New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)

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QBee

20,905 posts

143 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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phazed said:
baconsarney said:
phazed said:
This month we have our village VPA, (Village Producers Association) seed swap in the village hall.

I will be attending to sample the home made cakes and coffee as I have been told that it isn’t the seed swap that I thought it was…
I'm guessing the village people will be there Peter eek
They will indeed, “young man”.
Are they holding it in the YMCA?

GeneralBanter

650 posts

14 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Viper201 said:
tertius said:
Viper201 said:
Been a development at TVR Electric Vehicles today. One of the directors has gone.

Ante Razmilovic was appointed on the 4th May last year at the same time as the Ensorcia M.D. He is a big cheese in the financial world having been the managing director of Goldman Sachs.. He is also a director of the advisory board of IBAT Metals who are the company that have the rights to the lithium extraction process that Ensorcia is planning to use. His extensive financial work history is in the link.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ante-razm...

Now I wonder why his directorship at TVR has been terminated? I'd have thought TVR would need people of his calibre more than ever. Or perhaps he knows where this is all going....
A managing director at Goldman Sachs … it’s a rank below partner, they have hundreds of them.
I was simply quoting from the info in the link. wink

Either way, he joined, as I understand it, to bring some financial expertise to TVR, presumably with the intention of raising funds which everyone else has failed to do successfully. I'd have thought this was a serious blow to Edgar's plans.
At that level people like him are often invited to be directors. There’s little ownership of the position it’s more the dining out on it potential. He might even have put a few thousand in jus for the laugh.

GeneralBanter

650 posts

14 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Viper201 said:
ant550lag said:
Arkansas Chuggabug!
Congratulations!!!

And here is your prize. This is your pilot, Mr Smith (he may not still look like this as it was taken 4 years ago), a TVR director and helicopter pilot who specialises in setting up and fitting out factories. Apparently....

Well Rich Smith hasn’t exactly shown us his stuff has he.

I’ve recently dealt with an ‘experienced commercial project manager’ who in practice was incapable of project managing anything and was such a mess her services were dispensed with. Turns out she had ‘managed’ one in-house office move so thought she had earned herself the title.

Viper201

7,823 posts

142 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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GeneralBanter said:
Well Rich Smith hasn’t exactly shown us his stuff has he.
Think its fair to say you could apply that to all 10 directors - oops just 9 now. smile

Byker28i

58,860 posts

216 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Well, there's some growth on the pepper/chilli plant (no idea which it is currently)

baconsarney

11,990 posts

160 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Byker28i said:
Well, there's some growth on the pepper/chilli plant (no idea which it is currently)
Blimey that’s early scratchchin

Byker28i

58,860 posts

216 months

Monday 13th March 2023
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This is the plant/plants I overwintered in the kitchen, the only two I managed to save from last year. Currently one is full of flowers so I'm expecting more fruit

Jon39

12,782 posts

142 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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There is nothing TVR to talk about anymore, but I hope you will not mind me going off topic (my 2023 propogated fuchsia plants are growing well), but I have a startup sportscar story to tell.

I came across a Professional Engineer magazine published in 2007.
It featured a new startup car manufacturing business. Being an old magazine, we had the advantage of being able to skip forward to 2023.

Very similar to TVR, the new firm had their plan and were full of enthusiasm.
Imagine Les Edgar, but on steroids. They were not just building any old sports car, but it incorporated adrenaline plus.











Like Les, their aim was to go global, so what could possibly go wrong ?
The management were extremely careful and as you can see, they did not believe in taking chances, such as arranging for a giant lifeboat to follow them, 'just to be sure' (although they were not from Ireland, but Nuneaton). Thinking about it, that might have been one of their problems. Not too many seafarers in Nuneaton.

I think they built far more cars than Uncle Les, but referring now to Companies House, it appears to have all ended in tears.
We could have probably told them that back in 2007, but good on them for having a go. Sir Walter would not have discovered tobacco, unless he had a go.

Expect they had fun along the way and hopefully, it was other other peoples' money that they lost. Would hate the inventors to have hocked their homes as loan security.

Do any of you know anything about that car/boat ?


EDIT - I think I have just recognised the driver captain.



Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 16th March 21:18

TarquinMX5

1,919 posts

79 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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Jon39 said:






Like Les, their aim was to go global, so what could possibly go wrong ?
The management were extremely careful and as you can see, they did not believe in taking chances, such as arranging for a giant lifeboat to follow them, 'just to be sure' (although they were not from Ireland, but Nuneaton). Thinking about it, that might have been one of their problems. Not too many seafarers in Nuneaton.

I think they built far more cars than Uncle Les, but referring now to Companies House, it appears to have all ended in tears.
We could have probably told them that back in 2007, but good on them for having a go. Sir Walter would not have discovered tobacco, unless he had a go.

Expect they had fun along the way and hopefully, it was other other peoples' money that they lost. Would hate the inventors to have hocked their homes as loan security.

Do any of you know anything about that car/boat ?


