Engine start bosch issues 280i

Engine start bosch issues 280i

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IamWedgend

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53 posts

5 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Cheers!
I'll head out and snap a picture as soon as the rain stops.
So it's all fully functional? Would you mind if I asked why you swapped it out?
Best,
J

IamWedgend

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53 posts

5 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Right so it's the black bit that the throttle cable slots into to hold it in place. Mine's just a bit of metal someone stuck on, so I grabbed a picture of what it should look like - below

Adrian@

3,726 posts

231 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Ah, then, mine is an 86 US spec (TVR engineered!) conversion of that bracket, so it misses the bonnet (hood) are were looking at the same technically well thought out TVR engineered part...lol !



I changed it just because I could, whilst I changed all the injectors, I wanted to have all the parts to substitute. A@

Edited by Adrian@ on Wednesday 16th October 17:31

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

53 posts

5 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Haha that's the part, but yours is the picture of elegance compared to mine, which is literally a rusty bit of metal. It was holding the cable at the wrong angle and preventing the throttle opening fully. (Mine is a 83 auto)

Sounds great, I think I'd love to take it off your hands. One last question, it's not LHD, is it?


Adrian@

3,726 posts

231 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Mine is RHD, let me look for the metal bracket (I cannot say that the bracket came with the assembly though), BUT I will not of thrown it away AND I have broken a 280i Auto in the dim distant past so I might have another bracket here. There is another issue in that your cable 'looks' to be on an adjustable threaded boss through that bracket (mine is the Ford square clip arrangement) and the OE item is a cropped Granada/Capri unit with piece of bar welded on (real TVR engineering) that could be copied to good effect with a keyhole slot that the inner cable would drop through).
Let me know your thoughts...and I am happy for the body to go to you FOC as long as the shipping is covered. A@

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

53 posts

5 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Blimey thank you so much for all the help! Really above and beyond. I'd love to take the body and I'll happily throw in a little extra for your trouble on top of postage. I'll ping you my address and you can shoot me your PayPal.

Re. the bracket, if you do find a spare that would be great, It's pretty easy to find a throttle cable replacement that should go with either of those two setups you mentioned, but I'm drawing a blank on brackets. If not, no worries! I have a few other lines of inquiry.

Oh and mine is RHD too, it just occurred to me yours might not have been becuase you mentioned it was American spec.

Thanks again, seriously appreciate this.

Best,
J

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

53 posts

5 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Adrian@ said:
Mine is RHD, let me look for the metal bracket (I cannot say that the bracket came with the assembly though), BUT I will not of thrown it away AND I have broken a 280i Auto in the dim distant past so I might have another bracket here. There is another issue in that your cable 'looks' to be on an adjustable threaded boss through that bracket (mine is the Ford square clip arrangement) and the OE item is a cropped Granada/Capri unit with piece of bar welded on (real TVR engineering) that could be copied to good effect with a keyhole slot that the inner cable would drop through).
Let me know your thoughts...and I am happy for the body to go to you FOC as long as the shipping is covered. A@
Hi Adrian,

I don't think your settings allow personal messages, would you mind messaging me and i'll sort you out with payment?
Cheers!

J

Mr Tank

5,778 posts

224 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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Hi Ian

Looking at your pics the bracket you have looks like a standard throttle bracket for the 280i, it just looks like it needs a coat of paint.



This is a pic from the TVR Wedge workshop manual showing the throttle plate etc.

Andy

Adrian@

3,726 posts

231 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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J, I will send a message...Andy, my thoughts here are that TVR used the modified bracket as in my car from very early on, as that i what I have seen all my time working on and owning 280's manuals (I have the auto bracket here somewhere as I broke a 280i Auto and I know I kept it), BUT, as this is an automatic and it has a dual cable connection (however, not clip on cable) but with additional kick down, which as you say is going to need to to be prepared and painted.
(TBH I cannot say I have every trusted TVR to publish a pictorial of anything to enable me to quote it as what was on a car! LOL)
A@
Andy, do you still have contacts with the owner of your old 280i auto for them to take pictures?



Edited by Adrian@ on Friday 18th October 10:21

mrzigazaga

18,466 posts

114 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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IamWedgend said:
Hey Guys, update!

The good news is that the issue isn't the pump or accumulator, it's the hose, which is a bit old and kinked, reducing flow.

The bad news is that I also need a new Throttle Body/Housing, and a new bracket, as apparently the one I have is bodged on from something else and is messing with the arm movement.

I'm getting a new set of hoses and a new filter, just in case - BUT does anyone have a clue how I would get a new throttle body?
That is good news...smile
Throttle body...they are out there but finding one with the bracket is not easy...I had one but I think I gave it away, I will check tomorrow for you...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&...
Hopefully Adrian comes up trumps...smile

Ziga smile


Adrian@

3,726 posts

231 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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it's on it's way...A@

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

53 posts

5 months

Thursday 24th October 2019
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Problem solved!

Just picked it up today, new fuel lines, filter and throttle body kindly provided by the Gentleman Adrian. It's running smooth as butter, nice even revs, easy start at Cold and Hot.

Turned out the bracket was fine with a throttle body that wasn't falling to pieces, my apologies to the fine people at TVR.

Thank you all for the input! Couldn't have done it without you all.

mrzigazaga

18,466 posts

114 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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IamWedgend said:
Problem solved!

Just picked it up today, new fuel lines, filter and throttle body kindly provided by the Gentleman Adrian. It's running smooth as butter, nice even revs, easy start at Cold and Hot.

Turned out the bracket was fine with a throttle body that wasn't falling to pieces, my apologies to the fine people at TVR.

Thank you all for the input! Couldn't have done it without you all.
Awesome...enjoy smile

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

53 posts

5 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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False confidence alas, took it out and after 50 miles all the old issues returned. Had a look and the new fuel filter is leaking at both ends, looks like it's either faulty or wrongly fitted so back it goes!

Grady

1,151 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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Which or how much fuel line did you replace? Car is not with me but isn't it hard plastic line from the pump (well just after the pump) to the meter head?

IamWedgend

Original Poster:

53 posts

5 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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Grady said:
Which or how much fuel line did you replace? Car is not with me but isn't it hard plastic line from the pump (well just after the pump) to the meter head?
Re the line - just replaced the soft lines. The leak was the new washers that came with the filter not fitting right, but I think I've resolved that.

HOWEVER - my fuel pump will need replacing, all these other issues seem to have knackered it. I need some advice here if possible. I have two options

1.Just before I bought the car the last owner replaced it with a cheap model from ebay. I can chase up the warranty, but I can't help suspecting that the quality of the pump perhaps contributed to my issues. This is the model in question: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232204259673?ul_noapp=t...

2. The other option is to get the model from TVR parts. It's about 100 pounds more expensive though. https://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/part-details/tvr-0...

Does anyone have any experience with either pump, or an alternative suggestion that's worked for you?

Best,
J


Wedgehead

111 posts

15 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Hi. I don’t have previous experience to share but this same set up was used in many different cars. I’m sure with a little (or a lot) of cross referencing you could find it.
Ford ranger pick up trucks
Ford Mustang 2’s
Ford Capri’s
I’m sure this was a universal pump from back in the day.

Wedgehead

111 posts

15 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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I’m sure there are other sources for Capri parts but here is one that may be able to point you in right direction if you email Them https://www.teamblitz.com/product-category/fuel-sy...

Wedgehead

111 posts

15 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Forget the mustang 2 and ranger. Forgot they had carbs.

mrzigazaga

18,466 posts

114 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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