New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Classic Chim said:
Daggsy said:
Wonder if Lawrence Tomlinson has any spare manufacturing/assembly facility at his Ginetta HQ
I’ve been thinking this for a few years. See the G55 multi pile up at Donnington recently, there flipping strong cars with a proper roll cage 
Very successful manufacturer,,,,,,,,
unrepentant said:
Classic Chim said:
Daggsy said:
Wonder if Lawrence Tomlinson has any spare manufacturing/assembly facility at his Ginetta HQ
I’ve been thinking this for a few years. See the G55 multi pile up at Donnington recently, there flipping strong cars with a proper roll cage Very successful manufacturer,,,,,,,,
PW is a TVR hero but he has left a lot to answer for, and I say this as a TVR owner since 1982.
Anyone remember the Christmas card Nikolai Smolensky sent out to TVRCC members when he took over ?
Daggsy said:
unrepentant said:
Classic Chim said:
Daggsy said:
Wonder if Lawrence Tomlinson has any spare manufacturing/assembly facility at his Ginetta HQ
I’ve been thinking this for a few years. See the G55 multi pile up at Donnington recently, there flipping strong cars with a proper roll cage Very successful manufacturer,,,,,,,,
PW is a TVR hero but he has left a lot to answer for, and I say this as a TVR owner since 1982.
Anyone remember the Christmas card Nikolai Smolensky sent out to TVRCC members when he took over ?
TVRMs said:
Daggsy said:
unrepentant said:
Classic Chim said:
Daggsy said:
Wonder if Lawrence Tomlinson has any spare manufacturing/assembly facility at his Ginetta HQ
I’ve been thinking this for a few years. See the G55 multi pile up at Donnington recently, there flipping strong cars with a proper roll cage Very successful manufacturer,,,,,,,,
PW is a TVR hero but he has left a lot to answer for, and I say this as a TVR owner since 1982.
Anyone remember the Christmas card Nikolai Smolensky sent out to TVRCC members when he took over ?
If you look at production figures and the use of the parts on the PW era cars they changed a few things as per design and other things because they hadn't paid the bill so used another supplier, ( how true this is I have no clue but wouldn't surprise me )
Building cars is a tough business at the best of times
Building cars is a tough business at the best of times
unrepentant said:
The story at the time of Smolensky's purchase was that LT was in the process of doing due diligence to buy TVR from PW when the kid came along with cash and no questions. How different things might have been.
Tomlinson is a formidable man and builds cars with driver safety paramount in a design that costs a few quid to produce, really fast cars too! Good engines, light, ok predominantly for racing so easy to get to market but still,,,,, a continuation of the Tvr theme is inherent it seems to me.
I just wish LE had built something similar to Ginetta with slightly more stylish lines and a noisy exhaust system, bespoke interior etc etc nothing to earth shattering in design but looks right goes right ( Ginetta are serious cars) with a simple space frame design, even I can weld my Tvr chassis up,,, we all want this freedom of cars of the past to stay with us that are space age looking damn fast but fairly easy to repair,,, it’s not all about the most expensive or even the fastest thing on Earth.
I agree if it’s true LE has spent a lot of money sponsoring a race team with no real relevance to getting the Car he’s produced on the road then that’s a total waste of money.
No factory yet the name on a race car,,, forget racing and build a car blokes can afford/ repair and drive real fast on tracks ( where it’s safe ) and I believe this age old chassis design can still provide serious lap times as its light and strong, just look at the Ginetta racing,,,
If only!
And the worst thing of all is we don’t even know if the car feels like it’s an extension of yourself, if the driver likes it,,, as that’s all that matters in a Tvr, do you feel in control of a beast with surprisingly good handling and steering and feels race bread, surely they had enough money to rag it about a bit and find out some basics, driver input ??? Let LT hsve a drive in it,,,,,,,, you’ll find out real quick how good it is,,
Edited by Classic Chim on Tuesday 7th May 14:41
TVRMs said:
Peter sold the business as a going concern. He sold it to someone who neither undertook due dilegance or understood what he had bought. His (NS) spell in control ended after several industry experts were employed and dismissed. Include Peter in that group, sacked after it was declared to NS that he did not own the factory....Were the NS cars better quality than the PRW cars - not in IMO.
I'll always bow to your superior knowledge John as you had more PW/NS era TVR's than anyone else I know. Personally I felt there was a big improvement in quality between my 52 Tuscan and my 05 Tuscan 2 and 55 Sagaris. None of them were perfect but the snagging list on the first Tuscan was way longer than the second.All were brilliant. In fairness the first Tuscan felt the most like it was trying to kill me so perhaps was the more exciting.
TVRMs said:
It was building and selling cars and was paying its bills. Rent? Don’t know??
The point being that PW owned the building, and could decide to pay (or not pay) himself rent. When he sold the company to NS, it came with a rent-paying lease to PW, the payment of which was presumably not optional.That may have made the difference between going concern and not.
skwdenyer said:
The point being that PW owned the building, and could decide to pay (or not pay) himself rent. When he sold the company to NS, it came with a rent-paying lease to PW, the payment of which was presumably not optional.
That may have made the difference between going concern and not.
If the cost of a few old sheds was enough to sink the company it must have been bad. Unless you are buying the buildings it’s obvious you’ll be paying somebody rent I’d have thought. That may have made the difference between going concern and not.
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