The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
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Tony tried his best but sadly wasn't meant to be.Was surprised how he looked really flat and tired after 5 rounds as up to that point he had not absorbed much punishment .I feel the weight making probably didn't help as to me he did look a bit drained in the ring(we all know the effect it had on Roy Jones going up to heavy then dropping down) also surprised Tony hardly used his left hook especially when he was being backed up to the ropes.Now he can sign off a good career achieving more than he ever thought possible.
Enjoyed the main fight and the bill in general.
Usyk looked liked he had a few gears still to go through to me and I suspect knew he had the measure of Bellew..... who did all he could so fair play to him for that. Main thing is he got home safely to his family
Be interesting to see how he gets on with the heavyweights. If his chin holds up he will give AJ a real challenge as his ring movement will drain him.
Good days for boxing!
Usyk looked liked he had a few gears still to go through to me and I suspect knew he had the measure of Bellew..... who did all he could so fair play to him for that. Main thing is he got home safely to his family
Be interesting to see how he gets on with the heavyweights. If his chin holds up he will give AJ a real challenge as his ring movement will drain him.
Good days for boxing!
Yes, where next for Usyk? I hope he moves up carefully to heavyweight he should take at least a year to put another useful 20 pounds on his frame.
Jumping into taking on the big men would be a mistake I feel. Let the top 5 sort themselves out with their various match ups and then make a challenge.
Jumping into taking on the big men would be a mistake I feel. Let the top 5 sort themselves out with their various match ups and then make a challenge.
272BHP said:
Yes, where next for Usyk? I hope he moves up carefully to heavyweight he should take at least a year to put another useful 20 pounds on his frame.
Jumping into taking on the big men would be a mistake I feel. Let the top 5 sort themselves out with their various match ups and then make a challenge.
Usyk turns 32 in Jan, I'd get cracking if I were him. I wouldn't want to be a small and old HW taking on the big men. Jumping into taking on the big men would be a mistake I feel. Let the top 5 sort themselves out with their various match ups and then make a challenge.
Who is advising scotty cardle?
It seems it was all about the pay day
He was in way over his head and is starting to sound punchy to me
He's british level at best and after recent performances needs to consider his future as he's taking too much punishment and becoming the hired punch bag
It seems it was all about the pay day
He was in way over his head and is starting to sound punchy to me
He's british level at best and after recent performances needs to consider his future as he's taking too much punishment and becoming the hired punch bag
Interesting interview with Tyson Fury. Shines a different light on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZtibrPo0g
Birkin1932 said:
Who is advising scotty cardle?
It seems it was all about the pay day
He was in way over his head and is starting to sound punchy to me
He's british level at best and after recent performances needs to consider his future as he's taking too much punishment and becoming the hired punch bag
Agreed, I'm not mad keen on Ricky Burns extending his career either, even if he is back winning, I guess he's got Frank Warren to thank for that, a one time top level world challenger, he should have been comfortable enough to retire years ago, maybe he's playing on for another shot but I'd rather not see it.It seems it was all about the pay day
He was in way over his head and is starting to sound punchy to me
He's british level at best and after recent performances needs to consider his future as he's taking too much punishment and becoming the hired punch bag
Fittster said:
Usyk turns 32 in Jan, I'd get cracking if I were him. I wouldn't want to be a small and old HW taking on the big men.
35 is not particularly old for heavyweights. So enough time to have a year to prepare then 2 years to have 3 big PPV fights before retirement.One thing Bellew has revealed is that Usyk is not particularly difficult to hit. Tony couldn't hurt him but it would be a different story with Wilder or Joshua.
272BHP said:
Fittster said:
Usyk turns 32 in Jan, I'd get cracking if I were him. I wouldn't want to be a small and old HW taking on the big men.
35 is not particularly old for heavyweights. So enough time to have a year to prepare then 2 years to have 3 big PPV fights before retirement.One thing Bellew has revealed is that Usyk is not particularly difficult to hit. Tony couldn't hurt him but it would be a different story with Wilder or Joshua.
However he clearly felt Tony was tiring and was getting a bit careless. I think perhaps the drop down in weight didn't help on the punch resistance, but that's not an excuse as Usyk is a class operator and was very careful in there and rightfully so.
Thoroughly enjoyed the whole card btw.
Kelly was like a whirlwind, not really much we can learn there, but he's great to watch and will be a ppv fighter soon no doubt.
Allen v that Argentinian dude was f
king brilliant! The Argie had great hand speed and was pretty decent, but Allen is tough and just got over the line in the end. Who'd have thought Allen would win a fight due to being fitter 
what a tear up though!Always liked Burns, nice to see him get a good win and but jesus, Cardle got smashed there (Weight didn't help with Burns looking huge).
That filler fight with the Ukranian and Dutch dude was a cracking 4 rounder too.
Crolla fight was good.
Blimey, what a night.....I sat engrossed all evening.
dirty boy said:
Allen v that Argentinian dude was fking brilliant! The Argie had great hand speed and was pretty decent, but Allen is tough and just got over the line in the end. Who'd have thought Allen would win a fight due to being fitter what a tear up though!
Allen is so frustrating and a worry. He talked afterwards about not taking his opponent seriously and had very little sparring. king brilliant! The Argie had great hand speed and was pretty decent, but Allen is tough and just got over the line in the end. Who'd have thought Allen would win a fight due to being fitter what a tear up though! He is very tough but taking too many punches.
Unless he has a proper camp, gets a new trainer, sorts his fitness out, he is going just going to be another punchbag.
i'm watching with interest what usyk does next...i don't think he is worrying at all about the size of the bigguns as his WBS experience proves he can hang with them..i know that was few years ago now but his ring generalship against the likes of nistor and joyce showed that their size doesn't daunt him.....
but someone like medzhidov doesn't bang as hard as joshua or wilder!!
but someone like medzhidov doesn't bang as hard as joshua or wilder!!
Purso said:
@tauscaneer, what were your thoughts on the fight mate? Be interested especially as you seem to have a relationship with the fighters in liverpool.
honestly, that's not surprised me...i thought maybe it would go to points but that stoppage was timed beautifully. tony boxed the fight of his life but i always felt usyk was allowing him to do things to read him..almost like he had a few more gears to go through if needed early but was more intent on stalking him and laying traps for later...which proved to be the case.I felt the biggest drain on tonys energy was the concentration he had to implement to deliver the performance he did in the early rounds as he did seem to get really tired early on the fight and the punch output didnt seem to be that high to be a factor. I guess part of it for tony was a case of experience and youth going in opposing directions.
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