New arrival. Exige 410 Sport

New arrival. Exige 410 Sport

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ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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We were back at Goodwood on Monday with Opentrack, and as usual it was a cracking day. The weather played ball and if my maths is correct there were no red flags and we managed 67 laps in all, over 7 x 12 minute sessions.

Jim Valentine of 2bular had recently updated my 350mm bolt on cans so it was pleasing to achieve a full day with no noise boards. It was a quiet day at Goodwood too, so a 98db static and 94db drive-by.

Here are the hideous but effective items.....



Rob Baxter was on site taking lots of pics as usual and it was good to bump into Jason Cornish too who sent me an awesome pan shot.












Performance wise we had a really good run. Despite the old tyres we were settled at 1m30s all day and with good scope to hit 1m28s ... or maybe even better, once I fit new rubber.



The brakes have probably only got a few more track days in them I reckon.



Here's the last lap of the day. Pretty smooth, and with more in the tank:

https://youtu.be/D2MpvYjDcwc

And a rusty full first session of the day.

https://youtu.be/_EpdeJ8s3Dk

We're back at Goodwood in 4 weeks for a 105db day so hopefully there will be more to come on the laptimes.

Eddie

BertBert

19,039 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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Excellent adventures - looks great and fast times too! There's a lot of hairline cracks in the disks by the looks of them. Are you sure they are ok?

Not the same, but it's no fun when they go...


ecain63

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Wednesday 21st April 2021
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BertBert said:
Excellent adventures - looks great and fast times too! There's a lot of hairline cracks in the disks by the looks of them. Are you sure they are ok?

Not the same, but it's no fun when they go...

Yeah, I've asked a few guys and I'm reliably informed that because the cracks are only in the surface they're ok. As soon as they start to go full depth then they are due a change. The good thing is that they are not drilled so shouldn't crack all the way through without warning.

BertBert

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211 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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ecain63 said:
Yeah, I've asked a few guys and I'm reliably informed that because the cracks are only in the surface they're ok. As soon as they start to go full depth then they are due a change. The good thing is that they are not drilled so shouldn't crack all the way through without warning.
Probably ok then!

honda_exige

6,023 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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ecain63 said:
We were back at Goodwood on Monday with Opentrack, and as usual it was a cracking day. The weather played ball and if my maths is correct there were no red flags and we managed 67 laps in all, over 7 x 12 minute sessions.

Jim Valentine of 2bular had recently updated my 350mm bolt on cans so it was pleasing to achieve a full day with no noise boards. It was a quiet day at Goodwood too, so a 98db static and 94db drive-by.

Here are the hideous but effective items.....



Rob Baxter was on site taking lots of pics as usual and it was good to bump into Jason Cornish too who sent me an awesome pan shot.












Performance wise we had a really good run. Despite the old tyres we were settled at 1m30s all day and with good scope to hit 1m28s ... or maybe even better, once I fit new rubber.



The brakes have probably only got a few more track days in them I reckon.



Here's the last lap of the day. Pretty smooth, and with more in the tank:

https://youtu.be/D2MpvYjDcwc

And a rusty full first session of the day.

https://youtu.be/_EpdeJ8s3Dk

We're back at Goodwood in 4 weeks for a 105db day so hopefully there will be more to come on the laptimes.

Eddie
Hey mate was a great day, and your car was immense. Yeah those discs definitely looked fine to me, though if it was a GT3 the OPC would no doubt be trying to fleece you for a whole new set ASAP hehe

https://www.essexparts.com/news-blog/when-is-it-ti...

ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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An interesting and reassuring article about our discs: https://www.essexparts.com/news-blog/when-is-it-ti...

Thanks for the info beer And good to meet you on Monday.

Arun_D

2,302 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Those discs look in good health, Eddie. I reckon mine would look like that after one or two sessions on PF08s.

As said elsewhere, well done on getting your time down to a very respectable marker, I can see you knocking that down again next time out. I better get one in without a passenger or you'll be leapfrogging me soon! biggrin

honda_exige

6,023 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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ecain63 said:
An interesting and reassuring article about our discs: https://www.essexparts.com/news-blog/when-is-it-ti...

Thanks for the info beer And good to meet you on Monday.
I'm back at Goodwood on 2nd June with Evo Trackdays, its an addictive track!

Very good mate should be there with his freshly delivered 992 GT3, be interesting to see how that does.

https://evotrackdays.co.uk/evotrackseries2021/en/p...

ecain63

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175 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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honda_exige said:
ecain63 said:
An interesting and reassuring article about our discs: https://www.essexparts.com/news-blog/when-is-it-ti...

Thanks for the info beer And good to meet you on Monday.
I'm back at Goodwood on 2nd June with Evo Trackdays, its an addictive track!

Very good mate should be there with his freshly delivered 992 GT3, be interesting to see how that does.

https://evotrackdays.co.uk/evotrackseries2021/en/p...
Unfortunately the EVO dates for this year clash with work. I usually go so would have seen you there. I'm back at Goodwood on the 17th May smile

ecain63

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175 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Arun_D said:
Those discs look in good health, Eddie. I reckon mine would look like that after one or two sessions on PF08s.

As said elsewhere, well done on getting your time down to a very respectable marker, I can see you knocking that down again next time out. I better get one in without a passenger or you'll be leapfrogging me soon! biggrin
You need to be matching that bloke Pittard on your next run. He can drive mind you wink

Hopefully we'll be at the same event sometime.

ecain63

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175 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Rocketreid

626 posts

72 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Interesting to see the extra long cans on your QP exhaust, are the 350mm that come with the system not quiet enough.

