Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
targarama said:
I have used Vred Quatrac and now Quatrac Pros for years all year round on various cars from a MKV GTi to an E39 530 Touring and more recently an RX400H. Great tyre IMO. quiet, don't wear too quickly, great grip, and not too expensive.
Smint said:
Whilst on a relatively normal size when compared with 35 aspect 19", ie 215/55 x 17, the Quatrac Pros fitted this summer to our Forester are proving excellent, unexpected bonus of quiet and soft ride.
Daughter's cars sat on earlier versions of Quatracs in the past, which i am sure helped keep them out of the scenery when still fairly inexperienced, alway had good service from Vreds of all types.
Good to hear!Daughter's cars sat on earlier versions of Quatracs in the past, which i am sure helped keep them out of the scenery when still fairly inexperienced, alway had good service from Vreds of all types.
I've got Quatrac on my Century and have been happy enough with them, although I find them a touch sloppy and noisy. Pro isn't available in my size, but CC2 is now available in my size and I will try those next time. Got Quatrac 5 on our Panda and Comtrac on our campervan, they've been excellent.
21st Century Man said:
I've got Quatrac on my Century and have been happy enough with them, although I find them a touch sloppy and noisy. Pro isn't available in my size, but CC2 is now available in my size and I will try those next time. Got Quatrac 5 on our Panda and Comtrac on our campervan, they've been excellent.
We had Quatrac 5 on my wife’s Fabia. I got them because they were asymmetric rather than directional. However, i have had to replace them because two had a crack running all round the sidewall about 15mm form the tyre rim (always kept at correct pressure). Changed all four back to summer tyres for all year again.Had Quatrac 6 on my sheddy V50 for a couple of weeks now, it's seen a variety of weather and road conditions and this far no complaints. Hard to compare them X or Y but they seem very good in wet, cold conditions. Have Quatrac Pro on the van but it's very hard to draw conclusions between the two as they are different tyre sizes and also the teo vehicles are chalk and cheese as far as driving goes.
Smint said:
An object lesson in how different tyre sizes and types behaved, the lower spec models on narrower normal pattern tyres had no trouble moving around, the sporty models on wide low profiles invariably straight tread patterns would sit and spin, the only way to get them to the truck was by reversing them.
Most likely something I've posted before (and it was years ago now, so I might be slightly out on the cars now).I was visiting a family member in hospital. It was cold and a bit sleety when I went in, when I came out a few hours later we'd had a snow sump of a few inches. Once in a decade type thing for East Anglia and not something anyone was ready for.
The dual carriageway Norwich Southern bypass was moving, but when I hut the roundabout where it drops to single I hit the tail of a queue that was obviously a standstill and would've been stranded. As I was one of the last people into the roundabout before that clogged up to, I used the next exit that leads to the single width country lanes through the hills.
I was in our old Yaris SR 1.8 on Quatracs (3 or 5). Certainly OK in poor conditions but not what i'd have picked if I'd have known.
3 other cars did the same ahead of me. BMW first (you can see where that's going), then a new Passat, then an oldish C class ('03?). And their capability was in reverse order, getting steadily better as we went down the list. So I was stuck at the back.
Every time we hit a hill, the BMW stopped the convoy. Myself, the Passat driver and the C class driver had to get out and push it up the hill. Then we had to dash back to the Passat where the driver hopped in and got pushed by myself and the C class driver. Then the same again but with just myself pushing the C class on it's way.
Problem I had with the Yaris was getting going again uphill. I had to reverse back to the bottom of each slope and take a run to get momentum again. It would've been OK, but it had no method of turning off the EDC and the moment 2 wheels span up a little it would totally cut the engine power and strand me.
Then we carried on for a while till the BMW brought us all to a halt again.
We did this 5 or 6 times.
I figure that the BMW was on wide summer tyres, RWD so didn't stand a chance. The Passat was on a similar setup but FWD so slightly more capable, but still piss poor. The C lass would've been RWD but was at an age where it was just getting 'mid range' more narrow tyres that were getting bite - it did really well.
Patrick Bateman said:
Can anyone advise of all season tyre options I might be missing in 235/35/19?
We're away to look at a Golf GTI tomorrow and the 19" wheels it comes on seem to be this oddball size when it comes to all seasons, not ideal!
Tyre reviews tested those exact dimensions of all season tyres on the Golf GTI :We're away to look at a Golf GTI tomorrow and the 19" wheels it comes on seem to be this oddball size when it comes to all seasons, not ideal!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTxxiYcDvQU
Edited by ST565NP on Sunday 15th December 10:32
Konan said:
I figure that the BMW was on wide summer tyres, RWD so didn't stand a chance. The Passat was on a similar setup but FWD so slightly more capable, but still piss poor. The C lass would've been RWD but was at an age where it was just getting 'mid range' more narrow tyres that were getting bite - it did really well.
