Advice on Bentley Arnage Red Label tyres please

Advice on Bentley Arnage Red Label tyres please

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Champagne Charlie

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13 posts

4 months

Saturday 20th June
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Thank you for that very interesting information.

I agree with you from what I have read elsewhere. The problem that I have at present I can only find the Bridgestone tyre in W rated 106 format.

On the label Inside my glovebox it does give 255/50X18 Y but also says that W can be used. I don't want to run foul of dodgy Insurance companies looking to avoid claims but that information is direct from Bentley. I would prefer Y's but may go with W's.

Could you tell me where you have seen the Bridgestone tyre in a Y rating please?

Kind regards
Paul


alabbasi

1,120 posts

43 months

Saturday 20th June
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Champagne Charlie said:
On the label Inside my glovebox it does give 255/50X18 Y but also says that W can be used. I don't want to run foul of dodgy Insurance companies looking to avoid claims but that information is direct from Bentley. I would prefer Y's but may go with W's.
It sounds like your effort would be better spent finding a reputable insurance company

Wdl45

3 posts

2 months

Saturday 20th June
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https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre-details/bridgestone-...

Says here that it is Y rated. I would have thought W would be fine in any event because the Red Labels have 155mph speed limiters. You probably could go with the Ws and if concerned contact your insurers to confirm it is fine with them.

Champagne Charlie

Original Poster:

13 posts

4 months

Saturday 20th June
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alabbasi said:
It sounds like your effort would be better spent finding a reputable insurance company
There is a huge misconception about speed ratings. Any insurance company will happily accept payment but will look for an out including whoever you are insured with.

I would never dream of fitting a tyre rated at below the producer recommendation as it automatically invalidates any insurance cover.

The only reason why I would consider a W rated tyre is because the wording on my car does say that it is allowable. I will certainly check with the insurance company however.

How fast you were travelling makes absolutely no difference to if a claim will be met or not. Fact. If you have a brand new tyre on your car by even a reputable manufacturer like Michelin if the manufacturer of the car recommends a Y and you have a W rated tyre they WILL refuse any claim no matter how caused if you are at fault. It is the first ting checked by Insurance assessors. .



dhutch

6,549 posts

153 months

Sunday 21st June
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Do you have first hand experience of insurance companies declining to pay out due to a discrepancy in speed rating?

Champagne Charlie

Original Poster:

13 posts

4 months

Sunday 21st June
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No, I have no personal experience of a Insurance company refusing such a claim but...……….You never run at 186mph so stick on some V rated tyres. The Insurance company will smile and cash your cheques but wait until you run into the back of a new Mercedes causing injuries to the driver.

Are you confident that they will pay out 100,000 Pounds plus or do you think they will send you a polite letter saying that regretfully...……..

It's a lot cheaper.

Don't believe me; just ask your Insurance company. Have you ever been asked for a copy of your driving licence by an Insurance company? No? Wait until you have an accident. Why? because at that stage they start looking for errors. Had a speeding conviction 6 years ago that you failed to reveal? Sorry...……….


Monkrover

7 posts

4 months

Friday 26th June
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I'm late to the party here.
I have a recently acquired 2000 Arnage Red Label which runs on 255/50 R18 102Y tyres and is currently shod with the factory Pirelli tyres.

I'm not a huge fan of Pirellis and so have been looking around for a comparable tyre. Given the Pirellis are anything around £400 each, I have identified the correct specification Bridgestones, actually 106Y instead of 102Y, but they only available on the continent so I may have to get some shipped in.

I like Bridgestone tyres but they are not the longest lasting. However at just over £150 per tyre I'm not really that bothered..

I'll be changing them in the next few months so will report back on what I finally decided and how they fare.

Champagne Charlie

Original Poster:

13 posts

4 months

Friday 26th June
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Monkrover said:
I'm late to the party here.
I have a recently acquired 2000 Arnage Red Label which runs on 255/50 R18 102Y tyres and is currently shod with the factory Pirelli tyres.

I'm not a huge fan of Pirellis and so have been looking around for a comparable tyre. Given the Pirellis are anything around £400 each, I have identified the correct specification Bridgestones, actually 106Y instead of 102Y, but they only available on the continent so I may have to get some shipped in.

I like Bridgestone tyres but they are not the longest lasting. However at just over £150 per tyre I'm not really that bothered..

I'll be changing them in the next few months so will report back on what I finally decided and how they fare.
Once you have them fitted do please let me know how they feel. I think they have to sound a better option over the Pirellis. Good luck with the car. I absolutely love mine. When my local French garage test drove it (he drives VERY quickly) he came back with a huge grin on his face and said it was like a "raz de marée en roues" (a tidal wave on wheels).

Wdl45

3 posts

2 months

Wednesday 1st July
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Champagne Charlie said:
Monkrover said:
I'm late to the party here.
I have a recently acquired 2000 Arnage Red Label which runs on 255/50 R18 102Y tyres and is currently shod with the factory Pirelli tyres.

I'm not a huge fan of Pirellis and so have been looking around for a comparable tyre. Given the Pirellis are anything around £400 each, I have identified the correct specification Bridgestones, actually 106Y instead of 102Y, but they only available on the continent so I may have to get some shipped in.

I like Bridgestone tyres but they are not the longest lasting. However at just over £150 per tyre I'm not really that bothered..

I'll be changing them in the next few months so will report back on what I finally decided and how they fare.
Once you have them fitted do please let me know how they feel. I think they have to sound a better option over the Pirellis. Good luck with the car. I absolutely love mine. When my local French garage test drove it (he drives VERY quickly) he came back with a huge grin on his face and said it was like a "raz de marée en roues" (a tidal wave on wheels).
Further to the above posts and my own earlier post, I’ve just had the Bridgestone T005 fitted to my Red Label.

First, I can confirm that they are indeed Y rated, so they are the correct speed rating.

Secondly, I am initially impressed with them. Handling and braking is undoubtedly sharper. They are slightly rougher over bumps and definitely are louder. They have that characteristic hollow sound of a reinforced tyre over certain pavements (similar to the Conti PC6s on my XK).

Personally, I am happy with them, since the reduction in refinement is compensated by the better dynamic abilities and much lower price. Having said that, time will tell whether they are durable (which will go to the price differential) and whether I in fact am happy with the loss in refinement over the long term.

I would be very interested in any other views!

Monkrover

7 posts

4 months

Thursday 9th July
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I'll be swapping tyres over on my 2000 Arnage in the not too distant future (August). I'm not a big fan of Pirelli's only from a cost/performance viewpoint and have found Bridgestone Turanza T005s of the right size and load. The only downside is I suspect they are designed for 4x4 use so was wondering about how they might perform on the Arnage? They have better ratings than the Pirelli (AA as opposed to AB) and are less than half the price (which is not particularly a factor, but I guarantee that the Pirellis are not more than twice the tyre...