Opinions seem to view Jim’s exhaust as the best but you encounter a few issues with the fitment, was this your experience?

As an aside I have just had new discs/pads and also had the 3 way Nitrons serviced and it has transformed the handling. Also tested out Meteor Motorsports track settings at Donington and was impressed

ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Rocketreid said:
Interesting to see the extra long cans on your QP exhaust, are the 350mm that come with the system not quiet enough.

Opinions seem to view Jim’s exhaust as the best but you encounter a few issues with the fitment, was this your experience?

As an aside I have just had new discs/pads and also had the 3 way Nitrons serviced and it has transformed the handling. Also tested out Meteor Motorsports track settings at Donington and was impressed
These are the same 350mm cans I had before (he usually supplies 300mm unless you ask), I just sent them back in Jan for a refresh as well as having the tips extended so I can divert the sound output even more. This update seems to work really well, and Goodwood was the acid test for this. Not pretty though eh smile

As for system itself..... I don't know who is saying the fitment has issues but my experience is good. No issues getting it on or off and it does what it says on the tin. Can't fault it personally.

Did you get your discs direct from Lotus? A couple of us are looking to source the rotors from AP. Being proper 2 piece items you don't need the bells replaced when doing a disc change, only the rotor and bolts. Lotus seem to want to supply bells as part of the kit, which is unnecessary outlay. Seriously Lotus sell the rotors etc but I am trying to get a kit price from my local Lotus dealer direct from AP.

I'll look at having my Nitrons serviced in the Autumn. They get looked at regularly in the workshop and they feel fine on track so I won't rush to have them stripped down just yet. I will also look at having the passenger side rear reservoir moved if i can. The positioning of it makes it really awkward to get to when you want to adjust the settings. Do you find the same thing on yours? Did you notice any negatives with your suspension before the strip down / service?

Rocketreid

626 posts

72 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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I am looking at Jim’s system and would like it to be quiet so may need the extension on the cans as well. I have a Komotec airbox fitted which makes it all a bit noisier but helps no end with getting your hand in to adjust the dampers.

My local dealer have fitted a couple and did say it took a bit of fettling to fit, but possibly to justify their high fitting costs

Brakes and pads are stock Cup430 now although did consider the Seriouslotus Alcon discs this time and did have the Performance Friction pads fitted but found them too noisy and whistley on road

Suspension wise I noticed performance had dropped slightly and there was a bit more thudding on road. The transformation is very good and it handles better than out of the factory although the springs are far too stiff being 1,100

custardkid

2,514 posts

224 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Fitted my 2bular exhaust
No issues.
can't remember how long it took.. an hour or two end to end I think

ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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custardkid said:
Fitted my 2bular exhaust
No issues.
can't remember how long it took.. an hour or two end to end I think
Yeah, it's pretty easy. Think it was 90 mins without the use of a ramp for me.

@rocketreid, did you not have J-hooks before if you've got Cup430 brakes now?

Rocketreid

626 posts

72 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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ecain63 said:
Yeah, it's pretty easy. Think it was 90 mins without the use of a ramp for me.

@rocketreid, did you not have J-hooks before if you've got Cup430 brakes now?
I’ve had trouble getting hold of Jim this week to order the exhaust but will probably get dealer to put it on initially and remove and reinstall myself going forward

Mine is a Cup430 so J Hooks standard but fitted PF pads the last time they were changed

ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Thursday 6th May 2021
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Rocketreid said:
I’ve had trouble getting hold of Jim this week to order the exhaust but will probably get dealer to put it on initially and remove and reinstall myself going forward

Mine is a Cup430 so J Hooks standard but fitted PF pads the last time they were changed
Gotcha. I thought you were saying you didn't have J-hooks lol

Rocketreid

626 posts

72 months

Thursday 6th May 2021
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Spoke to Jim today concerning his QP exhaust and he was very complimentary about you.

I had a really good chat with him and because I don’t do the worst noise restricted circuits, most are 98db driveby that I do or higher, he was advising that the 70mm non valved Track/Road system may be best and add the cans in case.

Did you consider this ? Or are the circuits you do lower db’s

ecain63

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175 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Rocketreid said:
Spoke to Jim today concerning his QP exhaust and he was very complimentary about you.

I had a really good chat with him and because I don’t do the worst noise restricted circuits, most are 98db driveby that I do or higher, he was advising that the 70mm non valved Track/Road system may be best and add the cans in case.

Did you consider this ? Or are the circuits you do lower db’s
He's a really good guy. Unfortunately we live in a world where people click their fingers and expect stuff to arrive the same / following day.... hence he gets a bit of stick about lead times and delays. I work in manufacture also so can understand his frustrations. There are only so many hours in the day and if you can't hire a helper you can trust to produce things to the high standards you've built your business on then you're stuck on your own and having to do the best you can for your understanding customers. I like the fact his business is just him and his phone. I know his product isn't coming off a pallet from the far east and it's been tested to suit..... and it does what it says on the tin.

Anyway, back to the question. No, I didn't consider the track/road system. I live nearest to Goodwood and Thruxton so had to do my buying based on the most common enemy. Luckily Thruxton is easy to get on due to it being a static test only. Unless you buzz the tower at silly dB then it's unlikely anyone will pull the gun on you for a driveby test. Goodwood is the track I visit the most and even though it's a higher dB for static the driveby is a bugger to avoid. The circuit / wall layout and weather can really affect your output readings and I believe the local council / NIMBYs are particularly fussy so the circuit have to do what they can to keep themselves clear of grief.

Ref the system you mention: I think he's recently redesigned it for noise output. Did he elaborate on details of any changes made?