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uk66fastback said:
Surely that style is reserved for a MkII?
Well yes, but you have to daily a shabby XJ 2.8 with the short diff to understand, its just how they are.I also had a 240, those baby XK motors are brilliant.
Despite an undisclosed number of disreputable old Jags I've never had a 4.2.
tr7v8 said:
I-am-the-reverend said:
klunkT5 said:
registered in May 1973 it is one of the last 2.8's made, How did your 2.8 auto S1 Daimler go performance wise in your opinion? I am all ear's!
Iirc Jaguar finally worked out the piston dramas and fitted different pistons by the end. They continued the 2.8 in the Series 2 for export markets.The 3.4 is underrated as well. I used to service a Carriage brown T reg Series 2 (with the velour) and it went really well. Same long stroke as the 4.2 but the stiffer block helped.
Edited by klunkT5 on Saturday 22 March 17:48
Huntsman said:
uk66fastback said:
Surely that style is reserved for a MkII?
Well yes, but you have to daily a shabby XJ 2.8 with the short diff to understand, its just how they are.I also had a 240, those baby XK motors are brilliant.
Despite an undisclosed number of disreputable old Jags I've never had a 4.2.
Edited by klunkT5 on Saturday 22 March 22:11
klunkT5 said:
Yep, Having owned 4.2's, 3.8's, 3.4's the smoothest Jag XK6 engines i have ever owned are the short stroke 2.8 in my S1 and the lovely little 2.4 in a 1958 MK1 i had yonks ago, The 2.4 MK1 had a balanced crank with a lightened flywheel, Fck all torque but It revved like the clappers up to 7K rpm+ and went really well, I reckon it would have given a 3.4 MK2 a run for it's money! I so wish i never had sold it, It was an ex Practical classics magazine staff car that i did a swaparoony with Roland Stoat of the then MK2 restoration specialist RS Coachworks, He got a rusty 1965 genuine MK2 3.8 manual and a rusty 1963 3.4 MK2 manual and i took the MK1 in exchange, It's reg was 446 CJO.
The 2.4 in the 240 had a straight port head and SU's, an absolute belter.Edited by klunkT5 on Saturday 22 March 19:50
Huntsman said:
klunkT5 said:
Yep, Having owned 4.2's, 3.8's, 3.4's the smoothest Jag XK6 engines i have ever owned are the short stroke 2.8 in my S1 and the lovely little 2.4 in a 1958 MK1 i had yonks ago, The 2.4 MK1 had a balanced crank with a lightened flywheel, Fck all torque but It revved like the clappers up to 7K rpm+ and went really well, I reckon it would have given a 3.4 MK2 a run for it's money! I so wish i never had sold it, It was an ex Practical classics magazine staff car that i did a swaparoony with Roland Stoat of the then MK2 restoration specialist RS Coachworks, He got a rusty 1965 genuine MK2 3.8 manual and a rusty 1963 3.4 MK2 manual and i took the MK1 in exchange, It's reg was 446 CJO.
The 2.4 in the 240 had a straight port head and SU's, an absolute belter.Edited by klunkT5 on Saturday 22 March 19:50
Edited by klunkT5 on Saturday 22 March 22:23
Buying a Series XJ6 is a minefield, Imagine spending £20K on one and then finding a crack or rust bubble on the paint and then breaking the paint to find you have bought a tarted up rotter, You really can't win, My S1 is a garage find, 95% original bodyshell but it needs a Repaint, A small amount of welding and a going through of the mechanical's though it runs, Drives and stops nice last time i fired it up, Luckily the interior is very decent underlining it's low miles but the cost of a decent paintjob and all the other bit's will cost more ££ to sort out than the car is worth being a 2.8 Auto! I think you have to put ££ to one side and if you love the car and it has sentimental value then you pay the money.
klunkT5 said:
Buying a Series XJ6 is a minefield, Imagine spending £20K on one and then finding a crack or rust bubble on the paint and then breaking the paint to find you have bought a tarted up rotter, You really can't win, My S1 is a garage find, 95% original bodyshell but it needs a Repaint, A small amount of welding and a going through of the mechanical's though it runs, Drives and stops nice last time i fired it up, Luckily the interior is very decent underlining it's low miles but the cost of a decent paintjob and all the other bit's will cost more ££ to sort out than the car is worth being a 2.8 Auto! I think you have to put ££ to one side and if you love the car and it has sentimental value then you pay the money.
