Electric bicycles - who buys them?

Electric bicycles - who buys them?

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superlightr

10,217 posts

210 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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yellowjack said:
P700DEE said:
From the only owner of one I have met , reason for purchase was drink drive ban!!
I met three more "mature" gentlemen in Peaslake village. Their combined age was "more than 210 years" and all three were on electric assist MTBs. In their own words, they were "well past it" if they had to pedal their way up to get to the downs. But with pedal assist, they were able to keep on riding "well into their 70s". Still getting out, still getting some exercise,and still keeping their minds sharp dodging trees and roots in the Surrey Hills.

Oh, and the only other e-bike rider I've spoken to was one that flew past me up a hill in Essex. He was dressed in pin-stripe suit, woolen full length coat, and shiny leather shoes, with a large briefcase strapped to the rear rack. I was in full Lycra, slogging myself into a puddle of sweat. I soon caught him on the downhill, and the subsequent flat section. He was a "serious cyclist" too, but just wanted to commute into London in 'normal' work clothes without getting himself sweaty. It was working too.

There are so many different reasons to own and ride an electric bike...
Its excellent. Takes the pain of the hills away and enjoy the downhills. Painful knees which were ok for road but not for the hills on the MTB hence why I bought a MTB one a year ago. Fantastic - its put the fun back into MTBing for me.



DonkeyApple

34,957 posts

116 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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giantdefy said:
daddy cool said:
I'll get an electric bike when I'm too infirm to ride a standard one...
Yep, but at 65 I may well have got there. Thinking of converting my winter hack to electric, lot cheaper at ~£6/700
There is an old boy round here who uses one. He must be nudging towards 80 and he zooms up and down the hills at a good pace. They seem brilliant for that sort of use. Or if you’re in a particularly hilly area.

DonkeyApple

34,957 posts

116 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Hoofy said:
C70R said:
yellowjack said:
Hoofy said:
I'd get one to troll Wiggins Wannabes around Richmond Park. Just set it to 1mph faster and watch them try to overtake to prove a point (whatever the point is?). biggrin
Clue: At that level of assistance, your 'leccy' bike will likely run out of juice before some "Wiggins Wannabe's" legs do...

...and that's before you get to the issue of it being illegal to have electrical assistance that operates above <either 15 mph or 20 mph, I can't recall, but it's definitely a lot lower speed than a decent cyclist can maintain around Richmond Park > so you'd need to de-restrict the motor, or build one yourself.

Weird the lengths people will go to to "troll" cyclists... rolleyes
I bet you're a barrel of laughs at a dinner party.
hehe

Don't worry, I have no desire to get on a bicycle. I was just teasing.
Besides, it’s cheaper and easier to just jab them in the ribs with an umbrella from your car.

Maxf

7,935 posts

188 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I thought I'd never buy one, and havent yet - but I might think about one next winter for my commute, which will be about 14 miles each way. I'd still use my road bike in the dry, but for those days when it's all a bit too much hassle and the weather isnt great some assistance would be welcomed.

Buster73

3,570 posts

100 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Hired one in Palma last year , had a good ride round the bay and back including going up a steep hill to a castle .

Ended up doing 60km which was a piece of cake. Helped no doubt by the cycle path rather than the roads.

€20 , thought it was great vfm.

Saw loads of folk using them when I was out .


unpc

2,107 posts

160 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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My next MTB is going to be electric. I thought it was a cop out until I rode one then I realised you just go further and harder than you would normally and it's loads more fun. You can attack the ascents as hard as the descents. The price of entry is pretty steep for a good one though.

RobM77

33,242 posts

181 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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yellowjack said:
Hoofy said:
I'd get one to troll Wiggins Wannabes around Richmond Park. Just set it to 1mph faster and watch them try to overtake to prove a point (whatever the point is?). biggrin
Clue: At that level of assistance, your 'leccy' bike will likely run out of juice before some "Wiggins Wannabe's" legs do...

...and that's before you get to the issue of it being illegal to have electrical assistance that operates above <either 15 mph or 20 mph, I can't recall, but it's definitely a lot lower speed than a decent cyclist can maintain around Richmond Park > so you'd need to de-restrict the motor, or build one yourself.

