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Oceansized

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1 posts

2 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Hi

My son took his car into the main dealers for a service and mot. Passed the mot, but the garage is saying that the discs are worn passed the manufacturers recommended level and it's going to be £320 to replace/repair . This should be done within the next month!

Chris32345

1,593 posts

30 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Ok?

alfaspecial

890 posts

108 months

Wednesday 9th June
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OP,
If you are looking for advice I'd suggest you re-post in the technical section (or ask Mods to move your post)
It would also help if you said exactly which vehicle model your son has, assuming you are asking for advice.

Pica-Pica

8,520 posts

52 months

Wednesday 9th June
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If they are worn past the manufacturer’s recommended minimum, that would be a FAIL, surely?
Other than that, what is the issue/question?

ImDesigner

1,875 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Get them to fit carbon ceramic replacements. Should last for a couple of hundred thousand miles under normal usage.

J4CKO

34,178 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th June
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If its a cost issue, £320 is, after all a big chunk to find for most folk (PH Powerfully Built and wealthy Company directors aside) maybe look at diy.

The car isnt going to fall off the road on the way back from the dealers, the brakes will still be effective and safe for now, certainly enough to get it back.

Then source disks and pads, watch a YouTube video on changing them.

Depends on what it is of course, but brake parts can be a very easy and cost effective thing to diy, they arent hard if you have a bit of mechanical nouse.

£320 at a dealers is probably £100 of parts and an hour of your time.

Pica-Pica

8,520 posts

52 months

Wednesday 9th June
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J4CKO said:
If its a cost issue, £320 is, after all a big chunk to find for most folk (PH Powerfully Built and wealthy Company directors aside) maybe look at diy.

The car isnt going to fall off the road on the way back from the dealers, the brakes will still be effective and safe for now, certainly enough to get it back.

Then source disks and pads, watch a YouTube video on changing them.

Depends on what it is of course, but brake parts can be a very easy and cost effective thing to diy, they arent hard if you have a bit of mechanical nouse.

£320 at a dealers is probably £100 of parts and an hour of your time.
‘nous’

Chainsaw Rebuild

1,543 posts

70 months

Wednesday 9th June
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What car is it? A pair of discs on euro car parts could be £70 and fitting them isn’t very difficult.

Also I would look at the discs yourself, just to make sure the garage aren’t creating a job.

J4CKO

34,178 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Pica-Pica said:
J4CKO said:
If its a cost issue, £320 is, after all a big chunk to find for most folk (PH Powerfully Built and wealthy Company directors aside) maybe look at diy.

The car isnt going to fall off the road on the way back from the dealers, the brakes will still be effective and safe for now, certainly enough to get it back.

Then source disks and pads, watch a YouTube video on changing them.

Depends on what it is of course, but brake parts can be a very easy and cost effective thing to diy, they arent hard if you have a bit of mechanical nouse.

£320 at a dealers is probably £100 of parts and an hour of your time.
‘nous’
Ars...

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Truckosaurus

8,552 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
...Also I would look at the discs yourself, just to make sure the garage aren’t creating a job.
Indeed. They are obviously not worn enough to be an MoT failure (is it even a formal advisory?).

If the £320 is a bit much, then a local garage can probably do Pagid or Brembo branded parts cheaper than the main dealer's factory ones.

HustleRussell

19,770 posts

128 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Pica-Pica said:
If they are worn past the manufacturer’s recommended minimum, that would be a FAIL, surely?
No.

HustleRussell

19,770 posts

128 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Oceansized said:
Hi

My son took his car into the main dealers for a service and mot. Passed the mot, but the garage is saying that the discs are worn passed the manufacturers recommended level and it's going to be £320 to replace/repair . This should be done within the next month!
To respond directly to your post, £320 for an axle set of discs and pads is expensive. I would expect you to be able to better that price whilst still using genuine Ford parts at a non-manufacturer franchised garage. You could probably further reduce the price to around £200 if pattern parts were used.

InitialDave

8,931 posts

87 months

Wednesday 9th June
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What car?

Are the discs worn?

How much are discs to buy?

£320 fitted is an absolute ripoff on some cars, an incredible bargain on others.

JmatthewB

391 posts

90 months

Wednesday 9th June
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If you are brave enough to DIY and have a decent socket set then there are loads of tutorials on YouTube to help. It will probably save you the excess money that the main dealer took changing your oil and air filter.

Pica-Pica

8,520 posts

52 months

Wednesday 9th June
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J4CKO said:
Pica-Pica said:
J4CKO said:
If its a cost issue, £320 is, after all a big chunk to find for most folk (PH Powerfully Built and wealthy Company directors aside) maybe look at diy.

The car isnt going to fall off the road on the way back from the dealers, the brakes will still be effective and safe for now, certainly enough to get it back.

Then source disks and pads, watch a YouTube video on changing them.

Depends on what it is of course, but brake parts can be a very easy and cost effective thing to diy, they arent hard if you have a bit of mechanical nouse.

£320 at a dealers is probably £100 of parts and an hour of your time.
‘nous’
Ars...

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Bennet

1,596 posts

99 months

Wednesday 9th June
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I'll do it for £310.

TheNewBoy

989 posts

6 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Oceansized said:
Hi

My son took his car into the main dealers for a service and mot. Passed the mot, but the garage is saying that the discs are worn passed the manufacturers recommended level and it's going to be £320 to replace/repair . This should be done within the next month!
The manufacturers recommended level is bound to be a money making exercise. Ask them what the measurements were.
I’d take it to a tyre place etc for their opinion also.
I’ve been driving 40+ years & have never changed discs.
My daughter has a mini & their dealer recommended a disc change @ 18000 miles. I doubt that any driving style could cause that!

Edited by TheNewBoy on Wednesday 9th June 12:35

wiliferus

3,790 posts

166 months

Wednesday 9th June
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“Main dealer”. There’s the problem.
Take it to a decent independent garage and they’ll do it for a lot less.
In fact, I’d wager if you take it to an Indy garage they’ll tell you to there’s nowt wrong and to come back in 10k miles.

rustednut

614 posts

15 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Firstly, an MOT is not the same as a service. Brakes can be well worn but still meet MOT test requirements. The service should be changing essential items and warning you of impending issues, which sounds like they have done.

Secondly, just get a 2nd opinion.

aka_kerrly

11,942 posts

178 months

Thursday 10th June
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wiliferus said:
“Main dealer”. There’s the problem.
Take it to a decent independent garage and they’ll do it for a lot less.
In fact, I’d wager if you take it to an Indy garage they’ll tell you to there’s nowt wrong and to come back in 10k miles.
If the dealer has measured the disc width and told the OPs son that for example the min manufacture width is 22mm and his discs are say under 21mm in which case they need replacing.

The MOT is a absolute bare minimum inspection and due to time constraints many testers will not physically measure a disc and will decide if for example there is a big lip ,hairline cracks, poor surface finish that the disc is a fail.

Given the importance of brakes I'd rather know my discs are in specification and safe rather than pin my hopes on something within a mm of complete failure.

There are plenty of examples of discs that have fractured/cracked due to being too thin and not distributing heat evenly.

Without knowing the age/mileage type of car it's impossible to make estimates of cost or if the wear is reasonable.