The Camera can capture some fantastic moments....

[A1GOY]

Emsman said:

Christ, i have been in the oub for 5 hours, and it still looks rough.

And the gun appears to be made from MDF?

Mind you, my kebab seems to be made from ste.

Goodnight everone- except for female sniper.

Class.

[skylinecrazy]

reaper668 said:

That's a brilliant picture.

[AUDIHenry]

Burnedout said:

Saddle bum said:

AUDIHenry said:

Bushmaster said:

Mexico. said:

Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius

The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33

Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.

The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.

The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev SVT-40 a semi- auto rifle introduced into USSR service in 1938, it was chambered in the 7.62 X 54R standard issue cartridge of the day. There were sniper variants produced in this design with a 3.5X PU scope. they were effective infantry rifles however they were frequently disadvantaged by vertical shot dispersion making them unsuitable as a sniper rifle and they were withdrawn as sniper rifles in 1942.
As to being a "fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off", the persons who suffered from this shoulder destroying performance of this cartridge must have had weakened biology compared to modern man. The 7.62 X 54R in the Moisten-Nagant (bolt-action) or Tokarev rifle, (semi-auto), developed about 19 to 20 foot pounds free recoil, approximately the same as the SMLE 303 MkVII.
This sort of recoil of course is made to feel worse on your shoulder & cheek when coupled with poor stock design which a lot of military rifle designs suffered from.
A Winchester 300 Magnum has a free recoil of about 40 - 45 foot pounds in a modern sporting rifle.
The 500 Jeffery (or Schuler), which was for a time the most powerful bolt action production rifle in the world has a free recoil of 105 foot pounds in a 12 pound rifle.

I owned a Mosin and fired it often. There was not ONE PERSON who wouldn't be in pain after shooting heavy ball through it. Numbers are great, but the feeling is something else and you don't know it unless you have experience.

Either you haven't shot or you've shot blanks or practice rounds.

[Wacky Racer]

[Bushmaster]

AUDIHenry said:

Burnedout said:

Saddle bum said:

AUDIHenry said:

Bushmaster said:

Mexico. said:

Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius

The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33

Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.

The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.

The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev SVT-40 a semi- auto rifle introduced into USSR service in 1938, it was chambered in the 7.62 X 54R standard issue cartridge of the day. There were sniper variants produced in this design with a 3.5X PU scope. they were effective infantry rifles however they were frequently disadvantaged by vertical shot dispersion making them unsuitable as a sniper rifle and they were withdrawn as sniper rifles in 1942.
As to being a "fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off", the persons who suffered from this shoulder destroying performance of this cartridge must have had weakened biology compared to modern man. The 7.62 X 54R in the Moisten-Nagant (bolt-action) or Tokarev rifle, (semi-auto), developed about 19 to 20 foot pounds free recoil, approximately the same as the SMLE 303 MkVII.
This sort of recoil of course is made to feel worse on your shoulder & cheek when coupled with poor stock design which a lot of military rifle designs suffered from.
A Winchester 300 Magnum has a free recoil of about 40 - 45 foot pounds in a modern sporting rifle.
The 500 Jeffery (or Schuler), which was for a time the most powerful bolt action production rifle in the world has a free recoil of 105 foot pounds in a 12 pound rifle.

I owned a Mosin and fired it often. There was not ONE PERSON who wouldn't be in pain after shooting heavy ball through it. Numbers are great, but the feeling is something else and you don't know it unless you have experience.

Either you haven't shot or you've shot blanks or practice rounds.

To be fair, the butt of the Mosin is quite small (compared to a FAL SLR, say) so there would be a lot more pressure per square inch on the shoulder, and it is capped in steel (the SLR has a plastic/rubber cap). I can imagine the Mosin not being that comfortable to fire.

[Burnedout]

Bushmaster said:

AUDIHenry said:

Burnedout said:

Saddle bum said:

AUDIHenry said:

Bushmaster said:

Mexico. said:

Roza Yegorovna Shanina she was very good with sniping she was in the 184th Red Banner Rifle Division She was responsible for 54 confirmed kills, including 12 enemy snipers, during the Battle of Vilnius

The weapon she is holding is an 1891-30 Mosin-Nagant, 7.62mm, bolt-action. It can hold two rounds in the internal chamber below the receiver as well as one in the breech. Hers is the sniper version, in which the bolt is angled downwards so it doesn't interfere with the telescopic sight; most had straight bolts.

I have one too!

(unfortunately deactivated).

