Technology on modern cars

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crankedup

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Friday 6th January 2017
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My recently aquired Volvo 'amazon' of 1968 vintage is fairly bereft of electronic technology, as you would expect. Although compared to my previous vintage car, 1928 Vauxhall, the volvo is fairly brimming with tech'. Servo brakes, reclining seats, electric windscreen wipers and washers and it goes on.
My BMW M3 of 2003 vintage is said to be also much about anologue motoring, certainly compared with the very latest model it is almost caveman transport! I exagerate of course but you get the picture.
Just where will this technology lead to ?

Ken555

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203 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Caution Disk Brakes


MorganP104

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88 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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An interesting subject...

I reckon the next big developments will be in autonomous (self-driving) cars, and drivetrain technology.

I saw a chap from BMW on the TV last night suggesting that self-driving tech might be perfected by 2020/2021, and that autonomous vehicles would be commonplace on the roads by 2030.

As for drivetrains, think BMW i8 meets Tesla, for the masses (i.e. in your Fiesta, Focus, etc.)

crankedup

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Friday 6th January 2017
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Ken555 said:


Caution Disk Brakes
This reminds me of a caution badge on a vintage car 'caution 4 wheel brakes' . At a time when front wheels very often did not feature brakes at all

heebeegeetee

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206 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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crankedup said:
Ken555 said:


Caution Disk Brakes
This reminds me of a caution badge on a vintage car 'caution 4 wheel brakes' . At a time when front wheels very often did not feature brakes at all
I remember see a badge that said 'Front Brakes are for Wimps".

V8 Fettler

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90 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Dreary daily diesel cars are very efficient, but who in their right mind would be up and about at 0500hrs on a summer morning to drive the things through choice? The same probably applies to them electric cars. More tech = ideal for the M25 but where's the involvement and the interest?

sim16v

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159 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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crankedup said:

Just where will this technology lead to ?
Lots of cars being scrapped due to some minor electronic failure that no one has any idea how to find or fix.


It's already started now.....

tapkaJohnD

1,486 posts

162 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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My modern has "Diesel" written in LARGE LETTERS inside the filler flap.
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lowdrag

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171 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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For those of us who remember summer and winter oil changes it is the distance between service intervals that astonishes. Just look at the Mobil 1 experiment where they ran a BMW engine for one million miles and there was no wear. And when did you hear of someone getting out the grease gun? I still run on 20/50 though. My car is 55 years old yet has discs all roundand incredibly it CA do 0-140 in top gear with a bit of clutch-slipping to start with. Many of today's standard things were invented a century ago, like the Mitsubishi balancer shaft was introduced by Lanchester before the first world war.

PositronicRay

19,848 posts

141 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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The biggest benefits to the driver/passenger have been in NVH. Tech is often there because "they can" rather than "desirable"

Ambleton

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Saturday 7th January 2017
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I agree. Refinement over the last 50year of notoring is probably the biggest change to date. I have a big petrol lexus GS auto as a daily hack (although its 15+ years old now), and honestly I dont think ive been in a car thats been as quiet or comfy on a motorway cruising at 70mph.

Once the refinement had been nailed down in the mid naughties, car manufacturers started piling in tech goodies that were now feasible in a quieter, more comfortable cabin. Whilst the engine and drivetrain hasnt really seen a massive overhaul since the dawn of the IC, its now time to invest money in that, which is why we've seen the introduction of electric vehicles.

In reality, cars cant get that much more advanced in their current format

zappahey

43 posts

57 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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V8 Fettler said:
Dreary daily diesel cars are very efficient, but who in their right mind would be up and about at 0500hrs on a summer morning to drive the things through choice? The same probably applies to them electric cars. More tech = ideal for the M25 but where's the involvement and the interest?
Based on no evidence whatsoever, I would suggest that this is what matters for the majority of car owners.

crankedup

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Saturday 7th January 2017
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The mention of perfectly good cars written off due to electronic faults that cannot be fixed is of concern. Family member purchased a four year old car from dealer. Its been off road for six months whilst the electronic fault is fixed. Meanwhile dealer is suppling a loan car.

TooMany2cvs

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84 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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crankedup said:
Ken555 said:


Caution Disk Brakes
This reminds me of a caution badge on a vintage car 'caution 4 wheel brakes' . At a time when front wheels very often did not feature brakes at all
And, more recently, boot badges proudly proclaiming "ABS". Or "Fuel Injection". Or "Catalyst"...

angels95

1,799 posts

88 months

Saturday 7th January 2017
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crankedup said:
The mention of perfectly good cars written off due to electronic faults that cannot be fixed is of concern. Family member purchased a four year old car from dealer. Its been off road for six months whilst the electronic fault is fixed. Meanwhile dealer is suppling a loan car.
This is definitely the way things are going. Already starting to see it on cars like '04-ish Scenics with problems such as electronic parking brake failure and digital dash needing replacement. These issues cost more to put right than the car is worth, hence why they just get scrapped or stripped for parts instead!

Think I'll stick to driving around in my old banger!

dang2407

468 posts

66 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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Cars are too quiet now, firstly from the perspective of driver feedback and secondly, pedestrians and also animals in rural areas do not hear them.

lowdrag

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171 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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Ask any marshal these days about "silent" cars! When Audi went diesel at Le Mans they had one marshal on the lookout because you couldn't hear them until they had gone past.

LuS1fer

36,579 posts

203 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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They need to find a way of making safe cars attractive.

Most modern designs are minging, gopping or crime-scenes, new Civic, for example.

bearman68

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90 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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angels95 said:
crankedup said:
The mention of perfectly good cars written off due to electronic faults that cannot be fixed is of concern. Family member purchased a four year old car from dealer. Its been off road for six months whilst the electronic fault is fixed. Meanwhile dealer is suppling a loan car.
This is definitely the way things are going. Already starting to see it on cars like '04-ish Scenics with problems such as electronic parking brake failure and digital dash needing replacement. These issues cost more to put right than the car is worth, hence why they just get scrapped or stripped for parts instead!

Think I'll stick to driving around in my old banger!
Send them to me.I can fix both smile (And at reasonable cost)

crankedup

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Sunday 8th January 2017
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bearman68 said:
Send them to me.I can fix both smile (And at reasonable cost)
Your business is the future I would imagine, clean 'eat your breakfast off the floor' repairs environment. Men in white coats gazing at computer readouts.
Good honest businesses will thrive such as your's I am sure. As always sadly a rich vein of cash flow for the dishonest and gullible customer.