New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 3)
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
I think Edgars lot have done harm to the TVR Mark , the TVR dealers, the TVR service agents and TVR mechanise producers . I have no respect for deposit holders , because I suspect a large number were just after making a quick buck . Taking a punt on it being a success with no intention of buying a car but making a tidy profit selling their place in queue
Thanks for the unsolicited insult 
. I rarely post on here, but this wound me right up. I put a deposit down in good faith for what would be my retirement car; a car to see me out. I was bloody proud of having a deposit down and nothing would have made me happier that to have got 'my' Griffith. I'd had TVRs in the past, and this one would never have been sold again in my lifetime. You only have to look at the list of deposit holder to see a great many currently have or have had TVRs. As it is I bailed and bought a TrackHawk after waiting god-knows how long, which in retrospect was a good move. Brutally fast, and takes all my junk and it's now my 'forever' car; it'll see me out. I can live without your respect though
The Three D Mucketeer said:
I think Edgars lot have done harm to the TVR Mark , the TVR dealers, the TVR service agents and TVR mechanise producers . I have no respect for deposit holders , because I suspect a large number were just after making a quick buck . Taking a punt on it being a success with no intention of buying a car but making a tidy profit selling their place in queue (something that's worked very well for Morgan and Ferrari deposit holders in the past).
This is where I take TVRs activities of the last 10 years quite personally. They've taken advantage of and squandered a huge amount of goodwill. Further devalued the brand and fed constant excuses which I (As a former OEM development engineer and TVR specialist workshop owner) can see straight through as bunkum the whole time. They've only made TVRs return one day more challenging.
The Three D Mucketeer said:
I think Edgars lot have done harm to the TVR Mark , the TVR dealers, the TVR service agents and TVR mechanise producers . I have no respect for deposit holders , because I suspect a large number were just after making a quick buck . Taking a punt on it being a success with no intention of buying a car but making a tidy profit selling their place in queue (something that's worked very well for Morgan and Ferrari deposit holders in the past).
Agreed but the market for Tvr was diminishing and a number of dealers who didn’t do a particularly good job in the first place were bound to retire or leave the scene anyway.
Edgar was never very interested in anything to do with old school Tvr and the parts supply which for even the good ones has become harder so source British made parts or just reliable parts in general which then casts doubts on there ability to add the famous Tvr tax.
It’s an inevitable slow demise into the situation we now face.
I considered the companies who made bespoke parts which we always relied on were on a hiding to nothing unless they accepted it would be something of a cottage industry and business costs are now so high as to make it almost impossible to survive without some form of diversification.
He was never the right man for the job.
The new car saga has been a red herring and it’s just a pity someone else didn’t get involved in securing a future for the parts supply for the only Tvr cars that do exist.
At least we have Moto clan and a few good Tvr centres who continue to do a decent job or the whole Tvr name and cars would disappear from view very quickly.
It leaves owners in a precarious position.
BritishTvr450 said:
At least we have Moto clan and a few good Tvr centres who continue to do a decent job or the whole Tvr name and cars would disappear from view very quickly.
It leaves owners in a precarious position.
Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Monday 22 July 18:00
BritishTvr450 said:
When was it ever a going concern.
It’s not been a going concern since before the Russian got involved
That’s close to two decades ago.
Please bring back pictures of pretty gardens as that holds more interest……….
Based on this thread who in their right mind would want to take on TVR and have to deal with some of the supporters of the brand who like nothing more than dissecting someone else’s business dealings.
It’s no wonder Mr Edgar wanted to attract a younger audience and have little to do with the older generation of so called fans.
It’s over as 98% of the people who were once interested have also long since moved on and no longer post on here because they accept reality, these posts are just to keep a few people busy talking about something that failed a long long time ago.
I’ve only posted on here because I’m a fan of the mark and feel this thread has turned into a pointless exercise in moaning about what happens when someone’s dream fails to materialise and others constantly slate them for ever trying.
It’s obviously of great interest to a handful of contributors for no other reason than to occupy your time as what good can come of it.
For true fans of the name its distressing and disappointing a few people still enjoy dragging the name through the mud when it’s blatantly obvious the company had very little chance of survival in today’s market place.
Compared to other companies TVR depts are nothing but loose change and not worth the hundreds of pages written about it.
It’s a free world so enjoy your attempts to keep this thread going for what seems like no other reason than to entertain yourselves as what good can come of it?
If you have an answer to that question I’d like to hear it then maybe I’d understand!
For any logical minded person the years of promises coming from Tvr that all fell away and never materialised some 10 years ago was the writing on the wall and all of those logical business minded folk have long since given up hoping or even considering Tvr had a future.
All this stuff is just the fallout and happens to lots of businesses.
I’d suggest Tvr paid back the deposits and no harm was done to all those Tvr supporters and some respect should be shown for that at least.
