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Any thoughts on keeping a series 1 outside?
Mine has been tucked away up north in a wooden garage for the best part of twenty years at my parents place with my Dad using it regularly until the last couple of years.
It now needs to be moved, and it taken me a while but I've finally found a lock-up quite local to me in London that will fit the XJ. The downside is it's £250 a month which is apparently the going rate these days.
Now I have a driveway and Hagerty will insure the Jag on that basis but my old man believes it will rapidly deteriorate if it's not garaged.
On the other hand man maths tells me £3k a year goes a long way towards the upkeep - a respray will be on the cards at some point anyway and the end of the rear sills needs replacing.
That said it has been garaged all of it's life and that's the only rust so maybe he's right....
Mine has been tucked away up north in a wooden garage for the best part of twenty years at my parents place with my Dad using it regularly until the last couple of years.
It now needs to be moved, and it taken me a while but I've finally found a lock-up quite local to me in London that will fit the XJ. The downside is it's £250 a month which is apparently the going rate these days.
Now I have a driveway and Hagerty will insure the Jag on that basis but my old man believes it will rapidly deteriorate if it's not garaged.
On the other hand man maths tells me £3k a year goes a long way towards the upkeep - a respray will be on the cards at some point anyway and the end of the rear sills needs replacing.
That said it has been garaged all of it's life and that's the only rust so maybe he's right....
Edited by wjs1968 on Monday 31st March 22:42
wjs1968 said:
Any thoughts on keeping a series 1 outside?
Mine has been tucked away up north in a wooden garage for the best part of twenty years at my parents place with my Dad using it regularly until the last couple of years.
It now needs to be moved, and it taken me a while but I've finally found a lock-up quite local to me in London that will fit the XJ. The downside is it's £250 a month which is apparently the going rate these days.
Now I have a driveway and Hagerty will insure the Jag on that basis but my old man believes it will rapidly deteriorate if it's not garaged.
On the other hand man maths tells me £3k a year goes a long way towards the upkeep - a respray will be on the cards at some point anyway and the end of the rear sills needs replacing.
That said it has been garaged all of it's life and that's the only rust so maybe he's right....
He’s right.Mine has been tucked away up north in a wooden garage for the best part of twenty years at my parents place with my Dad using it regularly until the last couple of years.
It now needs to be moved, and it taken me a while but I've finally found a lock-up quite local to me in London that will fit the XJ. The downside is it's £250 a month which is apparently the going rate these days.
Now I have a driveway and Hagerty will insure the Jag on that basis but my old man believes it will rapidly deteriorate if it's not garaged.
On the other hand man maths tells me £3k a year goes a long way towards the upkeep - a respray will be on the cards at some point anyway and the end of the rear sills needs replacing.
That said it has been garaged all of it's life and that's the only rust so maybe he's right....
Edited by wjs1968 on Monday 31st March 22:42
wjs1968 said:
Any thoughts on keeping a series 1 outside?
Mine has been tucked away up north in a wooden garage for the best part of twenty years at my parents place with my Dad using it regularly until the last couple of years.
It now needs to be moved, and it taken me a while but I've finally found a lock-up quite local to me in London that will fit the XJ. The downside is it's £250 a month which is apparently the going rate these days.
Now I have a driveway and Hagerty will insure the Jag on that basis but my old man believes it will rapidly deteriorate if it's not garaged.
On the other hand man maths tells me £3k a year goes a long way towards the upkeep - a respray will be on the cards at some point anyway and the end of the rear sills needs replacing.
That said it has been garaged all of it's life and that's the only rust so maybe he's right....
My P6 estate isnt the most weatherproof car in the world by any means, so I put it away in winter and I'm certain that it helps protect it.Mine has been tucked away up north in a wooden garage for the best part of twenty years at my parents place with my Dad using it regularly until the last couple of years.
It now needs to be moved, and it taken me a while but I've finally found a lock-up quite local to me in London that will fit the XJ. The downside is it's £250 a month which is apparently the going rate these days.
Now I have a driveway and Hagerty will insure the Jag on that basis but my old man believes it will rapidly deteriorate if it's not garaged.
