"Classic Car Rescue" Channel 5 on Mon 24th Sep 20:00
Discussion
lowdrag said:
This programme is a heap of merde, we all agree on that, but talk of a "class action" is crass stupidity.
This series is to restoration what Ground Force and Ready, Steady, Cook were to landscape gardening and cooking i.e. not to be taken as a serious representation of the practices of their respective trades. Sadly far too many people have done just that and not chosen the sensible option of simply not watching.
Hmm, quite a response to my suggestion ... very encouraging for a newbie, thanks!
I agree that there are lots of dubious programmes made in the name of "light entertainment" that tread the same path (Top Gear for one) but there is one very significant difference with this one ... money! They make clear claims about what they bought the car for, what the work cost, what the valuation is, and therefore the profit margin. I am suggesting that because of this particular factor they are going beyond just entertainment and making financial claims ... claims which I believe are totally bogus.
I agree that there are lots of dubious programmes made in the name of "light entertainment" that tread the same path (Top Gear for one) but there is one very significant difference with this one ... money! They make clear claims about what they bought the car for, what the work cost, what the valuation is, and therefore the profit margin. I am suggesting that because of this particular factor they are going beyond just entertainment and making financial claims ... claims which I believe are totally bogus.
hedgefinder said:
to put it simply, this is a CAR forum.. not a house renovation etc forum, so you are likely to get complaints about an alledged CAR orientated programme.
Dumbing down programming to this level is unforgivable and if no one complains more will be made.
And it's just an entertainment show based on cars!Dumbing down programming to this level is unforgivable and if no one complains more will be made.
People complained about "Chop Shop", people complain about "Wheeler Dealers", people still complain about "Top Gear", and what happens? - "Top Gear" is still made, "chop shop" has led to "Classic Car Rescue" and "Wheeler Dealers" is still being made!
All your whinging, whining and letters of complaint is going to do is one of two things:
1) Either have not affect whatsoever and the programs will still be made.
or
2) Convince the TV companies that car shows are simply not worth making because all car fans ever do is complain about them.
This is the reason "Fifth Gear" was removed from the screens for a while, because producers just couldn't see the point of making it any more (not helped by the fact that it became a second rate "Top Gear" for a while).
"Fifth Gear" made a comeback because the producers realised that there was a market (albeit a relatively small one), for a car show that was more serious about car reviewing than "Top Gear" is. However, if you were to compare the viewing figures for "Fifth Gear" and compare them to the much complained about "Top Gear", you'll find that the BBC show walks all over the Channel 5 effort. How can this be though?, after-all, "Fifth Gear" is far more factual and serious than "Top Gear"! - It's because serious car shows are simply not entertaining enough!, whereas "Top Gear" is more about entertainment, than being serious about car reviews.
The old "Top Gear" finished because it became about as entertaining as reading a car brochure. Fine for the "anoraks", but it wasn't going to pull in the viewers any more, and at the end of the day that's what TV programmes are about: Viewing figures!
You make a serious programme about car restoration, showing each and every step in detail, over a period covering the actual number of months it takes to restore the car and how big do you think the viewing figures will be? After the initial programme, interest will dwindle fast because the market for a car restoration series is too small, car restoration is not that entertaining (
"Did he really say that?" - yes I did!, you go spend a whole day watching a man wet sand paintwork on a car, or grinding out rust for a whole day and see how entertaining it is! - not very if you're a spectator!), and general viewers quickly become bored! Don't believe Me? - then you explain why there hasn't been such a programme on mainstream TV since the Mark Evans "A ......... Is Born" series was made!It's a "straight to DVD" concept at the end of the day!
And do you really think Ofcom are going to terminate the series because the Classic car fraternity don't like it? - not a chance!
You want to get rid of "Classic Car rescue"?, simple!: STOP WATCHING IT!
If the programme gets no viewers, they don't bother making it any more! - It's hardly rocket science!
If the TV company receive Millions of complaints about the programme, that means there's Millions of viewers, who despite whinging every week, still keep tuning in! The TV companies only care if the viewers are happy if they think they'll get the money to get a second series out of it, but I suspect in the case of "Classic Car Rescue" they were already envisaging a one series programme.
