RE: Rimac Nevera unveiled as 258mph sensation

[skint_driver]

Beefmeister said:

I am a huge EV convert, but honestly the prospect of a group test with this Nevera, the Lotus Evija and Tesla Roadster just fills me a whole load of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Who the hell cares about £2m, 2000hp 'grand tourer hypercars' that can only go 340 miles on a charge? That ain't no grand tourer Maté.

The Tesla is ~£180k so you could buy 10 with change for £2m. ~600 mile range too, so with the supercharger network you could probably manage a grand tour or two. What would be interesting about that particular group is just how close Tesla can get to the hypercars. I suspect that the Nevera will beat it on build quality and the Evija may be more rewarding around a track, but the overall winner will be the T thanks to the targa roof and far greater range.

[Beefmeister]

skint_driver said:

The Tesla is ~£180k so you could buy 10 with change for £2m. ~600 mile range too, so with the supercharger network you could probably manage a grand tour or two. What would be interesting about that particular group is just how close Tesla can get to the hypercars. I suspect that the Nevera will beat it on build quality and the Evija may be more rewarding around a track, but the overall winner will be the T thanks to the targa roof and far greater range.

There’s the small point that until now, the Tesla is complete and utter vapourware though. No sign of a production car this year, no sign of that 600 mile range. So frankly it’s all bks.

They release the Roadster as a way of getting millions of dollars in deposits to get themselves out of a financial hole at the time.

I mean they’re still talking about it having fking rocket boosters with the SpaceX package. It’s the delusional ramblings of an egomaniac.

[thegreenhell]

Dave Hedgehog said:

odds are if you can buy a C2 its not going to be your only hypercar, the instant response from an EV can be very addictive in the real world but i guess the biggest thing with the C2 is there will be a time you wont be able to drive the other cars in many parts of the UK because of the emissions

The sorts of places where you might be banned from driving due to ICE emissions are the sorts of places where you categorically cannot (or should not) enjoy that very EV responsiveness and hypercar performance, unless you're the sort of idiot who enjoys speeding around pedestrians.

[jinba-ittai]

0-60 in 1.85 seconds? Sounds unpleasant

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

jinba-ittai said:

0-60 in 1.85 seconds? Sounds unpleasant

I'm not sure of the 0-60mph time but once I went in a 2-seater dragster at Santa Pod and did the standing 1/4 in under 7 seconds. It was thoroughly enjoyable!

[DodgyGeezer]

giveitfish said:

Sounds incredible!

And that, right there, is my biggest issue - sound, or lack thereof.

Pretty enough I guess but quite a generic supercar look - nothing new to see here

[Sandpit Steve]

alock said:

You can watch Matt Watson break the world record
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4orCB71BgY

8.62” @ 171.8mph, on an unprepared strip, that’s utterly bonkers. That’s a second on pretty much any other standard road car, which in drag racing terms is an order of magnitude!

[blue al]

When you can use electricity to get into orbit I will become a believer ....
I will then see the the technological leap mankind has made

Until that time it’s all smoke and mirrors to me (yet without any obvious smoke) the pollution just happens before you drive the car, and after you drive the car when you recharge. a bit like clean nuclear power....

[NGK210]

Something’s wrong with the cabin… Good Lord! Can it be…? Yes! It has buttons ‘n’ knobs on the centre console!

[TheOrangePeril]

Beefmeister said:

I mean they’re still talking about it having fking rocket boosters with the SpaceX package. It’s the delusional ramblings of an egomaniac.

Given that Musk has already managed to commercialise flamethrowers and launch a car into space, why do you assume that he's delusional? It seems pretty evident that if anybody is likely to put rocket boosters on a road car then it'll be him.

[anonymous-user]

blue al said:

When you can use electricity to get into orbit I will become a believer ....
I will then see the the technological leap mankind has made
.

I have to say i find the latest posts by people who for some reason are against EV's increasingly becoming desperate to find something they can hang their bigotted hat on.

it started with

"ohh, they are not very fast"

went via

"ohh but you can only drive them for 10 min before the battery is flat"

and

"There is nowhere to charge them"

and

"mining battery materials kills children"


and now we have reached

"i need to be able to get to space before i consider an EV to be in anyway a valid car"..




Seriously, get a grip people :-)

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

blue al said:

When you can use electricity to get into orbit I will become a believer ....
I will then see the the technological leap mankind has made

Until that time it’s all smoke and mirrors to me (yet without any obvious smoke) the pollution just happens before you drive the car, and after you drive the car when you recharge. a bit like clean nuclear power....

I'd rather that pollution miles from anywhere than in my local town though.

[jbforce10]

florian said:

I know the performance stats of the Rimac are very, very impressive.

But imagine you open your garage on a Sunday morning to go for a drive. Would you pick the Rimac, the Gordon Murray T.50 or a Ferrari 275 GTB ...?

I really cannot fathom what the appeal of those electric hypercard is. Maybe someone here has driven one and can share their view?

Oh, the Ferrari every time.
The T.50 looks too much like a Mk3 MR2 at the front and silly at the back with the fan.

[blue al]

Max_Torque said:

blue al said:

When you can use electricity to get into orbit I will become a believer ....
I will then see the the technological leap mankind has made
.

