The Camera can capture some fantastic moments....

[Hartge210]

[AUDIHenry]

Bushmaster said:

You do realise that all this 'beautiful sniper /confirmed kills' malarky is just WW2 Soviet propaganda, right?

You're just saying that because there were no deadly attractive women snipers from jolly old England.

[reaper668]

[Saddle bum]

AUDIHenry said:

Bushmaster said:

Mexico. said:

Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius

The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33

Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.

The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.

[Burnedout]

Saddle bum said:

AUDIHenry said:

Bushmaster said:

Mexico. said:

Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius

The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33

Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.

The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.

The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev SVT-40 a semi- auto rifle introduced into USSR service in 1938, it was chambered in the 7.62 X 54R standard issue cartridge of the day. There were sniper variants produced in this design with a 3.5X PU scope. they were effective infantry rifles however they were frequently disadvantaged by vertical shot dispersion making them unsuitable as a sniper rifle and they were withdrawn as sniper rifles in 1942.
As to being a "fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off", the persons who suffered from this shoulder destroying performance of this cartridge must have had weakened biology compared to modern man. The 7.62 X 54R in the Moisten-Nagant (bolt-action) or Tokarev rifle, (semi-auto), developed about 19 to 20 foot pounds free recoil, approximately the same as the SMLE 303 MkVII.
This sort of recoil of course is made to feel worse on your shoulder & cheek when coupled with poor stock design which a lot of military rifle designs suffered from.
A Winchester 300 Magnum has a free recoil of about 40 - 45 foot pounds in a modern sporting rifle.
The 500 Jeffery (or Schuler), which was for a time the most powerful bolt action production rifle in the world has a free recoil of 105 foot pounds in a 12 pound rifle.

[Bushmaster]

Burnedout said:

The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev

The first picture is a sniper with a Mosin-Nagant.
The second one shows a Tokarev.

[JuniorD]

pony2 said:

Lyudmila Pavlichenko, a women considered to be the best female sniper ever. Lyudmila had 309 confirmed kills during WW II including 36 Nazi snipers. She was wounded in battle four times.

I knew a female sniper. She liked to lie down and open up

[Bushmaster]

AUDIHenry said:

Bushmaster said:

You do realise that all this 'beautiful sniper /confirmed kills' malarky is just WW2 Soviet propaganda, right?

You're just saying that because there were no deadly attractive women snipers from jolly old England.

What? I give you crack sniper Corporal Petunia Ramsbottom of the Womens Royal Army Corps:

[shirt]

typical PH, an excuse to post 'chicks with guns' pics and the thread descends into an argument about what rifle she's using

[boobles]

He could hardly miss with that thing!

[PhantomHumper]

boobles said:

He could hardly miss with that thing!

It's a woman.


Just.

[boobles]

PhantomHumper said:

boobles said:

He could hardly miss with that thing!

It's a woman.


Just.

fk, what i minger!

[Dolf]

PhantomHumper said:

boobles said:

He could hardly miss with that thing!

It's a woman.


Just.

Been swimming in the wrong gene pool?

At least she's shaved for the photo...

[D14 AYS]

No way is that a bird

[Emsman]

Christ, i have been in the oub for 5 hours, and it still looks rough.

And the gun appears to be made from MDF?

Mind you, my kebab seems to be made from ste.

Goodnight everone- except for female sniper.

[A1GOY]

Emsman said:

Christ, i have been in the oub for 5 hours, and it still looks rough.

And the gun appears to be made from MDF?

Mind you, my kebab seems to be made from ste.

Goodnight everone- except for female sniper.

Class.

[skylinecrazy]

reaper668 said:

That's a brilliant picture.

[AUDIHenry]

Burnedout said:

Saddle bum said:

AUDIHenry said:

Bushmaster said:

Mexico. said:

Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius

The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33

Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.

The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.

The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev SVT-40 a semi- auto rifle introduced into USSR service in 1938, it was chambered in the 7.62 X 54R standard issue cartridge of the day. There were sniper variants produced in this design with a 3.5X PU scope. they were effective infantry rifles however they were frequently disadvantaged by vertical shot dispersion making them unsuitable as a sniper rifle and they were withdrawn as sniper rifles in 1942.
As to being a "fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off", the persons who suffered from this shoulder destroying performance of this cartridge must have had weakened biology compared to modern man. The 7.62 X 54R in the Moisten-Nagant (bolt-action) or Tokarev rifle, (semi-auto), developed about 19 to 20 foot pounds free recoil, approximately the same as the SMLE 303 MkVII.
This sort of recoil of course is made to feel worse on your shoulder & cheek when coupled with poor stock design which a lot of military rifle designs suffered from.
A Winchester 300 Magnum has a free recoil of about 40 - 45 foot pounds in a modern sporting rifle.
The 500 Jeffery (or Schuler), which was for a time the most powerful bolt action production rifle in the world has a free recoil of 105 foot pounds in a 12 pound rifle.

I owned a Mosin and fired it often. There was not ONE PERSON who wouldn't be in pain after shooting heavy ball through it. Numbers are great, but the feeling is something else and you don't know it unless you have experience.

Either you haven't shot or you've shot blanks or practice rounds.

[Wacky Racer]

[Bushmaster]

AUDIHenry said:

Burnedout said:

Saddle bum said:

AUDIHenry said:

Bushmaster said:

Mexico. said:

Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius

The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33

Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.

The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.

The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev SVT-40 a semi- auto rifle introduced into USSR service in 1938, it was chambered in the 7.62 X 54R standard issue cartridge of the day. There were sniper variants produced in this design with a 3.5X PU scope. they were effective infantry rifles however they were frequently disadvantaged by vertical shot dispersion making them unsuitable as a sniper rifle and they were withdrawn as sniper rifles in 1942.
As to being a "fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off", the persons who suffered from this shoulder destroying performance of this cartridge must have had weakened biology compared to modern man. The 7.62 X 54R in the Moisten-Nagant (bolt-action) or Tokarev rifle, (semi-auto), developed about 19 to 20 foot pounds free recoil, approximately the same as the SMLE 303 MkVII.
This sort of recoil of course is made to feel worse on your shoulder & cheek when coupled with poor stock design which a lot of military rifle designs suffered from.
A Winchester 300 Magnum has a free recoil of about 40 - 45 foot pounds in a modern sporting rifle.
The 500 Jeffery (or Schuler), which was for a time the most powerful bolt action production rifle in the world has a free recoil of 105 foot pounds in a 12 pound rifle.

I owned a Mosin and fired it often. There was not ONE PERSON who wouldn't be in pain after shooting heavy ball through it. Numbers are great, but the feeling is something else and you don't know it unless you have experience.

Either you haven't shot or you've shot blanks or practice rounds.

To be fair, the butt of the Mosin is quite small (compared to a FAL SLR, say) so there would be a lot more pressure per square inch on the shoulder, and it is capped in steel (the SLR has a plastic/rubber cap). I can imagine the Mosin not being that comfortable to fire.