The Camera can capture some fantastic moments....

The Camera can capture some fantastic moments....

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Hartge210

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Sunday 25th January 2009
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AUDIHenry

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Monday 26th January 2009
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Bushmaster said:
You do realise that all this 'beautiful sniper /confirmed kills' malarky is just WW2 Soviet propaganda, right?
You're just saying that because there were no deadly attractive women snipers from jolly old England. loser

reaper668

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Monday 26th January 2009
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Saddle bum

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234 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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AUDIHenry said:
Bushmaster said:
Mexico. said:
Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius biggrin
The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33
Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.
The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.

Burnedout

478 posts

205 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Saddle bum said:
AUDIHenry said:
Bushmaster said:
Mexico. said:
Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius biggrin
The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33
Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.
The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.
The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev SVT-40 a semi- auto rifle introduced into USSR service in 1938, it was chambered in the 7.62 X 54R standard issue cartridge of the day. There were sniper variants produced in this design with a 3.5X PU scope. they were effective infantry rifles however they were frequently disadvantaged by vertical shot dispersion making them unsuitable as a sniper rifle and they were withdrawn as sniper rifles in 1942.
As to being a "fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off", the persons who suffered from this shoulder destroying performance of this cartridge must have had weakened biology compared to modern man. The 7.62 X 54R in the Moisten-Nagant (bolt-action) or Tokarev rifle, (semi-auto), developed about 19 to 20 foot pounds free recoil, approximately the same as the SMLE 303 MkVII.
This sort of recoil of course is made to feel worse on your shoulder & cheek when coupled with poor stock design which a lot of military rifle designs suffered from.
A Winchester 300 Magnum has a free recoil of about 40 - 45 foot pounds in a modern sporting rifle.
The 500 Jeffery (or Schuler), which was for a time the most powerful bolt action production rifle in the world has a free recoil of 105 foot pounds in a 12 pound rifle.

Bushmaster

27,452 posts

294 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Burnedout said:
The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev
The first picture is a sniper with a Mosin-Nagant.
The second one shows a Tokarev.

JuniorD

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238 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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pony2 said:


Lyudmila Pavlichenko, a women considered to be the best female sniper ever. Lyudmila had 309 confirmed kills during WW II including 36 Nazi snipers. She was wounded in battle four times.
I knew a female sniper. She liked to lie down and open up

getmecoat

Bushmaster

27,452 posts

294 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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AUDIHenry said:
Bushmaster said:
You do realise that all this 'beautiful sniper /confirmed kills' malarky is just WW2 Soviet propaganda, right?
You're just saying that because there were no deadly attractive women snipers from jolly old England. loser
What? I give you crack sniper Corporal Petunia Ramsbottom of the Womens Royal Army Corps:


shirt

24,306 posts

216 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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typical PH, an excuse to post 'chicks with guns' pics and the thread descends into an argument about what rifle she's using hehe


boobles

15,241 posts

230 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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He could hardly miss with that thing! biggrin

PhantomHumper

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205 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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boobles said:
He could hardly miss with that thing! biggrin
It's a woman.


Just.

boobles

15,241 posts

230 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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PhantomHumper said:
boobles said:
He could hardly miss with that thing! biggrin
It's a woman.


Just.
fk, what i minger!

Dolf

487 posts

228 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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PhantomHumper said:
boobles said:
He could hardly miss with that thing! biggrin
It's a woman.


Just.
yikes Been swimming in the wrong gene pool?

At least she's shaved for the photo...

D14 AYS

3,696 posts

225 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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No way is that a bird yikes

Emsman

7,061 posts

205 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Christ, i have been in the oub for 5 hours, and it still looks rough.

And the gun appears to be made from MDF?

Mind you, my kebab seems to be made from ste.

Goodnight everone- except for female sniper.


A1GOY

1,521 posts

217 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Emsman said:
Christ, i have been in the oub for 5 hours, and it still looks rough.

And the gun appears to be made from MDF?

Mind you, my kebab seems to be made from ste.

Goodnight everone- except for female sniper.
Class.

skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

209 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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reaper668 said:
hehe

That's a brilliant picture.

AUDIHenry

2,201 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Burnedout said:
Saddle bum said:
AUDIHenry said:
Bushmaster said:
Mexico. said:
Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius biggrin
The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33
Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.
The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.
The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev SVT-40 a semi- auto rifle introduced into USSR service in 1938, it was chambered in the 7.62 X 54R standard issue cartridge of the day. There were sniper variants produced in this design with a 3.5X PU scope. they were effective infantry rifles however they were frequently disadvantaged by vertical shot dispersion making them unsuitable as a sniper rifle and they were withdrawn as sniper rifles in 1942.
As to being a "fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off", the persons who suffered from this shoulder destroying performance of this cartridge must have had weakened biology compared to modern man. The 7.62 X 54R in the Moisten-Nagant (bolt-action) or Tokarev rifle, (semi-auto), developed about 19 to 20 foot pounds free recoil, approximately the same as the SMLE 303 MkVII.
This sort of recoil of course is made to feel worse on your shoulder & cheek when coupled with poor stock design which a lot of military rifle designs suffered from.
A Winchester 300 Magnum has a free recoil of about 40 - 45 foot pounds in a modern sporting rifle.
The 500 Jeffery (or Schuler), which was for a time the most powerful bolt action production rifle in the world has a free recoil of 105 foot pounds in a 12 pound rifle.
I owned a Mosin and fired it often. There was not ONE PERSON who wouldn't be in pain after shooting heavy ball through it. Numbers are great, but the feeling is something else and you don't know it unless you have experience.

Either you haven't shot or you've shot blanks or practice rounds.

Wacky Racer

39,747 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Bushmaster

27,452 posts

294 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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AUDIHenry said:
Burnedout said:
Saddle bum said:
AUDIHenry said:
Bushmaster said:
Mexico. said:
Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius biggrin
The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33
Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.
The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.
The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev SVT-40 a semi- auto rifle introduced into USSR service in 1938, it was chambered in the 7.62 X 54R standard issue cartridge of the day. There were sniper variants produced in this design with a 3.5X PU scope. they were effective infantry rifles however they were frequently disadvantaged by vertical shot dispersion making them unsuitable as a sniper rifle and they were withdrawn as sniper rifles in 1942.
As to being a "fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off", the persons who suffered from this shoulder destroying performance of this cartridge must have had weakened biology compared to modern man. The 7.62 X 54R in the Moisten-Nagant (bolt-action) or Tokarev rifle, (semi-auto), developed about 19 to 20 foot pounds free recoil, approximately the same as the SMLE 303 MkVII.
This sort of recoil of course is made to feel worse on your shoulder & cheek when coupled with poor stock design which a lot of military rifle designs suffered from.
A Winchester 300 Magnum has a free recoil of about 40 - 45 foot pounds in a modern sporting rifle.
The 500 Jeffery (or Schuler), which was for a time the most powerful bolt action production rifle in the world has a free recoil of 105 foot pounds in a 12 pound rifle.
I owned a Mosin and fired it often. There was not ONE PERSON who wouldn't be in pain after shooting heavy ball through it. Numbers are great, but the feeling is something else and you don't know it unless you have experience.

Either you haven't shot or you've shot blanks or practice rounds.
To be fair, the butt of the Mosin is quite small (compared to a FAL SLR, say) so there would be a lot more pressure per square inch on the shoulder, and it is capped in steel (the SLR has a plastic/rubber cap). I can imagine the Mosin not being that comfortable to fire.


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