Elise prices. What's going on?

Elise prices. What's going on?

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Shnozz

28,374 posts

282 months

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braddo said:
Matty_ said:
... I'd be interested myself but Red is by far my least favourite Lotus colour....
It's funny how subjective colour is. I really like red Lotuses but couldn't own a red Porsche or Ferrari. And I wouldn't want any of them in bright green or orange!
Likewise, I do not like red cars and Lotus is no exception - really not a fan...and yet I adore orange on a Lotus and many think my Exige is in fact red from photos...

bennno

13,276 posts

280 months

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Shnozz said:
braddo said:
Matty_ said:
... I'd be interested myself but Red is by far my least favourite Lotus colour....
It's funny how subjective colour is. I really like red Lotuses but couldn't own a red Porsche or Ferrari. And I wouldn't want any of them in bright green or orange!
Likewise, I do not like red cars and Lotus is no exception - really not a fan...and yet I adore orange on a Lotus and many think my Exige is in fact red from photos...
Id prefer a Lotus in orange, I don't mind red on a Porsche and it's defacto on a Ferrari.

It's white that i'm just not a fan of. Especially on Audi SUV's.

Shnozz

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282 months

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bennno said:
Id prefer a Lotus in orange, I don't mind red on a Porsche and it's defacto on a Ferrari.

It's white that i'm just not a fan of. Especially on Audi SUV's.
I don't disagree re the Porsche and Fezza.

Re white - I think its a throw back to Cannonball Run but I do like Lambos in white. Most other cars I am a bit meh with it.

fridaypassion

9,806 posts

239 months

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You say that with Ferrari but it does make it easier to sell and they do look incredible in the Rosso Corsa. I adored my 458 (in the knob head red) I'm hoping to get another one but would be open to yellow or white on the next one.

Green is still the big colour for lotus at the moment orange isn't doing the easy business it used to unfortunately. There's some crazy money been handed over for a Krypton S2 back end of last year. The Kawasaki green cup I had blew the phones up. If only the fever for green had extended to the Olive green S3! Oh well onwards and upwards.


highway

2,200 posts

271 months

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Did you sell your FE Cup Jon?

fridaypassion

9,806 posts

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Sadly yes. Never thought I would sell that car but at the time I had 9 cars and a Porsche coming and it was a big chunk towards that! I bought the RGB and really since then I just didnt use the Cup. I also badly injured my knee so all those things together it was bye bye Cup.

braddo

11,669 posts

199 months

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I do love Lotus's motorsport green. I'd like an Evora in that colour - I remember seeing one in the PH classifieds years ago.

fridaypassion

9,806 posts

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It's not bad!

bennno

13,276 posts

280 months

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Shnozz said:
I don't disagree re the Porsche and Fezza.

Re white - I think its a throw back to Cannonball Run but I do like Lambos in white. Most other cars I am a bit meh with it.
Lambo in cannonball was black from memory, but it did carry a few distractions....

Beachbum

2,542 posts

242 months

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bennno said:
Lambo in cannonball was black from memory, but it did carry a few distractions....
Wasnt it white dust, that then was hosed off and blabk underneath?

BertBert

20,088 posts

222 months

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fridaypassion said:


It's not bad!
Wow!

Shnozz

28,374 posts

282 months

Beachbum said:
bennno said:
Lambo in cannonball was black from memory, but it did carry a few distractions....
Wasnt it white dust, that then was hosed off and blabk underneath?
Black in CR1, started off white in CR2 and then hosed to reveal red.

Jack91F

77 posts

122 months

The Elise S 134 that Jon seal is selling is interesting. Cheaper than almost all the private ones for sale and that’s from a dealer. People either cant be in a rush sell or don’t need to sell.
I’m looking to finally scratch the itch for an Elise this year but finding it hard to pull the trigger, because I don’t want to overpay incase I don’t like it and need to sell it again. Because they seem to struggle to sell. (111R and S models)

T_S_M

996 posts

194 months

Jack91F said:
The Elise S 134 that Jon seal is selling is interesting. Cheaper than almost all the private ones for sale and that’s from a dealer. People either cant be in a rush sell or don’t need to sell.
I’m looking to finally scratch the itch for an Elise this year but finding it hard to pull the trigger, because I don’t want to overpay incase I don’t like it and need to sell it again. Because they seem to struggle to sell. (111R and S models)
Jon seems to a lot cheaper than others in general from what I’ve seen, even private sellers.

It almost sets the market. Whose going to buy an Exige privately for £48k, when Jon is advertising them for £43k with all the benefits of buying from a reputable dealer.

bennno

13,276 posts

280 months

Shnozz said:
Black in CR1, started off white in CR2 and then hosed to reveal red.
Never knew there was a cr2 - have to watch that.

Belle427

10,145 posts

244 months

T_S_M said:
Jack91F said:
The Elise S 134 that Jon seal is selling is interesting. Cheaper than almost all the private ones for sale and that’s from a dealer. People either cant be in a rush sell or don’t need to sell.
I’m looking to finally scratch the itch for an Elise this year but finding it hard to pull the trigger, because I don’t want to overpay incase I don’t like it and need to sell it again. Because they seem to struggle to sell. (111R and S models)
Jon seems to a lot cheaper than others in general from what I’ve seen, even private sellers.

