Tyres for a Mini Cooper

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Louis Balfour

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27,947 posts

231 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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BenS94 said:
Your current Sumitomos vs Kumho. I'd definitely go Kumho here, with the 10% off, and I've not experienced any issues with them in 16" guise driving dads MG3 rather enthusiastically.




Edited by BenS94 on Saturday 30th November 19:17
Thanks for that Ben.

Do we think the Kumho are close enough to the sumitomos to change just the fronts?

nordboy

2,040 posts

59 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
Thanks for that Ben.

Do we think the Kumho are close enough to the sumitomos to change just the fronts?
They'll be fine. I'd have the Kumho's over the bc100's as well if that was the choice.

SlimJim16v

6,218 posts

152 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
Thanks for that Ben.

Do we think the Kumho are close enough to the sumitomos to change just the fronts?
New tyres should* go on the back.





*can of worms

wyson

2,876 posts

113 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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That will make for an interesting handling balance. Ditch finders on the front, decent mid rangers on the back.

OP can’t you drop a level or two with the watches, like slum it with an AP Royal Oak or GP Laureato etc and let your employees enjoy decent tyres? If it were my car, I’d go for the below:



Decent saving off Continental etc. Very well reviewed, places well in a lot of tests and a newer gen tyre than Kumho PS71’s, which are themselves not a bad choice.


wyson

2,876 posts

113 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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Or even the money you could have saved replacing one lost Airpod Pro, instead of getting a new pair, that could have gone on decent tyres no? tongue out

I read that and thought, this guy has money, he doesn’t care about £100 quid here, a £100 there, but you want to get budget tyres with a wet braking distance 7.2m worse than the best tyre on test, to save a measly few bob! tongue out


Edited by wyson on Saturday 30th November 20:20

Louis Balfour

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27,947 posts

231 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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wyson said:
Or even the money you could have saved replacing one lost Airbud,instead of getting a new pair, that could have gone on
decent tyres no?
I've never had a stalker before. It's quite exciting.

wyson

2,876 posts

113 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
wyson said:
Or even the money you could have saved replacing one lost Airbud,instead of getting a new pair, that could have gone on
decent tyres no?
I've never had a stalker before. It's quite exciting.
Sorry, I work for an employer who nickle and dimes their employees in the name of shareholder returns. Found this thread a bit triggering. Need to look away now. tongue out

Edited by wyson on Saturday 30th November 20:44

and31

3,725 posts

136 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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SlimJim16v said:
New tyres should* go on the back.





*can of worms
On a front wheel drive car?
I’d rather have the new ones on the front

E-bmw

10,163 posts

161 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
wyson said:
Replace the lot for a decent set.

Im shocked, weren’t you considering buying a Patek Philippe at one stage, but run around with budget tyres?

Look up your tyre size on tyrereviews.com and get a full set that is well rated.

Edited by wyson on Saturday 30th November 13:10
The car came with them, they were brand new. I have found them to be OK and tyrereviews seems to give them a decent rap.
Not quite sure where you are looking but I don't think 7th out of 8 or 37th out of 55 are "a good rap".


nordboy

2,040 posts

59 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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and31 said:
SlimJim16v said:
New tyres should* go on the back.





*can of worms
On a front wheel drive car?
I’d rather have the new ones on the front
Makes no difference where the 'drive' of the vehicle is, many tests to show that new tyres should go on the rear of the vehicle. Do a google and there's many explanations why.

BenS94

2,743 posts

33 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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nordboy said:
and31 said:
SlimJim16v said:
New tyres should* go on the back.





*can of worms
On a front wheel drive car?
I’d rather have the new ones on the front
Makes no difference where the 'drive' of the vehicle is, many tests to show that new tyres should go on the rear of the vehicle. Do a google and there's many explanations why.
For me, my logic would be in relation to preventing a lift off oversteer scenario.

Louis Balfour

Original Poster:

27,947 posts

231 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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BenS94 said:
nordboy said:
and31 said:
SlimJim16v said:
New tyres should* go on the back.