The one Jude Law uses in 'Enemy at the Gates' does not appear to be a sniper version as it has the straight bolt.

Edited by Bushmaster on Sunday 25th January 14:33

Just want to add that it is the 7.62x54R cartridge, not the more common 7.62x39 as found in the AK47 and its variants. It is a fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off, so the fact that she was able to not only handle it but master it is a feat in its own.

The rifle ain't so bad, the carbine is a little bh.

The Rifle she is holding in a Tokarev SVT-40 a semi- auto rifle introduced into USSR service in 1938, it was chambered in the 7.62 X 54R standard issue cartridge of the day. There were sniper variants produced in this design with a 3.5X PU scope. they were effective infantry rifles however they were frequently disadvantaged by vertical shot dispersion making them unsuitable as a sniper rifle and they were withdrawn as sniper rifles in 1942.
As to being a "fearsome gun with a kick that will break your shoulder off", the persons who suffered from this shoulder destroying performance of this cartridge must have had weakened biology compared to modern man. The 7.62 X 54R in the Moisten-Nagant (bolt-action) or Tokarev rifle, (semi-auto), developed about 19 to 20 foot pounds free recoil, approximately the same as the SMLE 303 MkVII.
This sort of recoil of course is made to feel worse on your shoulder & cheek when coupled with poor stock design which a lot of military rifle designs suffered from.
A Winchester 300 Magnum has a free recoil of about 40 - 45 foot pounds in a modern sporting rifle.
The 500 Jeffery (or Schuler), which was for a time the most powerful bolt action production rifle in the world has a free recoil of 105 foot pounds in a 12 pound rifle.

I owned a Mosin and fired it often. There was not ONE PERSON who wouldn't be in pain after shooting heavy ball through it. Numbers are great, but the feeling is something else and you don't know it unless you have experience.

Either you haven't shot or you've shot blanks or practice rounds.

To be fair, the butt of the Mosin is quite small (compared to a FAL SLR, say) so there would be a lot more pressure per square inch on the shoulder, and it is capped in steel (the SLR has a plastic/rubber cap). I can imagine the Mosin not being that comfortable to fire.

Please dont take my post the wrong way - recoil is not pleasant! I am merely trying to point out that recoil is physics, simple as that.

I presently own 7 long arms and have been actively shooting & hunting for nearly 40 years. Until just recently I owned a 500 Jeffery & used it frequently. I reload my own ammunition for the rifles I use except a 22LR.
In a past life I studied Ballistics & worked in the field.

[Wacky Racer]

[Bushmaster]

Wacky Racer said:

Wasn't he taken away and shot in the end?

[Cara Van Man]

Bushmaster said:

Wacky Racer said:

Wasn't he taken away and shot in the end?

I think he got 20 hours community service for shoplifting and breech of the peace.

[Wacky Racer]

Bushmaster said:

Wacky Racer said:

Wasn't he taken away and shot in the end?

Who knows??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man

[Bushmaster]

This is why you should never dive, dive, dive in the shallow end.

[alsem]

did i park my car on the left or the right?

[boobles]

A1GOY said:

williamp said:

stephen300o said:

A1GOY said:

hugoagogo said:

Mexico. said:

This might be a repost

that aircraft hangar fire suppression test got out of hand, eh?

Where is that?

I could be mistaken but I think it's Norwich.

Yep. Its out by the ring road. Lotus factory on the left hand side, under the cotton wool

How can somewhere so manky look so nice?!

Are you sure that is norwich?

[R.P.McMurphy]

Whoooooosh.................

[callyman]

R.P.McMurphy said:

Whoooooosh.................

+1

[callyman]

boobles said:

A1GOY said:

williamp said:

stephen300o said:

A1GOY said:

hugoagogo said:

Mexico. said:

This might be a repost

that aircraft hangar fire suppression test got out of hand, eh?

Where is that?

I could be mistaken but I think it's Norwich.

Yep. Its out by the ring road. Lotus factory on the left hand side, under the cotton wool

How can somewhere so manky look so nice?!

Are you sure that is norwich?

Of course it's not you spanner. It's Newbury.

[boobles]

Oh, i thought it was King Nasty's.

[callyman]

boobles said:

Oh, i thought it was King Nasty's.

How predictable.

[boobles]

Ofcourse

[speedychrissie]

callyman said:

boobles said:

Mexico. said:

This might be a repost

Are you sure that is norwich?

Of course it's not you spanner. It's Newbury.

really? I lived in Newbury for 8 years and I dont recognise any of that!