The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

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Lord Marylebone

7,960 posts

118 months

Monday 11th February
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aeropilot said:
How do you know he was a Police Officer?
Many FLO's are civilian staff, but that's the public all over isn't it, never think about things like that, thick as mince and arrogant with it......whistle
Sorry, my mistake.

I will rephrase how I refer to him:

‘Firearms Enquiry officer’.

Either way, an employee of the Police.

smartypants

38,415 posts

107 months

Tuesday 12th February
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And very likely former traffic smile


urquattroGus

973 posts

128 months

Tuesday 12th February
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I've always found them to be friendly and quite relaxed.

Sound like you were unlucky!!

I can't stand those police jobsworth types, they make you feel guilty despite having done nothing wrong. What is wrong with them!!

thismonkeyhere

8,643 posts

169 months

Tuesday 12th February
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What criteria do they have for visiting at renewal etc?

I had a visit when I moved to the county - very quick and informal - and nothing since, two renewals and one house move (new house, same town) later.

I expect they might have a risk register with some higher priority individuals, but is there also a random check element to it?

red_slr

7,851 posts

127 months

Tuesday 12th February
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The reason most FEOs are nice as pie is because its a cushty job. They have retired from the job and walked back into another £25k job on top of their police pension. Most of them will just potter about and tick the boxes. They might say its a stressful job but its all BS they much prefer a nice office and drinking tea all day to dealing with domestics and sudden deaths at 3am on a Tuesday in December.

This guy sounds like a plank and a liability. I would be having a word on the QT with PSD..


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Brads67

1,149 posts

36 months

Tuesday 12th February
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I had a dick like that turn up at my place once. After 4 minutes I put him out the house. Man was an imbecile.
Dealt with someone else with some actual brains instead.

You don't have to put up with their bullst you know.?

Ziplobb

420 posts

222 months

Tuesday 12th February
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I had an interesting conversation with our ex FEO recently who was a top bloke and I have been dealing with him for 13 years( until his final retirement ) or so as FAC/SGC/RFD. he loved the job - he had been a copper for just over 30 years and retired to land a part time FEO job. He said it made such a change to deal with honest,polite, law abiding people over a cup or tea and a bit of cakes in comparison to 30 years of dealing with crooks, scum and all the other dross that goes with it.

andyb28

435 posts

56 months

Wednesday 13th February
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Brads67 said:
I had a dick like that turn up at my place once. After 4 minutes I put him out the house. Man was an imbecile.
Dealt with someone else with some actual brains instead.

You don't have to put up with their bullst you know.?
I guess the worry we all have is losing your licence.

Lord Marylebone

7,960 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th February
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andyb28 said:
Brads67 said:
I had a dick like that turn up at my place once. After 4 minutes I put him out the house. Man was an imbecile.
Dealt with someone else with some actual brains instead.

You don't have to put up with their bullst you know.?
I guess the worry we all have is losing your licence.
Which is exactly how I felt.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever, legal or otherwise, why my certificate wouldn’t have been renewed.

But you just worry that if you vocally express your displeasure then it may jeopardise your chances.

It was exactly like when you have the extremely occasional yet unfortunate experience of meeting a traffic officer. Sometimes they are aggressive, shouty, rude and if you are really lucky, ignorant of certain aspects of the law.

But you feel that if you try to argue your case with them, they will find something... anything.. to stitch you up with.

As I said, this guy didn’t even introduce himself or tell me his name. I still have no idea who he was. It was just bizarre.

The old FEO was such a nice guy and really happy in his work.

red_slr

7,851 posts

127 months

Wednesday 13th February
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My FEO always has their ID round their neck.

They have no power of entry you are inviting them in, any decent cop will know to at least introduce themselves for the first time at the front door when in plain clothes / civ etc. (GOWISELY!)

I would say you met one of the very few bad ones.

My advice, bite your tongue this time but be ready next time. In 5 years he might (probably will) be gone.

