COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST! (Vol 3)
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Doofus said:
rolando said:
Back in 1984 I was running a '76 Rover 2200TC. My boss was very proud of his BMW 323i until he couldn't keep with me on the gentle westward rise on the M4 up to Membury services.
Which, given he had more power, more torque amd less weight, is surprising."One of my workers was so jealous of my new BMW 323i that he decided he had to race it in his crappy old Rover 2200TC. I had nothing to prove, so ignored him completely, and just left him to it. I'm sure in years to come he will be somewhere, pathetically bragging about how he outran a BMW 323i back in the day, in his 8 year old Rover!"
uk66fastback said:
Yes, top knowledge guys!
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Blown2CV said:
Dapster said:
Well used 280TE (160k + miles) which according to the MOT history hasn't moved in 14 years although I've seen it driving about. Dodgy chrome arches and saggy exhaust aside, looks in honest shape.
I love that. Begging out for a restomod or a faithful restoration Rostfritt said:
FWD cars handle better for most people. All this about RWD being 'balanced' only really translates to doing something like a rally stage with an experienced driver. Trying to drive on ice without ending up pointing in the wrong direction, I'll take the FWD car.
I've driven various RWD BMW's for the last 22 years on ice, on snow, in torrential rain, in all weathers. I've never driven like Miss Daisy's in the back, and I've never had one swap ends on me - Even on ice! (I've had the rear end step out on me on the rare occasions, but it's pretty easily dealt with).
Quite often when driving in a "spirited" fashion on a twisty bit of road, I'll use the throttle and the rear end of the car to adjust the car's angle mid-bend. I'm not a rally driver, or a race car driver, or some other sort of super talented driver, I'd say on my best day I'm a mediocre driver, but 22 years of driving RWD cars has taught me how to handle them.
I don't think it's a case that FWD's "handle better for most people", I think it's more a case that FWD car's are easier to deal with for most people, easier to control, and less daunting than RWD, because they don't have to worry about what the rear end of the car is doing (unless they're dopey enough to lift-off at high speed mid-corner - Then they suddenly find out about lift-off over-steer, panic, and end up backwards through a hedge, or wrapped around a tree!).
At the end of the day, there's far more skill and talent required to drive a RWD car fast than there is a FWD - Ask any highly trained/race driver, and they will all tell you the same.
If you think "All this about RWD being 'balanced' only really translates to doing something like a rally stage with an experienced driver" - Then you really don't know much about driving RWD cars!
Doofus said:
LotusOmega375D said:
Blimey looks awful!
I admit, I'm not a fan. It's perfectly flat, whereas the steel roof had a contour. In Harry's defence, I think it was there when he got the car. He's recently had it restored, rather than deleted, so it was presumably worth keeping.4rephill said:
I don't think it's a case that FWD's "handle better for most people", I think it's more a case that FWD car's are easier to deal with for most people, easier to control, and less daunting than RWD, because they don't have to worry about what the rear end of the car is doing (unless they're dopey enough to lift-off at high speed mid-corner - Then they suddenly find out about lift-off over-steer, panic, and end up backwards through a hedge, or wrapped around a tree!).
At the end of the day, there's far more skill and talent required to drive a RWD car fast than there is a FWD - Ask any highly trained/race driver, and they will all tell you the same.
I think, unwittingly, you have just proved the point you were trying to refute!At the end of the day, there's far more skill and talent required to drive a RWD car fast than there is a FWD - Ask any highly trained/race driver, and they will all tell you the same.
FWD cars are easier to drive for most people.
Oh, and RWD can be a liability in slippery conditions. On my commute (when we used to do such things) there is a mile long bank with a roundabout halfway up. A couple of winters ago I was following an E class Merc up said bank in light snow, as we exited the roundabout, really very slowly, he could not get any power down, I guess traction control, he had to reduce his speed to an absolute crawl, my little old Yaris just pootled past and away up the hill no fuss at all. Nothing to do with skill, FWD is superior in such conditions.
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