It almost sets the market. Whose going to buy an Exige privately for £48k, when Jon is advertising them for £43k with all the benefits of buying from a reputable dealer.
I've just sold my 111R but it took me 8 months.
Managed to get £19k for it but lost £4000 on it in 2 years. I overpaid slightly but that's what the market was at the time.
I'd think carefully if your not sure it's a keeper but you could bag a bargain if your savvy.
There was a nice Autumn gold 111R being advertised on the Facebook group that probably could have been bought for £17k ish.

fridaypassion

9,806 posts

239 months

I'm pretty sure if you look back on this thread about this time I might have said it was about 20k right back then. I think you have done very well to get 19 for it TBH probably a bit of a sign that the green shoots of a bit of a recovery are out there now.

If anyones looking for a bit of a reason my stuff is generally better priced its pretty simple in the main I own the cars I do very very little SOR. In the world of plate glass dealers with suits/aftershave and shiny showrooms its you the customer both buyer and seller that pays for all this stuff. Most of what you'll see in the fancy places is on SOR. The dealer makes some crazy claim to the seller about the money they can get for the car and it will sit there forever. I like to get things in that will move quickly. I would say even with this approach it still only 50% of cars that go in a decent (for me) timescale. Some of the prices out there are absolutely crazy,. I just listed a 3000 mile GT410 Sport for 60. One of the places with the impressive premises...same car listed today with 4 x the mileage for 65k. We all have our own thing that works for us but I don't think any of the other big dealers have the hit rate of buybacks and repeat business I see as if you have rinsed a customer they might make a duff decision when buying but it will dawn on them they have overpaid and it really pisses people off if the feel they have had their leg lifted. I try to strike the right balance I'm not doing this job as a charity its fecking stressful and has to be well compensated for exposing your mental/physical health to it but I think usually we get them out at a good price and that gets me first dibs when it comes to buying back usually and thats been a cornerstone of the business. I'm always on the and of a WhatsApp for people as well where I think most bigger businesses as soon as they have your money you're just done and forgotten. I keep in touch with everyone (who wants or needs to) often I'm genuinely interested and happy to do so and have a lot of really good mates I've made through the business.



Edited by fridaypassion on Friday 14th March 21:10

Shnozz

28,374 posts

282 months

bennno said:
Shnozz said:
Black in CR1, started off white in CR2 and then hosed to reveal red.
Never knew there was a cr2 - have to watch that.
Mate - CR2 is the best of the lot! Brilliant film and intro is much more enjoyable - turn up the police car commentary!

There is even a CR3 but wouldn’t recommend it - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_Zone

T_S_M

996 posts

194 months

fridaypassion said:
I'm pretty sure if you look back on this thread about this time I might have said it was about 20k right back then. I think you have done very well to get 19 for it TBH probably a bit of a sign that the green shoots of a bit of a recovery are out there now.

If anyones looking for a bit of a reason my stuff is generally better priced its pretty simple in the main I own the cars I do very very little SOR. In the world of plate glass dealers with suits/aftershave and shiny showrooms its you the customer both buyer and seller that pays for all this stuff. Most of what you'll see in the fancy places is on SOR. The dealer makes some crazy claim to the seller about the money they can get for the car and it will sit there forever. I like to get things in that will move quickly. I would say even with this approach it still only 50% of cars that go in a decent (for me) timescale. Some of the prices out there are absolutely crazy,. I just listed a 3000 mile GT410 Sport for 60. One of the places with the impressive premises...same car listed today with 4 x the mileage for 65k. We all have our own thing that works for us but I don't think any of the other big dealers have the hit rate of buybacks and repeat business I see as if you have rinsed a customer they might make a duff decision when buying but it will dawn on them they have overpaid and it really pisses people off if the feel they have had their leg lifted. I try to strike the right balance I'm not doing this job as a charity its fecking stressful and has to be well compensated for exposing your mental/physical health to it but I think usually we get them out at a good price and that gets me first dibs when it comes to buying back usually and thats been a cornerstone of the business. I'm always on the and of a WhatsApp for people as well where I think most bigger businesses as soon as they have your money you're just done and forgotten. I keep in touch with everyone (who wants or needs to) often I'm genuinely interested and happy to do so and have a lot of really good mates I've made through the business.



Edited by fridaypassion on Friday 14th March 21:10
I hope my comment above about yours being cheaper didn’t come across as negative Jon, it was intended as the complete opposite!

I was looking last night at Exiges for sale, and there’s a blue 350 on eBay at a dealer, been for sale since May last year and had £4k off the price. That’s a long time for a dealer to sit on a car.

I WILL have an Exige in a few months and I WILL be phoning you up about making that happen, due to the reasons you list above.

fridaypassion

9,806 posts

239 months

T_S_M said:
I hope my comment above about yours being cheaper didn’t come across as negative Jon, it was intended as the complete opposite!

I was looking last night at Exiges for sale, and there’s a blue 350 on eBay at a dealer, been for sale since May last year and had £4k off the price. That’s a long time for a dealer to sit on a car.

I WILL have an Exige in a few months and I WILL be phoning you up about making that happen, due to the reasons you list above.
Not at all I'm glad you've noticed! I'll be honest sometimes I do wonder if we shouldn't just stick all the prices up and just wait longer for sales! I like to be busy though!