Tell me about it.klunkT5 said:
The 2.8's holing pistons was down to the piston dwell at TDC, Funny how the short stroke 2.4 never suffered with it? Jaguar fitted modified pistons that my 2.8 S1 has but also issued a TSB on ignition timing changes as well, Looking at a Haynes S1 workshop manual the updated ignition timings are not there!
The modified pistons (2.8) were fitted from engine no. 7G-8849, sometime late 70'- early '71, or thereabouts, and numerous earlier cars were also retro-fitted with them.Rather than adding to other posts, the changes to curved exhaust tips, reflectors etc. occurred at various times, ie.
Exhaust tips changed from the straight tips in mid-'69, supposedly as airflow along the car sucked fumes into open windows (not the boot) and curved tips resolved it.
Rear reflectors changed March '70 due to changes in lighting regns (and rear light unit marked differently)
Mid '70, headlamp chrome surround had air intake for footwell vents
Chrome dials changed to black Oct '70
March '71, 3-piece rear bumper
2.8s and 4.2s used HD8 (2") carbs.
Quoted figures were 140bhp (net) and 150 ft/ lbs @ 4,250 for 2.8; 173bhp and 227 ft/lbs @ 3,000rpm for 4.2
Supposedly nine 380s were made (no records?), fitted with 3.8 S-type engines, so presumably with B-type heads but there seems to be some debate about that, and likewise whether all 340s had straight port heads, especially US-market ones. No doubt parts were being used up at the time so not all cars were the same, especially across all markets?
It's just as well we're all different; I prefer the Daimler grille on the Series 1, followed by the V12 and then the XJ6 one.
Given the choice I'd opt for Daimler Series 1 66 VP, Morello Cherry or Aubergine, with Chamois interior, Kent Alloys, but fitted with the late Series 3 Daimler interior seat/door fittings and a later 6-litre V12
Eta: despite what my (normally reliable) reference says re exhaust tips, I suspect the '69 date is incorrect as there are in-period photos of J-regd Jaguar press cars with straight tips, so more likely late '70 / '71?
Edited by TarquinMX5 on Monday 24th March 08:12
Huntsman said:
klunkT5 said:
Buying a Series XJ6 is a minefield, Imagine spending £20K on one and then finding a crack or rust bubble on the paint and then breaking the paint to find you have bought a tarted up rotter, You really can't win, My S1 is a garage find, 95% original bodyshell but it needs a Repaint, A small amount of welding and a going through of the mechanical's though it runs, Drives and stops nice last time i fired it up, Luckily the interior is very decent underlining it's low miles but the cost of a decent paintjob and all the other bit's will cost more ££ to sort out than the car is worth being a 2.8 Auto! I think you have to put ££ to one side and if you love the car and it has sentimental value then you pay the money.
Tell me about it.I-am-the-reverend said:
Established 1975.
Indeed - it was around then that my godfather was running a back street bodyshop bodging cars on behalf of most of Sunderland's finest dealers. He had a succession of XJ6's (which were still cheap following the oil crisis) which never stayed long but definitely made a lasting impression in my young mind. In his eighties now he's wafting around in a W124 Mercedes coupe when he's not out sailing in his 1929 yacht on the Norfolk Broads.Another S1 for sale
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/297163814703?itmmeta=01...
First thing i notice is miss matched carbs and having the heat transfer crap on top of the cam covers i assume a later S2 4.2 engine has been fitted, Interesting to see what this sell's for. Nice colour combo though!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/297163814703?itmmeta=01...
First thing i notice is miss matched carbs and having the heat transfer crap on top of the cam covers i assume a later S2 4.2 engine has been fitted, Interesting to see what this sell's for. Nice colour combo though!
Edited by klunkT5 on Sunday 30th March 18:29
klunkT5 said:
Another S1 for sale
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/297163814703?itmmeta=01...
First thing i notice is miss matched carbs and having the heat transfer crap on top of the cam covers i assume a later S2 4.2 engine has been fitted, Interesting to see what this sell's for. Nice colour combo though!
That terrible glass sunroof ruins it for me-what were they thinking!!https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/297163814703?itmmeta=01...
First thing i notice is miss matched carbs and having the heat transfer crap on top of the cam covers i assume a later S2 4.2 engine has been fitted, Interesting to see what this sell's for. Nice colour combo though!
Edited by klunkT5 on Sunday 30th March 18:29
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