What happened to this G4 in the end?

What happened to this G4 in the end?

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Terryg4

214 posts

58 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Yes thats massive and also the chassis arrangement is quite reinforced. As you say I think it would really need a bigger engine.
Good luck, keep the pictures coming
Terry

Terryg4

214 posts

58 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Jon
Do you know whether the front inner wings and radiator has to be modified for the different bonnet?
Cheers
Terry

Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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I'm not sure what they would be as standard. This is a picture of ours sans bonnet, before the shunt.


Terryg4

214 posts

58 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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Thanks Jon, I think the inner wings are trimmed and the radiator is a reduced height
Cheers
Terry

Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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Terry, the rad in ours is from a Pug 205 GTi, although I'm not sure on exact specification in terms of if it's from a 1.6/1.9, or if there is a difference between a GTI and CTI radiator etc.

I'm 90% sure it's a standard 1.9 GTi rad unit.

Terryg4

214 posts

58 months

Sunday 9th February
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Jon
What engine has it got as earlier in the thread a 1300 xflow is mentioned?

Terry

Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Thursday 27th February
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Hi Terry,

Sorry, not been on here lately (well, I've been updating my 'back to the shed' thread in readers cars, but not the Ginetta stuff). I believe it is a 1300 X-Flow engine, built into a 711M block. I've not had the guts out of it to see what's inside, if anything beyond a cam. It's got a front mount pump etc for the dry sump system.

I believe that when GH bought the car in a dismantled state it came with a Lotus Twink engine but that was sold separately, as no doubt it was worth more than the rest of the car combined.

Why do you ask?

Terryg4

214 posts

58 months

Friday 28th February
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Jon
I have a G4S4 and wrote a recent artcle for the GOC Newsmag. Your car featured as it's one of the cars that originally had the prototype type bonnet (Flip up headlights) I then found an advert in an old Magazine and wondered whether it was for your car , but the engine is different and actually turned out to be another G4S4 now in France.
Hope its going well
All the best
Terry

auyt

83 posts

129 months

Sunday 8th November
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Jon , I'm reviving this thread yet again, were there any pictures of the completed blue car.

Regards
Graeme

Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Wednesday 18th November
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Not much to show on this really - family life has got a bit 'busy' in the last year.

Lots of shiny powdercoated bits, some nice new bushes etc.

I've got 3 weeks off work at Christmas though, and with travel plans looking limited it's likely I'll find some time to spend on it then.

Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Saturday 21st November
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A little progress has been made!

Wishbones etc all powdercoated.
Poly bushes fitted.
Various brackets blasted and painted.
Pedals powdercoated, grip tape added for anti-ship.

New rose joints ordered for the rear wishbones.

Propshaft checked, all okay.

Handbrake mechanisms seized solid, so on the hunt for new ones of them too.




Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Saturday 21st November
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It's been discussed before, but does anyone want a bonnet like the one on our car? So a widened version of the standard G4 bonnet.

I've decided not to laminate it up myself to save time, so I'm probably going to get Honeybourne Mouldings to make a bonnet. Whilst it's there it might be worth getting a couple more made.

Terryg4

214 posts

58 months

Monday 23rd November
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Jon
I will put a post on the GOC website
All the best
Terry

Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Monday 23rd November
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Great, thanks very much Terry. Not sure on price yet, I guess it will depend how many I get made.

auyt

83 posts

129 months

Monday 23rd November
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Jon, That’s great let us know when this will happen please,

Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Monday 23rd November
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I'll obviously need to plan it with Honeybourne but I'd be aiming to get the mould to them during my Christmas break.

Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Tuesday 24th November
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Just chipping away at it now as best I can.
Rose joints and misalignment spacers are on the way from Merlin Motorsport.

Also I found a bit of time yesterday afternoon to sort the rear discs out.cleaned the surface rust off, then mic'ed them up. Thickness is all good and no warp on them. So I masked the faces, blasted the bells and edges and gave them a flick over of VHT caliper paint.


Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Tuesday 24th November
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I found some time to strip the front suspension and brakes down today.
Front discs got the same treatment as the rears, surface rust removed with scotchbrite, then the bells and edges blasted and painted with silver caliper paint.
Although they dont hold up to close scrutiny, they are definitely 'b-surface' so the paint is more to stop flash rusting and keep the discs better presentable for longer.



I pulled the front uprights down too, and was a little shocked at what I found. The stub axle one one side had been greased before the taper was pressed in so that was spinning in the upright! Also, the trunnions are meant to be oiled with EP90 GL4, but lots of people grease them instead which is not correct. After removing the clean grease I found the thread was very rusty, there were chunks missing and pitting too. I think these uprights were just a few bumps away from cracking. I've had this happen before on my Herald and it was not fun!

As we say in the Triumph world, Check Your Trunnions!





I've decided to swap these out for a set of trunnionless type which are meant to be fit and forget (and maybe the odd squirt of WD40 if they get wet).

I also degreased the hubs, then tig welded some caps over the old bearing races, which I then pressed back into the hubs. This was so I could blast the old paint and rust off the hubs without risking getting the media in the hub bore which could potentially damage a bearing if not cleaned out properly.

The hubs were then primed and painted satin black too.

Tomorrow I'll be getting a refurbished steering rack, ball joints, the trunnionless uprights etc to start rebuilding the corners ready to bolt onto the chassis.

Terryg4

214 posts

58 months

Wednesday 25th November
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Wow, I have never seen trunnions that bad before.
Terry

Jonny-Jimbo

203 posts

37 months

Thursday 26th November
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I agree Terry, rough as toast. The other side was absolutely fine, which compounds the fact someone knowingly put that rusty piece of crap on the car.

In terms of other progress today, I got the discs back on the hubs...



Found a set of steering arms, so I blasted and painted them too...



And then pressed the stub axles out of the old uprights, gave them a good clean, ran a die down the threads, and pressed them into the new trunnionless ones.

I blasted and painted a few other bits too, then the cold set in and I went home as it was too damn cold!