Introducing the wife to clipless.

Introducing the wife to clipless.

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Sway

19,106 posts

160 months

Sunday 21st March
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Spd-r is ubiquitous for a reason, tension can be dialled right back as per regular spd.

Look is similar.

One thing to strongly consider - road clipless systems massively inhibit things like walking compared to spd where there's a whole spectrum of soles/shoes to choose from.

Louis Balfour

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21,264 posts

188 months

Sunday 21st March
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Sway said:
Spd-r is ubiquitous for a reason, tension can be dialled right back as per regular spd.

Look is similar.

One thing to strongly consider - road clipless systems massively inhibit things like walking compared to spd where there's a whole spectrum of soles/shoes to choose from.
We've discussed the issue with walking. She doesn't think it will be an issue.

Is SPD-R the most common road system?

Get Karter

1,906 posts

167 months

Sunday 21st March
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Louis Balfour said:
Which one(s) should she look at for leisure use? Ease of getting in and out is important, but it needs to be a system she won’t outgrow.
For leisure use I’d avoid road clipless. SPDs are just as good for anything other than serious competition and are 100% better for anything that involves being off the bike.

Sway

19,106 posts

160 months

Sunday 21st March
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To be fair, higher end shoes with spd pedals will be just as hot on road as virtually anything spdr...

Plus, much easier off the bike.

Louis Balfour

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21,264 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Okay, Lady Balfour has been using my spare SPDs and her spin shoes for the past couple of weeks. When I first held her bike and let her clip in she was sure that she was going to die in a ditch, unable to unclip. There were, in fact, some minor histrionics.

On return from her first ride - "THAT WAS BRILLIANT! It's SSSSO MUCH BETTER!".

So I said that I would buy her some new shoes and SPDs for Easter instead of a chocolate egg(!). I explained the differences between off-road and road systems and tried to emphasise the benefits of SPD. So after much consideration, "I shall have road pedals" came the decision.

Today I have fitted her new carbon SPD-SLs and cleats and again held her bike whilst she clipped in. She immediately decided that they are far tighter and harder to use. "Why didn't you buy me SPDs?????" she snapped....

Next year it's something from Hotel Chocolat.



sociopath

1,601 posts

32 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Louis Balfour said:
Okay, it would appear that Lady Balfour intends to do mostly road cycling going forwards and favours a road specific clipless system.

Being an ex MTBer I am out of my depth with road systems.

Which one(s) should she look at for leisure use? Ease of getting in and out is important, but it needs to be a system she won’t outgrow.
If you want road specific then spd-sl or look Leo.

Anything else is swapping one small platform (spd) for another (eg speed play)

I've used both but now have Look as I have power meter pedals (favero assioma) that need the look cleat.

I've never found much difference between them tbh

Mastodon2

13,394 posts

131 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Louis Balfour said:
Today I have fitted her new carbon SPD-SLs and cleats and again held her bike whilst she clipped in. She immediately decided that they are far tighter and harder to use. "Why didn't you buy me SPDs?????" she snapped....
Just dial the tension adjustment screws right back so the release tension on the cleat is really low and she won't have any complaints.

Louis Balfour

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21,264 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Mastodon2 said:
Louis Balfour said:
Today I have fitted her new carbon SPD-SLs and cleats and again held her bike whilst she clipped in. She immediately decided that they are far tighter and harder to use. "Why didn't you buy me SPDs?????" she snapped....
Just dial the tension adjustment screws right back so the release tension on the cleat is really low and she won't have any complaints.
I've done that. They are hard against the stops.

To be fair, the SPDs I have lent her are looser on the loosest setting than the SLs are.

Sway

19,106 posts

160 months

Tuesday 6th April
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As mentioned, back them off.

However, I do believe they are slightly higher resistance at the lowest level compared to the same level for spds.

She should be fine with a day's practice. The crash always comes a few rides in, once it feels second nature and she forgets...

Louis Balfour

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21,264 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Sway said:
As mentioned, back them off.

As mentioned, I've backed them off as far as they will go. wink

Sway

19,106 posts

160 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Louis Balfour said:
Sway said:
As mentioned, back them off.

As mentioned, I've backed them off as far as they will go. wink
Missed that! Good luck!

Louis Balfour

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21,264 posts

188 months

Saturday 10th April
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....and after carefully setting up the SPD-SLs and waving Lady Balfour goodbye, I was barely back in the house before she stormed in sobbing. Can't do it, nearly killed by lorry, your fault, should have bought me SPDs...

Think I will use the now surplus SPD-SLs as an excuse to buy myself a new road bike. I mean, you can't have spare road pedals lying about can you.

The shoes were the last pair of Northwave Core in a 37 in the country, so hopefully I will recover my money if I re-sell them.

Louis Balfour

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21,264 posts

188 months

Saturday 10th April
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If I am going to now buy her SPDs, are Shimano M520s the way to go?

johnpsanderson

248 posts

166 months

Saturday 10th April
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Can’t believe (in proper PH style) the first recommendation wasn’t straight to Speedplays...

Bacon Is Proof

4,714 posts

197 months

Sunday 11th April
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johnpsanderson said:
Can’t believe (in proper PH style) the first recommendation wasn’t straight to Speedplays...
This isn't the council thread.

I've still got working Onzas...

Fastpedeller

3,346 posts

112 months

Sunday 11th April
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Louis Balfour said:
If I am going to now buy her SPDs, are Shimano M520s the way to go?
Best pedal out there - A real design icon!