Next time you have a visit have your phone in your pocket and record the conversation. Its your house nothing to stop you.

I would also read up on firearms laws so you know your rights and what you should be doing down to the letter.

Lord Marylebone

7,960 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th February
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red_slr said:
My FEO always has their ID round their neck.

They have no power of entry you are inviting them in, any decent cop will know to at least introduce themselves for the first time at the front door when in plain clothes / civ etc. (GOWISELY!)

I would say you met one of the very few bad ones.

My advice, bite your tongue this time but be ready next time. In 5 years he might (probably will) be gone.

Next time you have a visit have your phone in your pocket and record the conversation. Its your house nothing to stop you.

I would also read up on firearms laws so you know your rights and what you should be doing down to the letter.
Thanks for that. Some good points.

Hopefully he won’t be there in 5 years time when my next renewal is due!

Saddle bum

4,197 posts

157 months

Wednesday 13th February
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Someone was right to suggest FEOs are either very good or abysmal.

It is essential to bone up on the Law as some of the things they come out with are total crap.

One asked me what experience I had with firearms. I explained I had worked with firearms and big ordnance all my career. He responded by saying that perhaps by this stage I'd had enough. He, on the other hand, was a one time dog handler.

I had got them all out for his inspection. All the bolts were open as per normal. He said that was unnecessary as he assumed I knew what I was doing. I replied that you never assume a firearm is clear until you have proved it. The visit did not last long.

FurtiveFreddy

7,772 posts

175 months

Wednesday 13th February
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One of mine asked if I reloaded .22 rimfire.

(I know it's possible, but he certainly didn't)

smack

9,245 posts

129 months

Wednesday 13th February
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FurtiveFreddy said:
One of mine asked if I reloaded .22 rimfire.

(I know it's possible, but he certainly didn't)
Metering the powder consistently that small is rather tricky wink

Jem0911

4,404 posts

139 months

Thursday 14th February
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Saddle bum said:
Someone was right to suggest FEOs are either very good or abysmal.

It is essential to bone up on the Law as some of the things they come out with are total crap.

One asked me what experience I had with firearms. I explained I had worked with firearms and big ordnance all my career. He responded by saying that perhaps by this stage I'd had enough. He, on the other hand, was a one time dog handler.

I had got them all out for his inspection. All the bolts were open as per normal. He said that was unnecessary as he assumed I knew what I was doing. I replied that you never assume a firearm is clear until you have proved it. The visit did not last long.
A pal of Mine whilst going through the interview for a new certificate was asked what different loads he should use for differing quarry
When he should use steel verses lead and even what his opinion was on plastic verses fibre wad was!

creampuff

6,467 posts

81 months

aeropilot said:
A friend of a mate who lives in the USA, uses his 30-06 on squirrels........in his words, "because I can"

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Hahahahaha! Taste the freedom!

Don1

13,042 posts

146 months

Glorious day shooting today. Club championships, might have got some silverware... biggrin

phib

3,915 posts

197 months

Has anyone tried a Benelli 828u ?

Thinking about something light with low recoil ?

Phib

200Plus Club

5,093 posts

216 months

Just looked and my certificates are up for renewal around December this year. Any advice as to when to reapply (South Yorkshire police)?

aeropilot

17,049 posts

165 months

phib said:
Has anyone tried a Benelli 828u ?

Thinking about something light with low recoil ?
I have.

I liked it..... a lot.

The only thing that put me off at the time was that the unique design meant that any issues and they have to be sent to Benelli for any work, not something that your local shotgun shop can do.
This was when they first came out though a few years ago, and as time goes by, and they get more understood, that might change.
2 and bit years on from trying them a couple of times (my local RFD had a test gun that I borrowed on several occasions at the time) I happily buy one as a 2nd gun to my Browning 725, and I have first refusal on any used 828U that my dealer takes in on a trade.