M20 Average speed cams

M20 Average speed cams

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vpr

Original Poster:

2,807 posts

187 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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Do they actually work, am I the only mug that dribbles along Mile after mile at an indicated 55 only to see people fly past me at 70 or 80

I noticed today that almost all foreign cars were far in excess of 50mph, do our muppets not catch up and prosecute them abroad?

Ducati0

129 posts

83 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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I reckon they work mate, as you know I use M20 a lot, not worth taking the risk of going over 54

Driversmatter

30 posts

42 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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I deliver NSAC courses - they work!!!

vpr

Original Poster:

2,807 posts

187 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Yeah I’m sure they work but why do people ignore them and are foreign drivers prosecuted?

P2KKA

19 posts

9 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Im not sure if the very short section around J8 coastbound is active. There doesnt appear to be any NSL signs since at least this week after you get to the J8 slip.

Coming J9-8 I always sit at 52~ ish on the speedo.

Roger Woods

603 posts

160 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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They work... I was caught near ashford doing 56 getting past a foreign lorry....

Flanners

56 posts

79 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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vpr said:
Do they actually work, am I the only mug that dribbles along Mile after mile at an indicated 55 only to see people fly past me at 70 or 80

I noticed today that almost all foreign cars were far in excess of 50mph, do our muppets not catch up and prosecute them abroad?
I've heard DVLA provide data to the French for speed fines here for UK cars driven over there and there are drivers receiving fines from the French BUT the UK does not receive the ownewrship data or enforce technological based enforcement by EU drivers. in the UK...not sure if it is true, would not surprise me.

ManorParker

12 posts

8 months

Friday 17th May 2019
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Flanners said:
vpr said:
Do they actually work, am I the only mug that dribbles along Mile after mile at an indicated 55 only to see people fly past me at 70 or 80

I noticed today that almost all foreign cars were far in excess of 50mph, do our muppets not catch up and prosecute them abroad?
I've heard DVLA provide data to the French for speed fines here for UK cars driven over there and there are drivers receiving fines from the French BUT the UK does not receive the ownewrship data or enforce technological based enforcement by EU drivers. in the UK...not sure if it is true, would not surprise me.
I'd be interested if this is true. I drove down with my family at 50-55 in the right-hand lane with lots of cars in the left-hand land probably doing 50. A Netherlands HGV about 2metres from my boot flashing away . We pulled over as soon as I could and he cruised past at full speed followed by a couple of other Trucks from various EU countries. They really didn't seem to care about the 50 limit.

dcb

5,353 posts

214 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Ducati0 said:
I reckon they work mate, as you know I use M20 a lot, not worth taking the risk of going over 54
Averages are less than maximums.

If you never go over 54 mph, your average will be close enough to the limit
to be not worth prosecuting. 50 - 51 mph, I'd estimate.

To get an average over 55 mph, and so worth prosecuting, you
would have to do a lot of the journey over 60 mph.

BTW, I notice a very long (13 mile ?) section of speed camera-ed road works westbound
from Ashford to Maidstone. Such a long section so strictly controlled at such
a low speed is, IMHO, dangerous because it induces boredom and so inattention.

Personally, I was so bored, I counted the number of Brit drivers who
seemed to have no idea of the UK "drive left" rule.

It goes without saying that no workers were seen in the roadworks
and evidence of activity was low to non-existant.

It rather spoilt the return from a lovely weekend away in Belgium and France.

Perhaps there should be a limit of five miles or so of speed camera-ed
roadworks. More than that surely can't be all worked on at the same time ?

vpr

Original Poster:

2,807 posts

187 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Agreed wholeheartedly, that stretch is absolute boredom

Even at 70 I start losing concentration, the powers that be don’t seem to understand this issue. Robot mode

Inverness

497 posts

127 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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dcb said:
Averages are less than maximums.

If you never go over 54 mph, your average will be close enough to the limit
to be not worth prosecuting. 50 - 51 mph, I'd estimate.

To get an average over 55 mph, and so worth prosecuting, you
would have to do a lot of the journey over 60 mph.

