Alpine A110 owners

Alpine A110 owners

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Venisonpie

1,142 posts

42 months

Tuesday 27th October
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Didzz said:
Some more pictures. Can't remember who was going for a black tulip.





I'm looking forward to some of these landing with dealers, I suspect it will become a regular pastime inspecting them for inspiration for a future order.

footsoldier

1,821 posts

152 months

Tuesday 27th October
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Didzz said:
Some more pictures. Can't remember who was going for a black tulip
Me...thanks
It does look very good in the bright colours too, need to remind myself I want something more low key!

bcr5784

5,062 posts

105 months

Tuesday 27th October
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Fudgie01 said:
Shame these colours are so expensive, but that orange S does look cool

Edited by Fudgie01 on Monday 26th October 22:42
Given the price I am surprized that so many seem to be going for them - even 1800 for Alpine Blue seems a lot. But as you say some do look very nice.

jcuthell

159 posts

67 months

Tuesday 27th October
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footsoldier said:
Didzz said:
Some more pictures. Can't remember who was going for a black tulip
Me...thanks
It does look very good in the bright colours too, need to remind myself I want something more low key!
Had in my mind you ordered orange. That black tulip looks great!

iKenndac

31 posts

174 months

Sunday 1st November
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Does anyone have experience with the electronic limiters on these things?

A couple of months ago on a particularly quiet stretch of autobahn I let 'er rip, and chickened out at 255km/h indicated (253km/h according to the dashcam, which is driven by GPS). The car felt like it still had plenty to give!

Did I happen to let go of the throttle just before the limiter would have kicked in? The car's specs say it's limited to 250km/h.


BarryGibb

233 posts

107 months

Monday 2nd November
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iKenndac said:
Does anyone have experience with the electronic limiters on these things?

A couple of months ago on a particularly quiet stretch of autobahn I let 'er rip, and chickened out at 255km/h indicated (253km/h according to the dashcam, which is driven by GPS). The car felt like it still had plenty to give!

Did I happen to let go of the throttle just before the limiter would have kicked in? The car's specs say it's limited to 250km/h.

I will test it next time I am here smile

https://jalopnik.com/this-dead-end-highway-in-germ...

One thing I noticed - when I drive at WOT in the upper gears, the torque meter can sometimes show >320NM for a few seconds. Wonder how it is monitoring that. confused

bcr5784

5,062 posts

105 months

Monday 2nd November
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BarryGibb said:
One thing I noticed - when I drive at WOT in the upper gears, the torque meter can sometimes show >320NM for a few seconds. Wonder how it is monitoring that. confused
All the cars seem to dyno more than 320nm and 250ps. On the other hand the S seems to be a bit shy of its 292ps and hence the difference in performance is smaller than you might expect. Not sure quite how much effect use of 99octane fuel has - but mine seemed to go quite a bit better when I switched back to 99 after a period of enforced 95 use.

Venisonpie

1,142 posts

42 months

Monday 2nd November
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bcr5784 said:
All the cars seem to dyno more than 320nm and 250ps. On the other hand the S seems to be a bit shy of its 292ps and hence the difference in performance is smaller than you might expect. Not sure quite how much effect use of 99octane fuel has - but mine seemed to go quite a bit better when I switched back to 99 after a period of enforced 95 use.
I did wonder about the output, the car does feel surprisingly spritely even allowing for the low weight. My most recent reference point is an SC Elise with 217bhp pushing 930kgs vs 248bhp pushing circa 1100kgs.
So 233bhp/ton vs 225bhp/ton yet the Alpine feels much quicker both through the gears as you would expect but in gear and especially at higher speeds.

bcr5784

5,062 posts

105 months

Monday 2nd November
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Venisonpie said:
I did wonder about the output, the car does feel surprisingly spritely even allowing for the low weight. My most recent reference point is an SC Elise with 217bhp pushing 930kgs vs 248bhp pushing circa 1100kgs.
So 233bhp/ton vs 225bhp/ton yet the Alpine feels much quicker both through the gears as you would expect but in gear and especially at higher speeds.
Yes I found a big difference - the A110 feels an altogether quicker car than the S220 I drove. I couldn't find a decent comparison with an S220 - but if you look at this https://zeperfs.com/en/duel6621-6159.htm the base A110 sees off the Cup 250 comprehensively, both in gear and through the gears.

iKenndac

31 posts

174 months

Monday 2nd November
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BarryGibb said:
The torque meter can sometimes show >320NM for a few seconds. Wonder how it is monitoring that. confused
It's highly likely that both the power and torque figures are just calculated from things like RPM, boost pressure, and simulated load, or maybe even just a flat lookup table (this fast + this gear + this throttle = this power/torque). Depending on your view of things, this makes those readouts either an educated calculation, or complete fiction.