*can of worms
On a front wheel drive car?
I’d rather have the new ones on the front
Makes no difference where the 'drive' of the vehicle is, many tests to show that new tyres should go on the rear of the vehicle. Do a google and there's many explanations why.
For me, my logic would be in relation to preventing a lift off oversteer scenario.
I've ordered 4 x of the Kumhos you suggested. I will retain the part-worn rears in case we need a couple of tyres when we move on the car.

I was going to regale the assembled crowd with a pork pie about having found some part-worn BC100s on Ebay, but I don't have time this weekend for such japes.

Many thanks Ben and to the others who contributed.



BenS94

2,743 posts

33 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
BenS94 said:
nordboy said:
and31 said:
SlimJim16v said:
New tyres should* go on the back.





*can of worms
On a front wheel drive car?
I’d rather have the new ones on the front
Makes no difference where the 'drive' of the vehicle is, many tests to show that new tyres should go on the rear of the vehicle. Do a google and there's many explanations why.
For me, my logic would be in relation to preventing a lift off oversteer scenario.
I've ordered 4 x of the Kumhos you suggested. I will retain the part-worn rears in case we need a couple of tyres when we move on the car.

I was going to regale the assembled crowd with a pork pie about having found some part-worn BC100s on Ebay, but I don't have time this weekend for such japes.

Many thanks Ben and to the others who contributed.
Glad to be of assistance - for the sake of a Starbucks Coffee a tyre, I'd always choose the next step up. Hopefully a difference is noted. No matter how many or few miles a year a car does, enthusiastically driven or not, just remember, it's a contact patch similar to the palm of your hand thats keeping you on the road - good tyres and brakes are a must for me! After all, it's always another driver on the road you need to avoid, it's never yourself that causes the accident! winkbeer

Pica-Pica

14,637 posts

93 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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BenS94 said:
nordboy said:
and31 said:
SlimJim16v said:
New tyres should* go on the back.





*can of worms
On a front wheel drive car?
I’d rather have the new ones on the front
Makes no difference where the 'drive' of the vehicle is, many tests to show that new tyres should go on the rear of the vehicle. Do a google and there's many explanations why.
For me, my logic would be in relation to preventing a lift off oversteer scenario.
Agreed. Always, but always; whatever the drive, front, rear, or all-wheel, the best tyres on the rear. Easier to control an understeer than an oversteer, and if you can’t control it, the situation is less perilous.

and31

3,725 posts

136 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Pica-Pica said:
BenS94 said:
nordboy said:
and31 said:
SlimJim16v said:
New tyres should* go on the back.





*can of worms
On a front wheel drive car?
I’d rather have the new ones on the front
Makes no difference where the 'drive' of the vehicle is, many tests to show that new tyres should go on the rear of the vehicle. Do a google and there's many explanations why.
For me, my logic would be in relation to preventing a lift off oversteer scenario.
Agreed. Always, but always; whatever the drive, front, rear, or all-wheel, the best tyres on the rear. Easier to control an understeer than an oversteer, and if you can’t control it, the situation is less perilous.
I can see that logic , although I’ve never had an issue with lift off oversteer in the mini

BenS94

2,743 posts

33 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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and31 said:
Pica-Pica said:
BenS94 said:
nordboy said:
and31 said:
SlimJim16v said:
New tyres should* go on the back.





*can of worms
On a front wheel drive car?
I’d rather have the new ones on the front
Makes no difference where the 'drive' of the vehicle is, many tests to show that new tyres should go on the rear of the vehicle. Do a google and there's many explanations why.
For me, my logic would be in relation to preventing a lift off oversteer scenario.
Agreed. Always, but always; whatever the drive, front, rear, or all-wheel, the best tyres on the rear. Easier to control an understeer than an oversteer, and if you can’t control it, the situation is less perilous.
I can see that logic , although I’ve never had an issue with lift off oversteer in the mini
Any car, really. My early 306 is very light weight, and very analogue - thats definitely one that's easy to slide in said scenario.

Smint

2,059 posts

44 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Only ever driven on Sumitomo once and wouldn't be in hurry to repeat the experience, a pair on the back of daughter's BMW Compact 320d, would sling the back end out without any provocation in the slightest damp, removed immediately and a pair of Vred Sportracs put on, problem cured.