Anyone given up on snow foam

Anyone given up on snow foam

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jakesmith

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8,566 posts

131 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Anyone think foam it isn't all that & stopped using it?
I'm using bilt hamber which is meant to be a good one but stand there wondering if it actualy does anything / enough to justify the time
I have 3 cars and washing them is not a pleasure for me so I can't be bothered with uneccesary steps or ones that offer only very marginal benefits
Is there any movement in the industry against this or is it generally considered to be worthwhile?

markiii

1,484 posts

154 months

Wednesday 9th September
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depends how you use it, for a quick wash i rinse, foam, then run round with the mitt before the foam runs off, the rinse again

Chris32345

1,110 posts

22 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Depends on what you think it's gonna do
Just spray it on and rinse it off and expect it to be clean?

Paul_M3

1,716 posts

145 months

Wednesday 9th September
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I’ve changed approach slightly.

I still use the Bilt Hamber, but now used from a pump sprayer instead of the snow foam lance.

Tests have shown the cleaning power to be basically the same, but there are advantages:

1) it’s much easier to get the correct 4% concentration so should be more effective for many.
2) you can leave it mixed up in a big pump sprayer and just grab it to use quickly before the main wash. A full pump sprayer will do several washes.
3) much neater in terms of mess.

jakesmith

Original Poster:

8,566 posts

131 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Chris32345 said:
Depends on what you think it's gonna do
Just spray it on and rinse it off and expect it to be clean?
Er no, I have used it exactly as it is intended for a couple of years but am still wondering if it does fk all, problem is it is so entrenched I'm not sure people would admit that now but I can't be the only one wondering

_Hoppers

501 posts

25 months

Wednesday 9th September
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It works well for me, before and after shots below after treatment with Bilt Hambers snow foam.


jakesmith

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8,566 posts

131 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Impressive... is your car waxed / protected?

MDMA .

5,854 posts

61 months

Wednesday 9th September
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jakesmith said:
Impressive... is your car waxed / protected?
It's the only way to get the best from snowfoam.

_Hoppers

501 posts

25 months

Wednesday 9th September
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jakesmith said:
Impressive... is your car waxed / protected?
Yep, Bilt Hamber Double Speed wax then topped up with detail spray now and again. It does help the cleaning process loads tbh. Wheels aren’t treated with anything though. Last winter I didn’t bother with contact wash for weeks as a quick snow foam was good enough.

Edited by _Hoppers on Wednesday 9th September 21:33

MDMA .

5,854 posts

61 months

Wednesday 9th September
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I always use hot water too. If the car is waxed/sealed etc, quick once over with the foam, sit for 5 minutes, wash Mitt top to bottom, rinse and done.








jakesmith

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8,566 posts

131 months

Wednesday 9th September
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MDMA . said:
jakesmith said:
Impressive... is your car waxed / protected?
It's the only way to get the best from snowfoam.
Ah ok that makes sense It’s slotting into place

Can the car be effectively waxed without using a machine that may damage the paint when I balls it up

How long does it take?

How long does it last before needing redoing

How much does a basic but effective wax cost

I use autoglym type stuff normally

MDMA .

5,854 posts

61 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Wash the car as normal, then clay it all over. Next with the polish, then your wax, then seal it. It's all in the prep. Get that done and it should last 6-12 months easy. Your weekly clean will be so much easier next time.

jakesmith

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8,566 posts

131 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Polish
Wax
Seal

What polish? Super Resin OK?
Got a wax recommendation?
Thought wax was to seal it, what’s the sealant then?

England87

193 posts

57 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Depends how you use it, I no longer leave it then wash. My routine is jet wash car down, then spray foam, leave 2 mins and wash mitt the foam, then free flow water rinse it off. Comes up great but the car is also ceramic coated with carbon collective.

gweaver

701 posts

118 months

Wednesday 9th September
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jakesmith said:
Got a wax recommendation?
Thought wax was to seal it, what’s the sealant then?
Give it a quick once over with Turtle Wax Hybrid Sealant Hydrophobic Wax. You can get it for £8-10, it's quick and easy to use, and you'll soon find out if having a sealant makes your snow foam more effective.

I have AutoGlanz Spritzer pre-wash/snow-foam, which is also well regarded, and have yet to see much effect beyond what I'd see just using the pressure washer. Maybe my car doesn't get grimy enough for the cleaning poweeer to be apparent.

jakesmith

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8,566 posts

131 months

Wednesday 9th September
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England87 said:
Depends how you use it, I no longer leave it then wash. My routine is jet wash car down, then spray foam, leave 2 mins and wash mitt the foam, then free flow water rinse it off. Comes up great but the car is also ceramic coated with carbon collective.
Thought the poi t of foam was to loosen dirt to then pressure wash off, to avoid swirls. If you’re effectively using the foam as shampoo how does that prevent marking the paint?

England87

193 posts

57 months

Wednesday 9th September
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jakesmith said:
England87 said:
Depends how you use it, I no longer leave it then wash. My routine is jet wash car down, then spray foam, leave 2 mins and wash mitt the foam, then free flow water rinse it off. Comes up great but the car is also ceramic coated with carbon collective.
Thought the poi t of foam was to loosen dirt to then pressure wash off, to avoid swirls. If you’re effectively using the foam as shampoo how does that prevent marking the paint?
Jet wash the car first to remove any grit etc, use a wash mitt and bucket with grit guard, it’s fine.

MDMA .

5,854 posts

61 months

Wednesday 9th September
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jakesmith said:
Polish
Wax
Seal

What polish? Super Resin OK?
Got a wax recommendation?
Thought wax was to seal it, what’s the sealant then?
Whatever one you like using/comfortable with. SR is a good polish. I have about 10 different brands at home! I personally like Poorboys, Chemical Guys and Collinite. All are very easy to apply/take off. Just get the prep right, do in the right order, take your time.

ReverendCounter

4,144 posts

136 months

Wednesday 9th September
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_Hoppers said:
It works well for me, before and after shots below after treatment with Bilt Hambers snow foam.

Are you seriously trying to pass the difference in these images off as being down to snow foam? rofl

For anyone else being misled by this, the deeper shade of paint, the detail in the gravel, the shadows, even the light clusters have all been affected by, and its purely down to whatever filters, software etc _Hoppers is using to enhance/saturate/increase contrast/vibrance etc etc etc etc!

By the way _Hoppers, did you use it on the conifers as well, they've come up lovely.


Red 4

9,433 posts

147 months

Wednesday 9th September
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MDMA . said:
Wash the car as normal, then clay it all over. Next with the polish, then your wax, then seal it. It's all in the prep. Get that done and it should last 6-12 months easy. Your weekly clean will be so much easier next time.
You're doing it wrong.

Wax is always the final stage. Sealant seals in the shine. Most sealants don't stick to wax.

As you say, it's all in the prep (if you do it right).