Paint Protection Spray

Paint Protection Spray

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tighnamara

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1,647 posts

126 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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Looking at protecting a new car and have no idea on the best paint protection method that should be used.

Local detailer to myself uses a spray on coating from Ngenco, has anyone used this product.

Is the spray method seem as inferior to the cutting and fitting of PPF ?

Any comments or advice would be appreciated.

https://ngenco.com/


SuperMario888

36 posts

13 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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I've had various bits done in the past and have been researching this as best I can from home and on a phone for a while - so admittedly I do not have first hand knowledge regarding the long term impact of the different options. It must be said that there is a lot of false information and opinion regarding PPF/PPS and a detailer will always recommend their product. Assuming you want paint protection and are already aware of its immediate limitations, there are a good few videos on YouTube that show how discoloured these films get when left out in the sun for even a few months. There are good and bad versions but they will all go yellow at some point regardless of manufacturer/installer claims. I'm sure there are individual examples of this not happening especially in garaged cars but it is a lot of money. The wrap/ppf brigade present these amazing looking cars at day one on various platforms but hardly ever show where the edges or relief cuts are on display or what they look like around the edges after a few months. Again the impact of this will depend on the base colour of the donor car.

A good example of this is when you look at the number of stealth PPF tesla's there are on show online. If you were to look closely at these cars you would see some gloss bits as you can't wrap thick stealth PPF around edges like you might do with a thinner vinyl. PPS has a massive advantage over PPF in that you cannot see any of these issues. Whilst it is claimed that it does not yellow with age it is difficult to know as I don't believe the claims of anyone selling these kind of products.

From my current understanding most (not all) PPS products in the UK are distributed by Ngenco. The protect product is clear gloss or matt. Topaz skin (which costs a fortune) is basically a very similar product with colour added. The MoreThanCars YouTube channel has examples of PPS (ferrari pista) and PPF (Lamborghini). I'm sure someone will pick holes in the PPF install but ultimately you wouldn't want it on a car like that it looks dirty and has some lifting. The PPS still has some chips on the front end and in other places so whilst the paint underneath is protected it's definitely not self healing as in your PPS looks chipped as opposed to your intrinsic paint.

Ultimately you are paying a large sum of money for something that is probably not going to live up to its warranty at which point it is unlikely be financially viable/too time consuming to make a claim. If you want to put something on that has a lower chance of looking bad go for a clear PPS keeping the gloss or matt finish of your existing paintwork.

tighnamara

Original Poster:

1,647 posts

126 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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SuperMario888 said:
I've had various bits done in the past and have been researching this as best I can from home and on a phone for a while - so admittedly I do not have first hand knowledge regarding the long term impact of the different options. It must be said that there is a lot of false information and opinion regarding PPF/PPS and a detailer will always recommend their product. Assuming you want paint protection and are already aware of its immediate limitations, there are a good few videos on YouTube that show how discoloured these films get when left out in the sun for even a few months. There are good and bad versions but they will all go yellow at some point regardless of manufacturer/installer claims. I'm sure there are individual examples of this not happening especially in garaged cars but it is a lot of money. The wrap/ppf brigade present these amazing looking cars at day one on various platforms but hardly ever show where the edges or relief cuts are on display or what they look like around the edges after a few months. Again the impact of this will depend on the base colour of the donor car.

A good example of this is when you look at the number of stealth PPF tesla's there are on show online. If you were to look closely at these cars you would see some gloss bits as you can't wrap thick stealth PPF around edges like you might do with a thinner vinyl. PPS has a massive advantage over PPF in that you cannot see any of these issues. Whilst it is claimed that it does not yellow with age it is difficult to know as I don't believe the claims of anyone selling these kind of products.

From my current understanding most (not all) PPS products in the UK are distributed by Ngenco. The protect product is clear gloss or matt. Topaz skin (which costs a fortune) is basically a very similar product with colour added. The MoreThanCars YouTube channel has examples of PPS (ferrari pista) and PPF (Lamborghini). I'm sure someone will pick holes in the PPF install but ultimately you wouldn't want it on a car like that it looks dirty and has some lifting. The PPS still has some chips on the front end and in other places so whilst the paint underneath is protected it's definitely not self healing as in your PPS looks chipped as opposed to your intrinsic paint.

Ultimately you are paying a large sum of money for something that is probably not going to live up to its warranty at which point it is unlikely be financially viable/too time consuming to make a claim. If you want to put something on that has a lower chance of looking bad go for a clear PPS keeping the gloss or matt finish of your existing paintwork.
Thanks for the detailed response,

rodericb

4,062 posts

99 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Paint Protection Film can go bad if left out in the elements (heat I think mostly). If you don't mind washing your car the Mothers CNX hybrid ceramic spray looks good. I think you have to do it annually for a car which is left outside but it looks like it's pretty easy to apply. Otherwise the full ceramic coating thing by a detailer is probably the no-effort-but-costly option.

Varsity

90 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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A little too late for me, but do not put this on your car.

The product formula has changed 3 times in the last 6 months, still isn't stable, ruined a colour change on my car.

Pennings, the distribution company have now dropped it, I will let them explain why!

Whilst PPF isn't always perfect, its so much better than this poorly mixed and distributed product.