On the other hand man maths tells me £3k a year goes a long way towards the upkeep - a respray will be on the cards at some point anyway and the end of the rear sills needs replacing.
That said it has been garaged all of it's life and that's the only rust so maybe he's right....
Edited by wjs1968 on Monday 31st March 22:42
That said, this winter I needed the space in the workshop to fiddle about with some other stuff, so the Rover was outside after christmas with a cover and that seemed ok.
Although my Silver Shadow suffered when I tried that, the paint faded terribly where the cover rested on the roof.
I would say with a decent cover its not the best, but would be ok.
Definately not left uncovered.
Thanks both - one of the reasons I moved the car up north was I lost my garage and it lived outside for 6 months and I was worried it was starting to deteriorate. I still have a very expensive outdoor cover I bought then but as you say Huntsman I was not convinced especially when it rained heavily - it would stay wet for days...
wjs1968 said:
we're in a conservation area and I think a carcoon or similar would be classified as a temporary structure and as such you'd need planning (which they would refuse) - I may be wrong but I've heard stories of bike sheds being dismantled on orders of the council
Hedges are wonderful things, not a lot you can see behind a 10-foot high Laurel hedge; when I had my grade 2 listed Victorian farmhouse we fortunately didn't have any neighbours, and little in the way of passing traffic, though anyone aiming to see what was on the drive had absolutely no chance. If some daft git had started kicking up a stink about something as trivial as a 'carcoon' i'd sooner have razed the whole property to the ground than adhere to their nonsensical whimsy. Personally i would put it in a Carcoon as it is just an inflated fabric tent and not a structure, My limited knowledge defines a 'Structure' as rooted into the ground, A Carcoon is not, The car hold's it in place and it can be deflated and packed away in minutes! So tell the council to FRO if they come knocking. Fat chance of them going to the cost of Court proceeding's for that and most probably getting it thrown out, What law says you can't pitch a tent up on your own property? A tent is not a structure! And for £250 a month for a lock up in London a Carcoon is a bargain no brainer even if you have to replace it every 2 or 3 years due to degradation!
Edited by klunkT5 on Tuesday 1st April 14:52
Just spoken to Mrs WJS68 who happens to be an architect - i am mistaken (as she will happily point out is so often the case) as we are not in a conservation area (by a couple of streets apparently) and therefore do not need permission from the council to erect a temporary structure.
However I do need her permission. Which she has denied.
However I do need her permission. Which she has denied.
CKY said:
Hedges are wonderful things, not a lot you can see behind a 10-foot high Laurel hedge; when I had my grade 2 listed Victorian farmhouse we fortunately didn't have any neighbours, and little in the way of passing traffic, though anyone aiming to see what was on the drive had absolutely no chance. If some daft git had started kicking up a stink about something as trivial as a 'carcoon' i'd sooner have razed the whole property to the ground than adhere to their nonsensical whimsy.
They are but unfortunately we are talking about a London driveway ie about 7 metres long, in front of the house leading directly onto the road. Anyways I think I have made my decision - summer is approaching, I have a decent quote from Shipley, my T25 is up for sale leaving the driveway free - going to bring it down, use it, see how much work it really needs and how much I still like it - and then either sell before winter or get a a garage.
Thank you all.
Edited by wjs1968 on Tuesday 1st April 16:29
Edited by wjs1968 on Tuesday 1st April 16:30
Coincidentally I have been thinking along similar lines - could I buy an old Jag but before I’ve created the space by selljng my 240z? It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve bought the one to be garaged while still having the current garaged one in there. The 240 came from the US so I had 6-8 weeks to sell the Mustang I had.
Thing that puts me off is this is a busy road in a village and w
kers use it - the kind who keyed my 944 a decade ago. Three pubs within spitting distance means you get a cross section of society for sure ambling by of a Fr/Sat.
It’d break my heart to buy one and something similar happened to it like with the 944.
Thing that puts me off is this is a busy road in a village and w
kers use it - the kind who keyed my 944 a decade ago. Three pubs within spitting distance means you get a cross section of society for sure ambling by of a Fr/Sat.It’d break my heart to buy one and something similar happened to it like with the 944.
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