Gazzab said:
Not sure why you feel anyone has to adhere only to your posting wants. If you don’t like it don’t read it. It’s embarrassing. Many people are interested to read the exposure of Les and Co re the wastage of millions of tax payers money or the slow final breaths of TVR before this version seemingly dies. Or will there be some funding suddenly found? Will they suddenly produce an EV mock up etc etc. You might think it should be allowed to RIP. Some don’t.
You can do and write whatever you like, as can I, If you find it embarrassing that’s your problem. Don’t read it then!
The last few years of posts bare out my sentiments that people are no longer interested and it only leaves a few people wanting to talk about the failure like it’s still news.
The money lost is hardly big money in the scheme of things.
Do you go onto other forums complaining about the waste for the U.K. to the tune of tens of billions the conservatives have lost?
Who the heck wants a mock up of a TVR EV.
The Three D Mucketeer said:
MOTOCLAN are only distributing TVR parts because they are not paying the licence Racing Green were obliged to pay other have had to change name.
What a disgrace. Racing Green have supported TVR owners for years. Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Monday 22 July 18:00
You couldn’t make it up even with this rubbish management team.
I’m all for someone who cares about old TVR and that should be the focus for supporters going forward.
BritishTvr450 said:
Gazzab said:
Not sure why you feel anyone has to adhere only to your posting wants. If you don’t like it don’t read it. It’s embarrassing. Many people are interested to read the exposure of Les and Co re the wastage of millions of tax payers money or the slow final breaths of TVR before this version seemingly dies. Or will there be some funding suddenly found? Will they suddenly produce an EV mock up etc etc. You might think it should be allowed to RIP. Some don’t.
You can do and write whatever you like, as can I, If you find it embarrassing that’s your problem. Don’t read it then!
The last few years of posts bare out my sentiments that people are no longer interested and it only leaves a few people wanting to talk about the failure like it’s still news.
The money lost is hardly big money in the scheme of things.
Do you go onto other forums complaining about the waste for the U.K. to the tune of tens of billions the conservatives have lost?
Who the heck wants a mock up of a TVR EV.
BritishTvr450 said:
The Three D Mucketeer said:
MOTOCLAN are only distributing TVR parts because they are not paying the licence Racing Green were obliged to pay other have had to change name.
What a disgrace. Racing Green have supported TVR owners for years. Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Monday 22 July 18:00
You couldn’t make it up even with this rubbish management team.
I’m all for someone who cares about old TVR and that should be the focus for supporters going forward.
sixor8 said:
Motoclan have been suppling parts of dubious quality along with the good. Some of their R8 manifold gaskets didn't fit.
A fuel pump I fitted to the TVR last week didn’t work, Spent hours looking into why. Checked immobiliser, relays, pressure at the rail which showed zero, electrical lines and continuity which showed 12.6 volts and over 10.5 when pump primed. Stumped so then tried reversing the wires to the pump and it ran. The + / - terminals on the pump were marked up wrong or more likely the pump put together the wrong way round.
It wasn’t from a Tvr parts dealer but does show its now a minefield to buy anything you can trust.
I feel like counter claiming for my time but the pump came from a British old car parts dealer and was less than 1/3 the price of a TVR supplied part so thought better of it.
A friend had ordered it for me and used the same pump on his car for years so at least it should be reliable.
Until LE announces his New TVR plan has failed, there probably will not be anything new to discuss in relation to the saga.
This article published yesterday by the BBC, may, or may not be of interest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ngwv2q5p5o
My only thoughts would be try building a new building with infrastructure to attract business to the area for that kind of money.
It was becoming an eyesore and probably effecting other buildings on that estate.
If Wales is ever to recover in that area something has to be done. Wether or not any business wants to base itself in an area so far west is another question.
The new roads will make it quite a short hop into central England though.
It was becoming an eyesore and probably effecting other buildings on that estate.
If Wales is ever to recover in that area something has to be done. Wether or not any business wants to base itself in an area so far west is another question.
The new roads will make it quite a short hop into central England though.
Jon39 said:
Until LE announces his New TVR plan has failed, there probably will not be anything new to discuss in relation to the saga.
This article published yesterday by the BBC, may, or may not be of interest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ngwv2q5p5o
FWIW… I admire you guys that are still hanging in here with interest and in some cases enthusiasm for what still might be…..
Back on topic my courgettes and runner beans are going manic… toms have been slow but a good August should remedy that… all fruit is looking good so jams will be awesome…
Beastie needs a chassis refurb but might take Moneypenny to Northern Spain later in the year for some culture and cuisine
Back on topic my courgettes and runner beans are going manic… toms have been slow but a good August should remedy that… all fruit is looking good so jams will be awesome…
Beastie needs a chassis refurb but might take Moneypenny to Northern Spain later in the year for some culture and cuisine
Viper201 said:
I just cannot see LE ever admitting defeat. They say they want to be at Thruxton so they will need a factory but there don't seem to be any announcements about how they intend progressing it. LE last claimed that production would definitely be starting in 2024 but we are still at square one.
I have just realised.
LE has based his new plan on another car manufacturer, who also had new facilities constructed adjacent to a motor racing circuit.
Perhaps a whip round at his golf club, might raise the few billion Pounds required
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