BTW, I notice a very long (13 mile ?) section of speed camera-ed road works westbound
from Ashford to Maidstone. Such a long section so strictly controlled at such
a low speed is, IMHO, dangerous because it induces boredom and so inattention.

Personally, I was so bored, I counted the number of Brit drivers who
seemed to have no idea of the UK "drive left" rule.

It goes without saying that no workers were seen in the roadworks
and evidence of activity was low to non-existant.

It rather spoilt the return from a lovely weekend away in Belgium and France.

Perhaps there should be a limit of five miles or so of speed camera-ed
roadworks. More than that surely can't be all worked on at the same time ?
The reason you did not see any activity is these are not for roadworks but incase we ever leave europe and there is sudden rush to get out of here!

They were on both sides but removed the one coast bound, but left the one London bound. No idea why!

m4tti

4,793 posts

104 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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What they should actually do it’s stop pissing around wasting money on the smart motorway gantry garbage.

Then we would’nt have all the disruption and bogus road works.

The m25 is a more dangerous place with them, with all the stupid sudden drops to 40mph, people slamming on brakes etc.

vpr

Original Poster:

2,807 posts

187 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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So case in point today.

I’m doing an indicated 55 on the boring M20 as I reckon that’s about 50mph true. (Give or take?

Audi with German plates right up my chuff. When I move over he speeds past.

2 minutes later a big white Van with Polish plates speeds past at what must have been close to 90 mph.

I’d love to know if they get persecuted but I fear i know the answer to that.

danllama

4,732 posts

91 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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When will the 50/60 limites be gone?

Moving down to folkestone soon and sick of that 14 mile 50 zone.

Sea Demon

1,106 posts

162 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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danllama said:
When will the 50/60 limites be gone?

Moving down to folkestone soon and sick of that 14 mile 50 zone.
The work between 3 & 6 is due to be completed March 2020 & then we'll have the 'Smart' motorway with variable speed limits..

danllama

4,732 posts

91 months

Friday 18th October 2019
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Sea Demon said:
danllama said:
When will the 50/60 limites be gone?

Moving down to folkestone soon and sick of that 14 mile 50 zone.
The work between 3 & 6 is due to be completed March 2020 & then we'll have the 'Smart' motorway with variable speed limits..
Oh joy. The days of making good progress via the m20 are gone then. I once knew someone who went from Folkestone to Thurrock in 45 mins whistle

Raven Flyer

1,542 posts

173 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Sea Demon said:
danllama said:
When will the 50/60 limites be gone?

Moving down to folkestone soon and sick of that 14 mile 50 zone.
The work between 3 & 6 is due to be completed March 2020 & then we'll have the 'Smart' motorway with variable speed limits..
The whole 'Smart Motorway' thing is terrifying. There aren't the gantries to get people out of the slowest lane in time, if someone breaks down. Add to that that this road is the first experience of driving in the UK for many cars arriving via Eurostar.

There have already been people killed on the M1 smart motorway. The M20 is a disaster waiting to happen.

Far Cough

1,154 posts

117 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Doing away with the hard shoulder is madness. Stuck in a huge queue the other day and gues what ...... The plod and ambulance cannot get the injured due to 4 lanes of solid traffic. Genius idea !!

It should also be against the law to carry out road works for such a long stretch. Maybe one junction at a time and then move forward ??

Sea Demon

1,106 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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I commute up and down the M20 every day to Jct 7 by bike, if my bike ever breaks down or gets a puncture between Jct 3-7, which it has broken down and had a puncture just before Jct 4 before the road works, I will be screwed - I'm usually in the outside lane so if it does happen, I will just park it against the crash barrier and stand on top of the crash barrier and call for help, safest thing for me to do as I've got no chance of getting across 4 lanes of traffc in rush hour.

lickatysplit

449 posts

79 months

Friday 13th December 2019
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there was a report a month or so ago stating the council will not persecute foreign Vehicles as its too long winded and costly to chase them.
yes they do work BTW.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/hundreds...

something in here perhaps