The end of our world as we know it.

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JD2329

481 posts

168 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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The fact that Volvo have covered themselves by simply referring to 'electrically powered' says it all.
A full EV is currently nowhere near being able to fulfill the role that an ICE vehicle can, and even if it were, the charging and generating infrastructure will take years to develop.
In any case, until full EVs can charge quickly - in a few minutes - they will be a non starter (couldn't resist)

More seriously, who can say whether the EV concept will actually be the future? Given the environmental damage in producing and disposing of batteries, together with a huge requirement in power generated from enviro-unfriendly national grids, it seems fundamentally flawed.
I'm no scientist (clearly) but some form of hydrogen power appears to be far cleaner, while offering an equivalent level of range, refuelling and usability to currently fuelled ICE.






Storer

5,024 posts

215 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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JD2329 said:
The fact that Volvo have covered themselves by simply referring to 'electrically powered' says it all.
A full EV is currently nowhere near being able to fulfill the role that an ICE vehicle can, and even if it were, the charging and generating infrastructure will take years to develop.
In any case, until full EVs can charge quickly - in a few minutes - they will be a non starter (couldn't resist)

More seriously, who can say whether the EV concept will actually be the future? Given the environmental damage in producing and disposing of batteries, together with a huge requirement in power generated from enviro-unfriendly national grids, it seems fundamentally flawed.
I'm no scientist (clearly) but some form of hydrogen power appears to be far cleaner, while offering an equivalent level of range, refuelling and usability to currently fuelled ICE.

The problem with hydrogen is that you need energy (electricity) to 'crack' it from water (if producing on a large scale). That energy will be more efficiently used to power a vehicle. It matters not how you produce the hydrogen it is energy hungry.

You then need to distribute the hydrogen if not using a fuel cell.

Electricity already has a distribution network.

Another advantage of electricity is the ability of an individual to produce his own energy.

Battery technology is moving on at a similar pace as the microchip did in the 1990/2000s. Lithium will soon be old tech and the new batteries will not have a 'memory', be much cheaper and easier to produce/recycle.

Another issue with liquid hydrogen would be driving round with all those little 'bombs' on board at high pressure. Issues with tunnels etc and you still make noise combusting the hydrogen and towns may find they are 'damp' all the time from exhaust vapour.