Ball joint separator tool

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bayzoo

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96 posts

39 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Hi,

Can someone please recommend a ball joint separator tool - I attempted to change my control arms today’s but the Draper tool I bought had jaws that weren’t wide enough to get over the dust boot - here’s the tool here:

https://www.drapertools.com/product/13914/Ball-Joi...

I only paid 15 quid for it but still a waste of money - it doesn’t seem that well made.

I tried for ages to get it to fit but couldn’t see any way:


stevieturbo

17,263 posts

247 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Undo the nut etc, if you can apply a lever on the arm somewhere for some downward pressure, all the better.

And hammer in the side of the hub where the joint passes through to help release it. Very rarely does this fail and you will not harm the boot.

Often specific tools seem to be poor at the job they're supposed to do !

CoolHands

18,638 posts

195 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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You might need a fork type and hammer. Are you replacing it? As they always get mullered so I’d plan to replace

https://www.screwfix.com/p/laser-fork-ball-joint-s...

bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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I have one of these....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182499078641?_trkparms=...

(Holy thread link batman). Very good tool.



Sometimes it struggles, so I do it up as hard as I dare, and then welly it with a lump hammer. Or sometimes I welly the hub where the ball joint goes through, either work.

Or sometimes I use one of these.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283796500284?_trkparms=...

Get someone to put as much force as they can one it, and then bash hell out of the lower bit of the hub where the ball joint goes through.

I prefer the hydraulic ball joint separator, as I feel that beating things with a hammer has only som much sophistication, but whatever gets the job done. They will pop off with a huge bang though. Quite satisfying.


With the tool you have, clamp it on as you are able, and then welly the joint with the hammer. One like this....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262745179762?epid=15301...

rofl

Best of luck.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Hit the hub upright ball joint housing sideways/head-on by the ball joint with one big FO hammer, just make sure you hit it in the right direction otherwise it could snap off. If you want to hit it sideways then hit it with 2 big FO hammers from different sides at the same time.

bayzoo

Original Poster:

96 posts

39 months

Saturday 29th May 2021
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Thanks all, good advice - I'd actually forgotten about hitting it with a lump hammer... this guy does it (same car as mine in the video) at 2:34 in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbTW3gY3JHM&li...

Just not sure my aim is as good as that...

I'm actually replacing it so it doesn't matter if it gets a bit messed up

alabbasi

2,512 posts

87 months

Saturday 29th May 2021
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Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Sunday 30th May 2021
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I always use a pickle fork type now if I'm replacing the joint, so much easier than the clamp-type ones which are often too weak and/or need loads of hammering anyway.

intergraleevo

14 posts

6 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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Hi all, always prefer to resurrect an old thread rather than start a million new ones but couldn't quite find right answer on the searches...

Have used mates manual scissor type in the past and got on ok in most cases, but am kicking off a restoration so am thinking will need a few types of splitter/separators along the way, there are some cheap kits on Amazon link but my guess is they are just that, cheap and probably won't last.

Any nice midrange kits or pieces of kit around people can recommend? I tried looking for a magazine product review type thingy but came up blanks.

julianm

1,535 posts

201 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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I'd try to get hold of a used Sykes Pickavant ball joint tool or pickle fork.
Really well made & you won't snap one of those!
Some on Ebay at the moment.
Grease the threads well.

Edited by julianm on Sunday 31st December 18:38

stevieturbo

17,263 posts

247 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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intergraleevo said:
Hi all, always prefer to resurrect an old thread rather than start a million new ones but couldn't quite find right answer on the searches...

Have used mates manual scissor type in the past and got on ok in most cases, but am kicking off a restoration so am thinking will need a few types of splitter/separators along the way, there are some cheap kits on Amazon link but my guess is they are just that, cheap and probably won't last.

Any nice midrange kits or pieces of kit around people can recommend? I tried looking for a magazine product review type thingy but came up blanks.
A lot depends on specific joint, how much access etc etc. In most cases, whacking the side of the joints tapered "home" with a hammer, is as good a release tool as any. I wouldn't usually hammer the threaded part unless it was being replaced. Even then, often hitting the side, works better anyway

markymarkthree

2,267 posts

171 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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Made these ball joint splitters a few years ago for Mk3/4/5 Cortinas.


stevieturbo

17,263 posts

247 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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How are they supposed to release a ball joint ?

markymarkthree

2,267 posts

171 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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stevieturbo said:
How are they supposed to release a ball joint ?
Very easily, with no hitting involved.



E-bmw

9,220 posts

152 months

Monday 1st January
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markymarkthree said:
stevieturbo said:
How are they supposed to release a ball joint ?
Very easily, with no hitting involved.

Very good, well done, alas they will only work with that precise arrangement of opposing ball joints.

stevieturbo

17,263 posts

247 months

Monday 1st January
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E-bmw said:
Very good, well done, alas they will only work with that precise arrangement of opposing ball joints.
Exactly, very limited usage as not often you get two aligned like that these days. And hitting the side of the carrier is often more efficient anyway.
It'd never work on the steering arm balljoint

I've used tools before that apply force on the threaded part, and they generally only work alone if the part has been apart recently. In about 99% of cases though, there still needs to be that impact/shock to release them.

E-bmw

9,220 posts

152 months

Monday 1st January
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I have to admit that in over 40 years of part-time mechanicing I have only ever used one tool for separating ball joints.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-245033-Hardwoo...

TwinKam

2,984 posts

95 months

Monday 1st January
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My venerable Sykes Pickavant ball-joint splitter, purchased in the early 80s, is still my first pick, but doesn't fit everything nowadays.
I see they're still available, £50 or so now.

intergraleevo

14 posts

6 months

Monday 1st January
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Thanks all, tool on order will let you know how I get on

keeling54

187 posts

169 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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I need to get the pitman arm off my T2 steering box, I tried my scissor type splitter but the jaws aren't wide enough, have bought these but not had a chance to try them yet. Will let you know if they are any good or not.

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cht702-3-pi...

For general ball joints, downward pressure and a smack from a pair of lump hammers either side has worked for me previously.