Disagreement with advanced driving instructor :biglaugh:
Discussion
Yes-I watched a video on YouTube some time ago of someone taking, an Evo I think, around a road circuit at Millbrook. It was magnificent: smooth, fast, yet unhurried and really controlled.
No doubt on a fleet training thingy someone would’ve moaned about his fixed input steering or something!
Bit of flexibility needed in the right situation.
He did block change though!!
No doubt on a fleet training thingy someone would’ve moaned about his fixed input steering or something!
Bit of flexibility needed in the right situation.
He did block change though!!
RacerMike said:
Largely tongue in cheek yes, but I do think there’s some truth in it with the older boys who we had. They actually used the phrase ‘it’s in the book so it’s not for us to question’ which I think takes a certain mindset.
I've known police drivers to say things to the effect of, 'when I'm driving the chief constable's car I'll drive it the way the chief constable wants, in my own car it's a bit different.'It's only a problem if they apply the same logic to training the rest of us.
Between cars and bikes I've been to four different police driving schools and none have been so strict in their training to say "always" or "never". All have been pragmatic.
Yes, like most things there are drills to go through and block changing down the gears was drilled on my standard course as way to develop a new habit. The advantage being less inputs to achieve a goal, nothing about mechanical sympathy or the price of pads. I've never been encouraged or trained to block change up the gears, but not discouraged.
Set the speed with the accelerator or brakes, then select the appropriate gear. How you get to that gear will depend on the scenario, vehicle and how it's geared, incline/decline etc etc.
As for the OP's description of slowing towards the lights with out use of the brakes sounds fine ~ as long as he's aware of what's going on behind. I coach on the bikes not to engine break when there's a large speed differential. So dropping from a 40 to a 30 is a good example, 60 to a standstill, not so much. The old school "I never show my brake light because my observation and planning is so good" are wrong. Riding/driving in that way is a great training aid, but nothing more and you end up confusing traffic behind you and take too long to get anywhere. There's very little advanced about it.
Yes, like most things there are drills to go through and block changing down the gears was drilled on my standard course as way to develop a new habit. The advantage being less inputs to achieve a goal, nothing about mechanical sympathy or the price of pads. I've never been encouraged or trained to block change up the gears, but not discouraged.
Set the speed with the accelerator or brakes, then select the appropriate gear. How you get to that gear will depend on the scenario, vehicle and how it's geared, incline/decline etc etc.
As for the OP's description of slowing towards the lights with out use of the brakes sounds fine ~ as long as he's aware of what's going on behind. I coach on the bikes not to engine break when there's a large speed differential. So dropping from a 40 to a 30 is a good example, 60 to a standstill, not so much. The old school "I never show my brake light because my observation and planning is so good" are wrong. Riding/driving in that way is a great training aid, but nothing more and you end up confusing traffic behind you and take too long to get anywhere. There's very little advanced about it.
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