At the end of the day, nobody is forcing you to watch it! - You don't like it?.......then don't watch it!
(I use this method with "EastEnders", and do you know what, the programme no longer bothers Me!
)I think the most alarming thing about this programme is that the 'winners' will be driving these deathtraps. I'm sorry but you can't ignore this - bodging a car from scrap yard parts and several rotten cars which have been rushed together in two weeks can't be safe - I don't even want to think about the corners that have been cut. This programme should be taken off the air. It's a joke which could inspire other cowboys out there, being potentially very dangerous.
4rephill said:
telling us off stuff
.It's a car forum and we are entitled to 'whine' as you put it.
May I suggest you follow your own advice about tv programmes if you don't want read such posts.
DON'T READ THEM !
Can we get on with the complaints now ?
Don't let the door smack you in the arse on the way out.
4rephill said:
And do you really think Ofcom are going to terminate the series because the Classic car fraternity don't like it? - not a chance!
Where did anyone say they were writing to ofcom just because they didn't like the program ?The program statement is quite clear - to buy and restore cars and make a profit.
Putting aside the fact that the program is crap, the point that is being made by many on here (that you don't seem to be able to grasp) is that they are falsifying the costs of purchase and restoration.
Johnny Cayman said:
mph said:
the point that is being made by many on here (that you don't seem to be able to grasp) is that they are falsifying the costs of purchase and restoration.
Delighted to see that someone has picked up the point of this rant!Liquid Knight said:
Johnny Cayman said:
mph said:
the point that is being made by many on here (that you don't seem to be able to grasp) is that they are falsifying the costs of purchase and restoration.
Delighted to see that someone has picked up the point of this rant!
sApparently over a million viewers on Monday and someone mentioned 70,000 calls to win the E-type alone so looks like C5 are onto a winner, (as far as the advertisers are concerned anyway), also talk of a recommission...
So only 3 more episodes to practice our shouting at the telly then venting on here skills ready for series 2...
Edit:to readers of the tv thread excuse my cut and paste laziness.
So only 3 more episodes to practice our shouting at the telly then venting on here skills ready for series 2...
Edit:to readers of the tv thread excuse my cut and paste laziness.
Edited by AndyLeysh on Sunday 14th October 22:00
Yes the e type sunroof was awful, the MGB rear axle falling off was staged so was the etype reversing into the engine crane, but who cares its good fun !! My dads 86, been meticulous with his cars over the years but laughs his socks off at this show! Please dont pick it apart, its one of the funniest shows on TV.....how can you be serious about compaining about a show where Bernie weilds a spray gun painting the wheels green! Pure comedy!!
fossway said:
Yes the e type sunroof was awful, the MGB rear axle falling off was staged so was the etype reversing into the engine crane, but who cares its good fun !! My dads 86, been meticulous with his cars over the years but laughs his socks off at this show! Please dont pick it apart, its one of the funniest shows on TV.....how can you be serious about compaining about a show where Bernie weilds a spray gun painting the wheels green! Pure comedy!!
Oh sure, real Morecambe and Wise stuff this.The show has the comedy value of hemeroids; which is appropriate given it is made by *rs*h*l*s.
It is dumbed down to such a level that I fully expect to see Katy Price performing a full gearbox overhaul any time soon.
AndyLeysh said:
Apparently over a million viewers on Monday and someone mentioned 70,000 calls to win the E-type alone so looks like C5 are onto a winner, (as far as the advertisers are concerned anyway), also talk of a recommission...
So only 3 more episodes to practice our shouting at the telly then venting on here skills ready for series 2...
Edit:to readers of the tv thread excuse my cut and paste laziness.
That's only because there are 70,000 people stupid enough to think they will get £30k for it on Ebay.So only 3 more episodes to practice our shouting at the telly then venting on here skills ready for series 2...
Edit:to readers of the tv thread excuse my cut and paste laziness.
Edited by AndyLeysh on Sunday 14th October 22:00
Edited by radlet6 on Monday 15th October 08:54
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