EDIT - I think I have just recognised the driver captain.



Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 16th March 21:18
https://www.breakingtravelnews.com/news/article/btn20040614140808842/

Gareth9702

370 posts

131 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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There are fundamental design conflicts that ensure a car cannot successfully become a boat. This doesn't seem to stop people trying. Much better is to put wheels on a boat!

Oldwolf

928 posts

192 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I remember that, thought it very cool but couldn't believe there would be much demand but now with global warming and floods it might be more popular.

A Mk 1 MX5 floats....very briefly.

Jordie Barretts sock

3,844 posts

18 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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If you're referring to the Aquada, that's closer to a mk 2 MX5 (NB) than a mk 1 (NA).

glow worm

5,800 posts

226 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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The TVR version.... PWs of course smile



TwinKam

2,938 posts

94 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Alvis (an English sport(ing) car manufacturer for those too young to know) made a very successful amphibian, but tweren't no sportscarrofl no siree bob.




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Jon39

12,782 posts

142 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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MORE INFORMATION

An interesting and very promising project, that progressed much further than new TVR, but eventually yet another car manufacturing dream that failed.
Planned production 4,000.
Built 45.
Praised for performance on the road and in water, but unfortunately costly development and production, resulted in a high list price and so demand was very low.


At the time of its release, it was one of the fastest amphibious cars ever built and those who got to test it were amazed by the way it handled on both surfaces. Thanks to near-perfect weight distribution, a stiff suspension that included a huge front anti-roll bar, and a responsive braking system, it drove like a thoroughbred sports car. When transitioning to water, the vehicle remained just as exciting, maneuvering like a well-built speedboat.

In terms of performance, the Aquada was unquestionably the first no-compromise amphibious car with real mass production potential. Unfortunately, it never reached its true market potential, mainly due to its exorbitant price. Because of the high development costs, the initial target of building a vehicle that could revolutionize transportation was never reached, as Gibbs Amphibians was forced to market its innovative creation as a weekend toy for the rich.

Starting around £150,000 (about $295,110), it was as expensive as a Ferrari or a luxury speedboat, but it looked more like a homebuilt Mazda than a supercar or an extravagant vessel. To make matters worse. it didn’t come with modern safety features like ABS or airbags, which prevented it from becoming roadworthy in many countries, including the U.S.

Because of its price and safety concerns, even those with virtually bottomless pockets didn’t rush to buy one, so only 45 of the planned 4,000 units were built. One of them was famously used by billionaire Sir Richard Branson who set a new record for crossing the English Channel in an amphibious vehicle, completing the journey in 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 6 seconds.

While it never became the revolutionary vehicle that it was supposed to be, the Gibbs Aquada proved that a high-performance amphibious car is possible and inspired many other similar concepts that have been introduced in recent years.


Oldwolf

928 posts

192 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
If you're referring to the Aquada, that's closer to a mk 2 MX5 (NB) than a mk 1 (NA).
Hi Jordie, yes I know but it happened to be an MX5 NA I was in when it floated smile
A river had burst it's banks onto a road and I came round a bend into it, the car floated very briefly and then sank. Thankfully it wasn't deep enough to drown the car (air intake is high on MX5s) and none of the 5 warning lights on the dash came on so I made it out the other side.

8Speed

727 posts

65 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Gareth9702 said:


There are fundamental design conflicts that ensure a car cannot successfully become a boat. This doesn't seem to stop people trying. Much better is to put wheels on a boat!
A chum of mine in Cornwall has one of these - it's brilliant!
Wheels fold up hydraulically when the boat floats off the beach.


Edited by 8Speed on Friday 17th March 11:41

Viper201

7,823 posts

142 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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TwinKam said:
Alvis (an English sport(ing) car manufacturer for those too young to know) made a very successful amphibian, but tweren't no sportscarrofl no siree bob.




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And for those who are much older than you TK, Alvis made the Leonides radial piston engine for aircraft. Fitted to the Pembroke, RAF support command plane, and later used as a training aid for RAF mechanics at St Athan - now home of an Aston Martin factory.

Jordie Barretts sock

3,844 posts

18 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Oldwolf said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
If you're referring to the Aquada, that's closer to a mk 2 MX5 (NB) than a mk 1 (NA).
Hi Jordie, yes I know but it happened to be an MX5 NA I was in when it floated smile
A river had burst it's banks onto a road and I came round a bend into it, the car floated very briefly and then sank. Thankfully it wasn't deep enough to drown the car (air intake is high on MX5s) and none of the 5 warning lights on the dash came on so I made it out the other side.
Glad it survived! Bet it didn't help with the corrosion issues though. And don't tell me it didn't have any!

baconsarney

11,990 posts

160 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Viper201 said:
And for those who are much older than you TK, Alvis made the Leonides radial piston engine for aircraft. Fitted to the Pembroke, RAF support command plane, and later used as a training aid for RAF mechanics at St Athan - now home of an Aston Martin factory.
Leonidas… and the 300 smile