Having had 9 BMWs over the years and living in NE Scotland I’ve had quite a bit of experience with them in snow. Early on, before I discovered snow tyres, they were a total liability. Even older models tended to come with fairly wide tyres, and the straight 6 engines had a decent amount of torque so even at tiny throttle inputs they’d just spin the wheels.
Winter tyres transformed them from essentially being sledges with added noise to being a vehicle again, until the ground clearance ran out anyway!
Speed addicted said:
Konan said:
I figure that the BMW was on wide summer tyres, RWD so didn't stand a chance. The Passat was on a similar setup but FWD so slightly more capable, but still piss poor. The C lass would've been RWD but was at an age where it was just getting 'mid range' more narrow tyres that were getting bite - it did really well.
Having had 9 BMWs over the years and living in NE Scotland I’ve had quite a bit of experience with them in snow. Early on, before I discovered snow tyres, they were a total liability. Even older models tended to come with fairly wide tyres, and the straight 6 engines had a decent amount of torque so even at tiny throttle inputs they’d just spin the wheels.
Winter tyres transformed them from essentially being sledges with added noise to being a vehicle again, until the ground clearance ran out anyway!
I’d hope that winters made journeys uneventful again.
I was going home from Telford on the M54 one Friday evening, driving slowly even though I was on winter tyres in a Subaru Legacy because the surface was treacherous - a little frosting over consistent black ice. My colleague had left before me in a Merc C-class on "marginal" summer tyres.
Despite his having left a decent time before me, I still caught up to him and exchanged bewildered expressions because he was sat in his car which was facing me on the hard shoulder.
The following Monday he told me it was the most graceful manoeuvre ever - at a very pedestrian speed the car just rotated beneath him until it parked itself where I had seen him. It then took him an age before the motorway was clear enough for him to attempt to turn it around and continue. He lived in Gateshead. The journey home must have taken him all night.
Despite his having left a decent time before me, I still caught up to him and exchanged bewildered expressions because he was sat in his car which was facing me on the hard shoulder.
The following Monday he told me it was the most graceful manoeuvre ever - at a very pedestrian speed the car just rotated beneath him until it parked itself where I had seen him. It then took him an age before the motorway was clear enough for him to attempt to turn it around and continue. He lived in Gateshead. The journey home must have taken him all night.
Patrick Bateman said:
Ended up getting 4 Quatrac Pro+ for under £600 fitted (15% discount code was handy) through Blackcircles, just need to collect the new car they're getting fitted to now...
Welcome to the club! I think they’ll do you well, pretty competent all rounder for our weather and I’ve yet to be defeated even up in Scotland… though ironically thus far, where I am, it’s just been cold, wet and miserable. Since May..
I have them on my Transporter, which came with Continental ContiVan or something like that. Despite being relatively new, they were awful. My wife seemed perplexed at why I was replacing four existing tyres with 7mm with the Quatracs, however wet weather / greasy grip is significantly improved. Quieter too. Also no longer defeated by some damp grass…
I run an X3 35d with full winter and summer wheels and just changed to the winter ones this week - a little later than usual but the UK has been warm.
I have run flat Pirelli Sottozero 3 on and this is the 3rd set since 2015 so they last about 3 winters each, maybe 4.
Are they great winter tyres ? Decent I guess but used only for UK, not for the Alps.
I have run flat Pirelli Sottozero 3 on and this is the 3rd set since 2015 so they last about 3 winters each, maybe 4.
Are they great winter tyres ? Decent I guess but used only for UK, not for the Alps.
I want to keep running my S1 Elise through the winter but the AD08RS it's currently on aren't exactly confidence inspiring in the cold and wet. I was thinking of putting a set of Quatrac 6 on it (one of the few all season tyres you can get in the oddball S1 sizes). Other options could be cross climate 2 or a set of Uniroyal rainsports. Does anyone have any suggestions for something better for the winter that doesn't ruin the handling too much?
ta264 said:
I want to keep running my S1 Elise through the winter but the AD08RS it's currently on aren't exactly confidence inspiring in the cold and wet. I was thinking of putting a set of Quatrac 6 on it (one of the few all season tyres you can get in the oddball S1 sizes). Other options could be cross climate 2 or a set of Uniroyal rainsports. Does anyone have any suggestions for something better for the winter that doesn't ruin the handling too much?
I've got winters on my Daily but the summer tyres are rainsports and I'm really impressed with them but that's not exactly surprising because back in 1986 my 205 came with uniroyals from the factory as did my Senator in 1992 - I'm a Uniroyal fan because they've always been great tyres for meta264 said:
I want to keep running my S1 Elise through the winter but the AD08RS it's currently on aren't exactly confidence inspiring in the cold and wet. I was thinking of putting a set of Quatrac 6 on it (one of the few all season tyres you can get in the oddball S1 sizes). Other options could be cross climate 2 or a set of Uniroyal rainsports. Does anyone have any suggestions for something better for the winter that doesn't ruin the handling too much?
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