Weird the lengths people will go to to "troll" cyclists... rolleyes
This is something I've never understood. People frequently take the piss out of cyclists for being 'wiggins wannabes'. I was even hounded for months by internet trolls who were telling me I'd 'never be a pro racing driver' That wasn't a surprise to me! biggrinbiggrin Are some people just incapable of understanding the notion of doing sport for fun? Because I go running twice a week, do people think I'm a 'Mo Farah wannabe'?!!

Hoofy

69,443 posts

229 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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RobM77 said:
yellowjack said:
Hoofy said:
I'd get one to troll Wiggins Wannabes around Richmond Park. Just set it to 1mph faster and watch them try to overtake to prove a point (whatever the point is?). biggrin
Clue: At that level of assistance, your 'leccy' bike will likely run out of juice before some "Wiggins Wannabe's" legs do...

...and that's before you get to the issue of it being illegal to have electrical assistance that operates above <either 15 mph or 20 mph, I can't recall, but it's definitely a lot lower speed than a decent cyclist can maintain around Richmond Park > so you'd need to de-restrict the motor, or build one yourself.

Weird the lengths people will go to to "troll" cyclists... rolleyes
This is something I've never understood. People frequently take the piss out of cyclists for being 'wiggins wannabes'. I was even hounded for months by internet trolls who were telling me I'd 'never be a pro racing driver' That wasn't a surprise to me! biggrinbiggrin Are some people just incapable of understanding the notion of doing sport for fun? Because I go running twice a week, do people think I'm a 'Mo Farah wannabe'?!!
Dunno about that. Cycling... fun? biggrin

Edit: well, ok, mountain biking and BMXing is fun.

Edited by Hoofy on Monday 26th March 12:49

Hoofy

69,443 posts

229 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
Hoofy said:
C70R said:
yellowjack said:
Hoofy said:
I'd get one to troll Wiggins Wannabes around Richmond Park. Just set it to 1mph faster and watch them try to overtake to prove a point (whatever the point is?). biggrin
Clue: At that level of assistance, your 'leccy' bike will likely run out of juice before some "Wiggins Wannabe's" legs do...

...and that's before you get to the issue of it being illegal to have electrical assistance that operates above <either 15 mph or 20 mph, I can't recall, but it's definitely a lot lower speed than a decent cyclist can maintain around Richmond Park > so you'd need to de-restrict the motor, or build one yourself.

Weird the lengths people will go to to "troll" cyclists... rolleyes
I bet you're a barrel of laughs at a dinner party.
hehe

Don't worry, I have no desire to get on a bicycle. I was just teasing.
Besides, it’s cheaper and easier to just jab them in the ribs with an umbrella from your car.
Car jousting. A new sport?

Konan

1,387 posts

93 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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P700DEE said:
From the only owner of one I have met , reason for purchase was drink drive ban!!
I used to sell EPCs over 10 years ago, when they still weighed as much as a milk float and did about 5 miles. They were also a lot cheaper, they might still be around as a budget offering.

It was really nice to sell them to people who wanted to continue to ride a bike but where less able to manage without a little assitance.

Sadly, a large part of the market was selling to people on a drink/drive ban that just wanted to sit on them as far as the pub.

Riley Blue

15,430 posts

173 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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wolfie1978 said:
Riley Blue said:
That's exactly the reason I'd get one. I have iffy knees and hips and much as I'd like to go cycling, if they give out when I'm miles from home I'd be stuck, unable to ride or walk back. An electric bike would overcome that risk.
You still have to cycle, the motor won't assist you if the pedals aren't turning
I can still walk when my joints let me down, just not very well and in some discomfort; I would hope that pushing pedals round with assistance would be much less of a strain.