I have to say i find the latest posts by people who for some reason are against EV's increasingly becoming desperate to find something they can hang their bigotted hat on.

it started with

"ohh, they are not very fast"

went via

"ohh but you can only drive them for 10 min before the battery is flat"

and

"There is nowhere to charge them"

and

"mining battery materials kills children"

and now we have reached

"i need to be able to get to space before i consider an EV to be in anyway a valid car"..

Seriously, get a grip people :-)

I’m glad it amused someone
I enjoyed the rimac promo video on Dave a few weeks back, and its good to see rapid progress being made.

But I’m not a buyer at the 2 million price point so my views are already somewhat irrelevant, and I’m not expecting a car to fly into space. I believe you are being deliberately disingenuous, but to move the debate along in a more meaningful manner, It’s all about power density as others have already alluded to, my apologies if my remarks have offended, but the overall point is still valid. Electrical propulsion moves to pollution out of sight, This becomes far harder to see if your head is buried in the sand.

[deadscoob]

Max_Torque said:

blue al said:

When you can use electricity to get into orbit I will become a believer ....
I will then see the the technological leap mankind has made
.

I have to say i find the latest posts by people who for some reason are against EV's increasingly becoming desperate to find something they can hang their bigotted hat on.

it started with

"ohh, they are not very fast"

went via

"ohh but you can only drive them for 10 min before the battery is flat"

and

"There is nowhere to charge them"

and

"mining battery materials kills children"


and now we have reached

"i need to be able to get to space before i consider an EV to be in anyway a valid car"..




Seriously, get a grip people :-)

Because it exchanges one environmental issue with another. Because not one country has come up with a practical and realistic proposal for infrastructure, let alone the inlife changes required to it. Because everything about the overall benefits is theoretical. ICE comparisons are based on older less efficient vehicles and the environmental and impacts and sustainability of EVs are ignored.


7 years time the governments will be U turning and Porsche will be the biggest car maker in the world with sole control of synthetic fuel. Maybe

[DodgyGeezer]

Max_Torque said:

I have to say i find the latest posts by people who for some reason are against EV's increasingly becoming desperate to find something they can hang their bigotted hat on.

it started with

"ohh, they are not very fast"

went via

"ohh but you can only drive them for 10 min before the battery is flat"

and

"There is nowhere to charge them"

and

"mining battery materials kills children"


and now we have reached

"i need to be able to get to space before i consider an EV to be in anyway a valid car"..




Seriously, get a grip people :-)

good progress has been made no doubt - hopefully there is more to come. However until such time as you can go 500/600 miles and have a 5 minute recharge/refuel time then I'll pass

[Beefmeister]

TheOrangePeril said:

Beefmeister said:

I mean they’re still talking about it having fking rocket boosters with the SpaceX package. It’s the delusional ramblings of an egomaniac.

Given that Musk has already managed to commercialise flamethrowers and launch a car into space, why do you assume that he's delusional? It seems pretty evident that if anybody is likely to put rocket boosters on a road car then it'll be him.

Are you serious? Just think it through. Rockets. On a road car. Keep thinking.

If you still think it's going to happen (on a road legal car) - i have some magic beans you might be interested in.....



Oh and also - you could buy flamethrowers before Musk. And he sent the shell of a car into space - not a car. Which was very cool, but a publicity stunt.

Don't get me wrong, I think Musk is one of the most influential people of the millennium. I met him a few years ago and it was a bucket list ticked, what he's done with Tesla and SpaceX is nothing short of revolutionary. And Tesla cars are still, years after launch, a long way ahead of the competition in terms of drivetrain efficiency and charging infrastructure.

But the Cybertruck and Roadster are pure, unadulterated bullst fodder for morons.

Edited by Beefmeister on Tuesday 1st June 18:45

[998420]

Nevera...Spanish for fridge.. or does he think that = cool ?

A risky call for an electric car that is often, and imo correctly, labelled 'white goods'


Amazing product from a tiny company in Croatia, the guy is clearly a genius...selling tech to multinationals with hundreds of staff

[Flat-Patch]

0-60 means nothing, unless you're at a drag strip! How fast is to round the Nürburgring, or 5 wet laps of Silverstone? I'll only start gripping the edge of my seat, when an EV shines on the twisty stuff. As for now my sofa arms are thinning, based on a road-legal Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series, lapping Germans finest in 6:43:62.

[whp1983]

Max_Torque said:

Awaits the inevitable "one trick pony" comments!


BTW, it's worth noting, that a 340 mile range of 120 kWh of battery, is, in EV terms pretty terrible, but is actually equivalent to a Petrol car doing 122mpg!

So, we have a car that is the quickest production road car ever (yet) built, but it will do 122 mpg when driven normally. This is why EVs are the future and have now moved the goal posts so far that ICE's are no longer even playing the same game, let alone in the same league.......

All rather depends on what game you want to be playing in.... it is mighty impressive....as is a microwave, a fridge and many other things. They have all the depth of a teaspoon though. I want the sounds smells and feel of ICE end of.
A mighty achievement though and it does seem they are the future for mass dull transport.