Fun fact: The oil pressure gauge on the mk. 3 (NC) Mazda MX-5 is simulated in this manner, based only on RPM and engine temperature — the actual oil pressure sensor was a simple on/off affair. This made lots of people very angry.

Mannginger

8,074 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd November
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iKenndac said:
It's highly likely that both the power and torque figures are just calculated from things like RPM, boost pressure, and simulated load, or maybe even just a flat lookup table (this fast + this gear + this throttle = this power/torque). Depending on your view of things, this makes those readouts either an educated calculation, or complete fiction.

Fun fact: The oil pressure gauge on the mk. 3 (NC) Mazda MX-5 is simulated in this manner, based only on RPM and engine temperature — the actual oil pressure sensor was a simple on/off affair. This made lots of people very angry.
Including me when my bottom end went with not a glimmer of a warning and the oil levels regularly checked frown Thankfully Mazda eventually coughed up for it but not without a bit of resistance!

iKenndac

31 posts

174 months

Monday 2nd November
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Mannginger said:
Including me when my bottom end went with not a glimmer of a warning and the oil levels regularly checked frown Thankfully Mazda eventually coughed up for it but not without a bit of resistance!
I didn't get worked up about it like a bunch of people on forums did (but, you know… forums). However, it was a silly design. The failure state was far too subtle — if you did lose oil pressure, your oil "pressure" needle would move half a centimetre below where it normally sits for trundling around, and the chances of you noticing in time were basically nonexistent.

For something as catastrophic as losing oil pressure that fast, you really need a very large bright red flashing light and a "STOP THE CAR RIGHT NOW" beeper.

Miserablegit

1,696 posts

69 months

Tuesday 3rd November
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iKenndac said:
Does anyone have experience with the electronic limiters on these things?

A couple of months ago on a particularly quiet stretch of autobahn I let 'er rip, and chickened out at 255km/h indicated (253km/h according to the dashcam, which is driven by GPS). The car felt like it still had plenty to give!

Did I happen to let go of the throttle just before the limiter would have kicked in? The car's specs say it's limited to 250km/h.

beer
for the thorough and scientific test of Vmax for the A110. Are you the first person to do so?



bcr5784

5,062 posts

105 months

Tuesday 3rd November
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Miserablegit said:
beer
for the thorough and scientific test of Vmax for the A110. Are you the first person to do so?
I have a suspicion that they "limited" it to 155 to disguise the fact that, because of the gearing, it wouldn't actually go much faster. Likewise the gearing probably limits the A110S. 155 is plenty fast enough for me - I doubt I'll max the car out. It would be interesting to know how stable the car is at that speed.

Miserablegit

1,696 posts

69 months

Tuesday 3rd November
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Agreed- in a car like this I’d swap top speed for acceleration any day of the week.

BarryGibb

233 posts

107 months

Tuesday 3rd November
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A great day out at Brands today on the GP circuit. First time I've taken the car on track so I didn't push very hard but it was still fun. I liked the way the car moved around so not sure I'd want to tie it down just yet - I might change my mind in the future!!

There was another Alpine there but didn't have the chance to talk to them.

Venisonpie

1,142 posts

42 months

Tuesday 3rd November
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BarryGibb said:
A great day out at Brands today on the GP circuit. First time I've taken the car on track so I didn't push very hard but it was still fun. I liked the way the car moved around so not sure I'd want to tie it down just yet - I might change my mind in the future!!

There was another Alpine there but didn't have the chance to talk to them.
Blimey, that's impressive for a new car. Which track day co was it?

BarryGibb

233 posts

107 months

Tuesday 3rd November
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Venisonpie said:
BarryGibb said:
A great day out at Brands today on the GP circuit. First time I've taken the car on track so I didn't push very hard but it was still fun. I liked the way the car moved around so not sure I'd want to tie it down just yet - I might change my mind in the future!!

There was another Alpine there but didn't have the chance to talk to them.
Blimey, that's impressive for a new car. Which track day co was it?
MSV

bcr5784

5,062 posts

105 months

Tuesday 3rd November
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BarryGibb said:
A great day out at Brands today on the GP circuit. First time I've taken the car on track so I didn't push very hard but it was still fun. I liked the way the car moved around so not sure I'd want to tie it down just yet - I might change my mind in the future!!
If you are after lap times I'm sure it be would better if it was more "tied down". If you just want fun even on track it still takes some beating.

squirdan

693 posts

107 months

Thursday 5th November
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was anyone keeping an eye on the car that just sold on Collecting Cars?

Grey Legend with 1000 miles. £40k plus 6pc buyers premium

seemed v cheap to me...what am I missing? The retro wheels and brown leather a bit specialist?

thinking of getting one. Completely different but similar conceptually to my old R26R. French / different / interesting / breathes with the road