GSE

1,238 posts

186 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Considering getting an e-bike. Last summer I dug my (old) mountain bike out of the shed, and started using it every other day to commute to work and back, about 8 miles each way, mainly off road and through forest paths. I have carried on through the winter and the cold and dark mornings, and I absolutely love it! I've come to really dislike driving now, as the roads, potholes, congestion, parking restrictions and speed cameras all over the place are all so bad now. If I park the car on the driveway on a Thursday, and it doesn't move again until Tuesday, that's a result. An e-bike will make a perfect upgrade.

superlightr

10,217 posts

210 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Riley Blue said:
wolfie1978 said:
Riley Blue said:
That's exactly the reason I'd get one. I have iffy knees and hips and much as I'd like to go cycling, if they give out when I'm miles from home I'd be stuck, unable to ride or walk back. An electric bike would overcome that risk.
You still have to cycle, the motor won't assist you if the pedals aren't turning
I can still walk when my joints let me down, just not very well and in some discomfort; I would hope that pushing pedals round with assistance would be much less of a strain.
some bike shops with an elec MTB will hire them out for a few hrs. Try one. I'm certain you will be grinning from ear to ear and come back on here to say that was one of the most fun things you have done for years ! smile

seastorm

492 posts

149 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I bought a Stromer ST1. It is absolutely awesome. Does 30 mph (with it's unrestricted 500W motor), looks like a regular bike, and flies past any and every road bike. I learned about the speed the hard way last year when I came off with no helmet and spent 6 days in a major trauma ward. Still, managed to get back onto it with helmet a month later. For a commute when you dont want to wear lycra and sweat - its a no brainer. Highly recommend this bike too.

DoubleD

9,569 posts

55 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I would imagine that an electric bike is the perfect companion on a pub crawl

skilly1

2,033 posts

142 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Cupramax said:
Battery was just over £300, ordered direct from one of the biggest ebike battery manufacturers in China on AliExpress, battery arrived in 10 days. Mid drive Motor kit (replaces the existing crank) was around £340 from a UK importer. You need a modicum of mechanical knowledge and a soldering iron, I bought a cheap bike tool kit and it was easy but I am fairly mechanically minded. The kit fitted my Specialized Crosstrail without issue.
Can you link to the one you bought on ali express?

Dog Star

10,655 posts

115 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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seastorm said:
I bought a Stromer ST1. It is absolutely awesome. Does 30 mph (with it's unrestricted 500W motor), looks like a regular bike, and flies past any and every road bike. I learned about the speed the hard way last year when I came off with no helmet and spent 6 days in a major trauma ward. Still, managed to get back onto it with helmet a month later. For a commute when you dont want to wear lycra and sweat - its a no brainer. Highly recommend this bike too.
I'm looking at these now. If I get one I may as well get the off-road illegal 500W jobbie as most of my riding is on trails - and who is to tell it's a 500W motor? Just remove any rating related stickers (and put a 250W replica there if you're so inclined).

Are these things all pedal assist? I've noticed some of these have a throttle arrangement; I have no interest in this as I'd rather have the pedal assist, otherwise I may as well ride a motorbike as there'd be no exercise benefit. Or can you choose?

Dog Star

10,655 posts

115 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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superlightr said:
That's really nice - looks really trick cool
Roll-on cycle to work scheme month (September frown )

Cupramax

8,472 posts

199 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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skilly1 said:
Can you link to the one you bought on ali express?
The exact battery I bought isn’t on there now as its over a year ago, but I bought a Hailong “shark” type similar to the ones Bosch make, only way higher capacity. The company is Unit Pack Power, they make batteries for several of the Ebike companies.

https://m.aliexpress.com/store/storeHome.htm?selle...

Battery similar to this one.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32741299208/327412...

seastorm

492 posts

149 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Dog Star said:
I'm looking at these now. If I get one I may as well get the off-road illegal 500W jobbie as most of my riding is on trails - and who is to tell it's a 500W motor? Just remove any rating related stickers (and put a 250W replica there if you're so inclined).

Are these things all pedal assist? I've noticed some of these have a throttle arrangement; I have no interest in this as I'd rather have the pedal assist, otherwise I may as well ride a motorbike as there'd be no exercise benefit. Or can you choose?
Re Stromer ST! -- It's pedal assist, and different levels of assist. The bike is heavy (25kg) so its a real challenge unless you have it on level 3 or 4 power. You can push a button which gives you all the power without peddling, but its not really a throttle - but does allow you to go 25mph with pedal power. As mentioned, a very good bike.