Petition to Welsh Govt. against 20mph limit

Petition to Welsh Govt. against 20mph limit

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Tyre Tread

Original Poster:

10,579 posts

224 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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In case anybody is interested: https://petitions.senedd.wales/petitions/245406

It's at 7236 signatures as at the point of posting this.

Trev450

6,448 posts

180 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Done.

FlabbyMidgets

521 posts

95 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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There is a main road near my dads that has had posts put in on every single side road. I assume these are 20/30 signs but currently covered in tape. Would be interested to see what the cost of all this is.

Spevs

414 posts

36 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Done

Vincecj

475 posts

131 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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FlabbyMidgets said:
There is a main road near my dads that has had posts put in on every single side road. I assume these are 20/30 signs but currently covered in tape. Would be interested to see what the cost of all this is.
I think £32,000,000

bazza white

3,627 posts

136 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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signed. Its going to be absolutely hateful.

Blue_star

60 posts

24 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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8272.

Those guys have completely lost their minds.

Geffg

1,235 posts

113 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Signed.

The Nige

173 posts

197 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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9,232coffee

CoolHands

19,534 posts

203 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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So scuse my ignorance what is happening / changing? I’m in England.

Edited by CoolHands on Saturday 15th April 21:37

Mr Whippy

30,008 posts

249 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Looks like all 30s to be 20s.

Seems a bit excessive given the 30s creep we’ve seen in the last 20 years.


I’m sure it’ll be widely ignored.


Before you know it there will be a reduction in tourism, studies showing no benefit to anything, but lots of costs, and then another £50mm spent changing it all back.


When will voters start holding their elected representatives to account?
Money wasting idiocy reigns supreme in Wales.

Geffg

1,235 posts

113 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Give it 10yrs they’ll be down to 10mph, as we’ve got to make sure pedestrians who cant be responsible for themselves are protected and hinder everyone else. Then after that we can all get rid of cars as it’ll be quicker to walk. Get rid of foreign travel on planes, ships etc as they pollute too much. This on top of no one can have a laugh with each other, no banter. Should be a fun world we will soon live in.

framerateuk

2,783 posts

192 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Mr Whippy said:
Looks like all 30s to be 20s.

Seems a bit excessive given the 30s creep we’ve seen in the last 20 years.

I’m sure it’ll be widely ignored.
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I'm not sure the blanket change is going to sort the problem.
My village has a 30 limit, which is quite high given how twisty and narrow the streets are.

Lots of people ignore the 30 limit as it is, and it's pretty dangerous to be honest, especially given there's sections in the middle of the village with no pavements, forcing you to walk on the road.

I don't see a 20 limit sorting that issue, as those who ignore will continue to ignore.

I that it's a 'they have to be seen to be doing something' option. But that's pointless. Solve these issues properly or don't bother.

Mr Whippy

30,008 posts

249 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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framerateuk said:
Mr Whippy said:
Looks like all 30s to be 20s.

Seems a bit excessive given the 30s creep we’ve seen in the last 20 years.

I’m sure it’ll be widely ignored.
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I'm not sure the blanket change is going to sort the problem.
My village has a 30 limit, which is quite high given how twisty and narrow the streets are.

Lots of people ignore the 30 limit as it is, and it's pretty dangerous to be honest, especially given there's sections in the middle of the village with no pavements, forcing you to walk on the road.

I don't see a 20 limit sorting that issue, as those who ignore will continue to ignore.

I that it's a 'they have to be seen to be doing something' option. But that's pointless. Solve these issues properly or don't bother.
Yup.

Solutions:
Traffic calming.
By-pass.
Average speed camera over village.
Etc

But a blanket limit change, cheap and they can say all sorts of nonsense to say how it’s better.


My local big village (a town but feels villagey) is the same.
20mph but many people, especially locals, drive like idiots, park on the double yellows, mount pavements at speed to pass other cars etc.
I’m amazed no one is killed. It puts me off using the high street in a relaxed way. I don’t take my young kids there.

The pedestrian crossing was even taken out by a speeding local in a LR Discovery, somehow got out of shape and rolled over the pavement/barrier area.

Another car took out part of the bridge at another time.

I was nearly run over by a car overtaking a stopped car at the pedestrian crossing.


Yes, it boils my piss too that the ‘solution’ is 20mph limits, because it’s just a number on a sign.
Utterly meaningless.

rev-erend

21,538 posts

292 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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OK signed.

Now over 10,000 and will be debated and will then be totally ignored.

BoRED S2upid

20,374 posts

248 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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So every single 30mph sign in Wales would have to be replaced with 20mph? Isn’t that going to cost a lot? I guess the fines pay for it in the long run. Everyone in Wales is going to have a lot of pints on their license 3points for 23mph ouch.

Tyre Tread

Original Poster:

10,579 posts

224 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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rev-erend said:
OK signed.

Now over 10,000 and will be debated and will then be totally ignored.
I thought that too and then i re-read the wording on the Welsh Gubberment website which says"The Petitions Committee considers all petitions that get more than 10,000 signatures for a debate" so not even any guarantee that it will make any difference whatsoever.



Fusion777

2,364 posts

56 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Signed. 11,104.

undred orse

1,006 posts

204 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Done

11278

But no chance they’ll take the slightest bit of notice.
Plaid continue to betray the best interests of Wales and labour will continue their business wrecking agenda unchecked.

Penny Whistle

5,843 posts

178 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Mr Whippy said:
When will voters start holding their elected representatives to account?
Money wasting idiocy reigns supreme in Wales.
But they've announced they're changing the name of the Brecon Beacons. Surely that's money well spent (not) ? Though I'm hoping it's just a delayed April Fool.