Abandoned car, taxed but no MOT - no one wants to know!

Abandoned car, taxed but no MOT - no one wants to know!

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MikeLowry

Original Poster:

49 posts

36 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Parking space is at a bit of a premium on the street I live on as most people have drives, and for a while now I have noticed a blue Mercedes coupe which hasn't moved for some months. The tyres are now flat and bits of trim are hanging off. No idea whose it is, the guy whose house it is outside of doesn't drive. Apart from taking up valuable space as well as being an eyesore, it's MOT expired in April but it is still taxed.

I went onto the local council website to report it, where it says cars without an MOT need to be reported to the police. Spoke to the police on LiveChat who said it's not a police concern and that I should report it to the council as an abandoned vehicle rolleyes Tried to report it to the council where I am informed that, as it's taxed, its not considered abandoned! furious

TLDR - Don't bother with an MOT, no one seems to care if you don't have one!

dibblecorse

5,049 posts

136 months

Wednesday 17th July
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MOT not required if you're not driving it, Tax required to keep it on the road, no rules broken, owner can do as he pleases.

PhillipM

5,697 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th July
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As above, I've often worked on my car outside with no MOT - usually because it's run out while I'm waiting on parts - so long as it's taxed it's fine.

independentLee

754 posts

140 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Check on AskMid whether it is insured?

If it isn't then the Police should be interested.

MarJay

2,059 posts

119 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Is it yours? Is it negatively affecting your day to day life?

If no, then forget it. It doesn't sound illegal. Did you wonder why it might be taxed but not MOT'd?

ayman82

809 posts

125 months

Wednesday 17th July
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We have something similar outside our work, an abandoned Blue BMW HN56 JCW.

No Tax, No MOT, not insured, has had police aware stickers, a council removal notice, and still hasn't been removed.

Good luck with yours.

SS2.

11,256 posts

182 months

Wednesday 17th July
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dibblecorse said:
MOT not required if you're not driving it.
It is if the vehicle is kept on a road.

bluezedd

273 posts

26 months

Wednesday 17th July
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SS2. said:
It is if the vehicle is kept on a road.
Yup, a car on the road absolutely needs an MOT. The only exceptions include driving to a pre-booked MOT, MOT exempt vehicles, and driving to get repairs related to the MOT (this repairs thing though isn't something I've done before, so not 100 percent on the requirements for legally driving in that situation).



Edited by bluezedd on Wednesday 17th July 16:03

revvingit

311 posts

24 months

Wednesday 17th July
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dibblecorse said:
MOT not required if you're not driving it, Tax required to keep it on the road, no rules broken, owner can do as he pleases.
Good luck with that defence in court "I wasn't driving it officer"

Unless OP lives on a private road it still needs to be roadworthy (taxed, insured and MOTed). If it's SORNed it needs to be kept on private land.

The police can seize you for not having a MOT. If you've all got your own driveways I'm assuming if it belongs to a neighbour it could easily be parked in the garden/driveway?

coldel

3,183 posts

90 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Sympathise OP, I also live on a road with restricted parking and its a pain in the backside knowing a car has been dumped there. We had it once and it took months to have it dragged away after everything had expired and covered in parking tickets and layers of leaves etc.

MOT wise https://www.gov.uk/report-no-mot it says you can report a car parked on the road with no MOT to the police who can issue up to £1000 fine - so no they cannot leave it parked on the street with no MOT. If the owner of the stbox parked on the street has no intention of MOTing it then they have to take it off road and SORN it.

SS2.

11,256 posts

182 months

Wednesday 17th July
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revvingit said:
The police can seize you for not having a MOT.
Under what power ?

coldel

3,183 posts

90 months

Wednesday 17th July
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SS2. said:
revvingit said:
The police can seize you for not having a MOT.
Under what power ?
I would presume under bullet 2/3 here https://www.gov.uk/stopped-by-police-while-driving...

speedyguy

4,056 posts

147 months

Wednesday 17th July
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coldel said:
SS2. said:
revvingit said:
The police can seize you for not having a MOT.
Under what power ?
I would presume under bullet 2/3 here https://www.gov.uk/stopped-by-police-while-driving...
I suppose it's just cheaper and easier for the police to nowt so that's what they'll do. (That applies to many other bodies as well).

revvingit

311 posts

24 months

Wednesday 17th July
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SS2. said:
Under what power ?
As pointed out above.

[QUOTE]The police can seize a vehicle if they think it’s being used in a way that causes alarm, harassment or distress, for example careless or inconsiderate driving.

They can also seize a vehicle if they think it’s:

being driven by someone who does not have a proper licence or insurance

dangerously, illegally or obstructively parked

broken-down or abandoned
By not having an MOT for car your car shouldn't be on the road, therefore it's abandoned, and if they really want to nitpick could have it down as illegally parked as well (not being roadworthy).

bluezedd

273 posts

26 months

Wednesday 17th July
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revvingit said:
As pointed out above.

[QUOTE]The police can seize a vehicle if they think it’s being used in a way that causes alarm, harassment or distress, for example careless or inconsiderate driving.

They can also seize a vehicle if they think it’s:

being driven by someone who does not have a proper licence or insurance

dangerously, illegally or obstructively parked

broken-down or abandoned

By not having an MOT for car your car shouldn't be on the road, therefore it's abandoned, and if they really want to nitpick could have it down as illegally parked as well (not being roadworthy).
What? It's £100 FPN and 0 points for no MOT.

The above doesn't cover no MOT either.

Edited by bluezedd on Wednesday 17th July 16:51

SS2.

11,256 posts

182 months

Wednesday 17th July
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coldel said:
SS2. said:
revvingit said:
The police can seize you for not having a MOT.
Under what power ?
I would presume under bullet 2/3 here https://www.gov.uk/stopped-by-police-while-driving...
Not simply for no MOT.

SS2.

11,256 posts

182 months

Wednesday 17th July
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revvingit said:
As pointed out above.

The police can seize a vehicle if they think it’s being used in a way that causes alarm, harassment or distress, for example careless or inconsiderate driving.

They can also seize a vehicle if they think it’s:

being driven by someone who does not have a proper licence or insurance

dangerously, illegally or obstructively parked

broken-down or abandoned

By not having an MOT for car your car shouldn't be on the road, therefore it's abandoned, and if they really want to nitpick could have it down as illegally parked as well (not being roadworthy).
Are you making this up as you go along ?

bluezedd

273 posts

26 months

Wednesday 17th July
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SS2. said:
Are you making this up as you go along ?
Looks like it. Just waiting for the having no MOT means you are driving uninsured myth next.

redguy

68 posts

23 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Had this with a car near work.

Taxed, but no MOT - I reported it to the DVLA, residents reported it to the council and DVLA....and so it went on.

Car was parked in the same position for around 6 months. Only then did the owner turn up and drive it away! In the meantime, same story.....nobody wanted to know.

My sympathies OP!

yonex

14,786 posts

112 months

Wednesday 17th July
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https://www.gov.uk/report-no-mot

gov.uk said:
'You can only report a vehicle with no MOT to the police if it’s being used on a road. This includes parked vehicles.'

'If the vehicle is abandoned the police cannot deal with it. You need to report abandoned vehicles to your local council'
There seems to be a lot of people reporting various things on PH lately.