plateau, yeah, this is OK again. Go across a bridge & there’s these wheeled pepperpot things attacking me. And they open up a door and eat me. That wasn’t much fun either, but they’re not as bad as the prawns. fking Prawns; they’re my Kryptonite.

I hate this game & love the challenge in equal measure. I shall report back periodically with updates - it took me about 4 years to finish Fallout 4 to the point I felt I’d done everything, but this is more challenging skills-wise, it’ll be 2030 by the time i’m done…

blah blah - the point of all the above, what was your worst ‘regular’ enemy? not bosses, not the ‘big’ fights, just the randomly respawning adds that you need to wade through on your journey?

For me, prawns (you’d never have guessed, right?!) are number one, the pepperpot things are number two, imps in catacombs number 3. Melee build.

[Don Roque]

Probably the Lesser Wormface enemies that hang around minor Erdtrees and Farum Azula. They're quicker than they look and spew deathblight, luckily you don't need to do too much with them.

The crayfish and the tainted holy centipede monstrosities are pretty irritating too. The crayfish you can dodge around exclusively, you don't ever have to fight one.

[Steven_RW]

Prinny said:

lake of rot - Prawns after dropping down

You can just run past all of the big group of 8. Agree they can be a right pain but you can just leg it to the location past them and to the left.

Keep it up.

Did u see the video where the guy got the same spell that allowed him to shoot the same "web attack" they do? He called it revenge and went and hunted down prawns and killed them with their own style attack. :-)

[Prinny]

Further update. Now 180h in and level 161. I should stress that the only thing I’ve looked at for this game is this thread, I don’t do guides for anything unless I’m completely stuck. I’ve (so far) always managed to get past anything with perseverance &/or grinding a bit.

I got past the temple of rot (ran past the fkers, still not going head to head with them!) and so made it to the high bit of Liurnia, got the Black knife ashes. Cleared Leyendell in a day (it was raining & nothing else to do), spent hours jumping from building to building to get every last pick-up, another few hours battering rats & flowers in the sewers. Met the Dung Eater, killed him. I’m guessing (no guides, remember) that means I’m buggered for his ashes, but meh, do that on the next playthrough. Killed Mohg first go, killed Godfrey first go, got to the base of the tree with the thrones & killed that boss first go too.

Got to the snow area. The top bit was almost ridiculously easy, castle Sol took 2h, killed the boss first time out. Killed the fire-giant 2nd go. Then went down(?) to the snow/whiteout area. Wasn’t much fun until I got out of the blizzard & could see stuff again, but got through it.

I’ve now apparently set the tree alight, so the crones won’t sell me stuff anymore. (oh well). Killed the boss underground in the red bit (Mogh again) & now I am at the point where I can do either the Farum Azula or the Haligtree.

It seems to me that there’s a difficulty spike at point of burning the tree, those two areas have robbed me of any complacency I was building up with my swift progress, the skeletal misbegotten hit hard, the bubble blowing snowmen can spot you from 5000miles away, and remote detonate you while you’re looking around, which has happened more than once.

But the secret to my boss fight success?
Mimic tear +10 using bloodhound fang +10 melee, while I’m using the throw rock spell from afar. It just destroys everything, don’t care about boss phases, just stay out of the way. I rarely even pull aggro, so no need even to heal short of summoning mimic. I’m guessing there will be a boss that this tactic doesn’t work on, but not found one yet.

Oh, and I use the markers to keep track of things I still need to do. I have 10 markers currently, and 4 of them are for Runebears, they’re running the prawns (I got an ashes for them - apparently they’re called Kindred of rot) close in the frustration stakes.

Once I’ve completed the game I’ll happily read up on things I missed first time around (I honestly don’t think there’s that much, but we’ll see), I haven’t done any of the mausoleums, as every time I look at what you can get from them I can’t see that I’d use it (same with the crone in the roundtable), so I’d only be getting them for the sake of having it in the inventory. I must have well over 1 million in golden/lord runes too, just can’t bring myself to spend them, even though it’s clear the impact they have is better, the lower your level, they’re my emergency fund if I get truly stuck, I suppose.

[Ruskie]

I had about 8 weeks away from this, had just got a little bit grindy and I wasn’t making much progress. Multiplayer had completely bypassed me but I’m enjoying that aspect now. Don’t get the invading thing at all. Always super powerful and just seems counter productive.

[FourWheelDrift]

Having problems defeating Malenia?



See it's not that difficult.