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Oceansized

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1 posts

33 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Hi

My son took his car into the main dealers for a service and mot. Passed the mot, but the garage is saying that the discs are worn passed the manufacturers recommended level and it's going to be £320 to replace/repair . This should be done within the next month!

Chris32345

2,082 posts

61 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Ok?

alfaspecial

1,122 posts

139 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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OP,
If you are looking for advice I'd suggest you re-post in the technical section (or ask Mods to move your post)
It would also help if you said exactly which vehicle model your son has, assuming you are asking for advice.

Pica-Pica

13,621 posts

83 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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If they are worn past the manufacturer’s recommended minimum, that would be a FAIL, surely?
Other than that, what is the issue/question?

ImDesigner

1,958 posts

193 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Get them to fit carbon ceramic replacements. Should last for a couple of hundred thousand miles under normal usage.

J4CKO

41,287 posts

199 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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If its a cost issue, £320 is, after all a big chunk to find for most folk (PH Powerfully Built and wealthy Company directors aside) maybe look at diy.

The car isnt going to fall off the road on the way back from the dealers, the brakes will still be effective and safe for now, certainly enough to get it back.

Then source disks and pads, watch a YouTube video on changing them.

Depends on what it is of course, but brake parts can be a very easy and cost effective thing to diy, they arent hard if you have a bit of mechanical nouse.

£320 at a dealers is probably £100 of parts and an hour of your time.

Pica-Pica

13,621 posts

83 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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J4CKO said:
If its a cost issue, £320 is, after all a big chunk to find for most folk (PH Powerfully Built and wealthy Company directors aside) maybe look at diy.

The car isnt going to fall off the road on the way back from the dealers, the brakes will still be effective and safe for now, certainly enough to get it back.

Then source disks and pads, watch a YouTube video on changing them.

Depends on what it is of course, but brake parts can be a very easy and cost effective thing to diy, they arent hard if you have a bit of mechanical nouse.

£320 at a dealers is probably £100 of parts and an hour of your time.
‘nous’

Chainsaw Rebuild

1,997 posts

101 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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What car is it? A pair of discs on euro car parts could be £70 and fitting them isn’t very difficult.

Also I would look at the discs yourself, just to make sure the garage aren’t creating a job.

J4CKO

41,287 posts

199 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Pica-Pica said:
J4CKO said:
If its a cost issue, £320 is, after all a big chunk to find for most folk (PH Powerfully Built and wealthy Company directors aside) maybe look at diy.

The car isnt going to fall off the road on the way back from the dealers, the brakes will still be effective and safe for now, certainly enough to get it back.

Then source disks and pads, watch a YouTube video on changing them.

Depends on what it is of course, but brake parts can be a very easy and cost effective thing to diy, they arent hard if you have a bit of mechanical nouse.

£320 at a dealers is probably £100 of parts and an hour of your time.
‘nous’
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Truckosaurus

11,183 posts

283 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
...Also I would look at the discs yourself, just to make sure the garage aren’t creating a job.
Indeed. They are obviously not worn enough to be an MoT failure (is it even a formal advisory?).

If the £320 is a bit much, then a local garage can probably do Pagid or Brembo branded parts cheaper than the main dealer's factory ones.

HustleRussell

24,602 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Pica-Pica said:
If they are worn past the manufacturer’s recommended minimum, that would be a FAIL, surely?
No.

HustleRussell

24,602 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Oceansized said:
Hi

My son took his car into the main dealers for a service and mot. Passed the mot, but the garage is saying that the discs are worn passed the manufacturers recommended level and it's going to be £320 to replace/repair . This should be done within the next month!
To respond directly to your post, £320 for an axle set of discs and pads is expensive. I would expect you to be able to better that price whilst still using genuine Ford parts at a non-manufacturer franchised garage. You could probably further reduce the price to around £200 if pattern parts were used.

InitialDave

11,856 posts

118 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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What car?

Are the discs worn?

How much are discs to buy?

£320 fitted is an absolute ripoff on some cars, an incredible bargain on others.

JmatthewB

912 posts

121 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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If you are brave enough to DIY and have a decent socket set then there are loads of tutorials on YouTube to help. It will probably save you the excess money that the main dealer took changing your oil and air filter.

Pica-Pica

13,621 posts

83 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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J4CKO said:
Pica-Pica said:
J4CKO said:
If its a cost issue, £320 is, after all a big chunk to find for most folk (PH Powerfully Built and wealthy Company directors aside) maybe look at diy.

The car isnt going to fall off the road on the way back from the dealers, the brakes will still be effective and safe for now, certainly enough to get it back.

Then source disks and pads, watch a YouTube video on changing them.

Depends on what it is of course, but brake parts can be a very easy and cost effective thing to diy, they arent hard if you have a bit of mechanical nouse.

£320 at a dealers is probably £100 of parts and an hour of your time.
‘nous’
Ars...

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Bennet

2,119 posts

130 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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I'll do it for £310.

wiliferus

4,053 posts

197 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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“Main dealer”. There’s the problem.
Take it to a decent independent garage and they’ll do it for a lot less.
In fact, I’d wager if you take it to an Indy garage they’ll tell you to there’s nowt wrong and to come back in 10k miles.

rustednut

807 posts

46 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Firstly, an MOT is not the same as a service. Brakes can be well worn but still meet MOT test requirements. The service should be changing essential items and warning you of impending issues, which sounds like they have done.

Secondly, just get a 2nd opinion.

aka_kerrly

12,416 posts

209 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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wiliferus said:
“Main dealer”. There’s the problem.
Take it to a decent independent garage and they’ll do it for a lot less.
In fact, I’d wager if you take it to an Indy garage they’ll tell you to there’s nowt wrong and to come back in 10k miles.
If the dealer has measured the disc width and told the OPs son that for example the min manufacture width is 22mm and his discs are say under 21mm in which case they need replacing.

The MOT is a absolute bare minimum inspection and due to time constraints many testers will not physically measure a disc and will decide if for example there is a big lip ,hairline cracks, poor surface finish that the disc is a fail.

Given the importance of brakes I'd rather know my discs are in specification and safe rather than pin my hopes on something within a mm of complete failure.

There are plenty of examples of discs that have fractured/cracked due to being too thin and not distributing heat evenly.

Without knowing the age/mileage type of car it's impossible to make estimates of cost or if the wear is reasonable.



wiliferus

4,053 posts

197 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Yup, I totally agree with you. But we also know that there are many main dealers that have a reputation for having your pants down for unnecessary work. Threads are a regular feature here for main dealers suggesting tyres with plenty of tread need replacing and such like.

I wasn’t suggesting the OP disregards the advice and carries on regardless. I was suggesting he takes it to another garage for a second opinion.